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Post Post #7625 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 7620, Firebringer wrote:dandellion and deacon have been very good resisting massive amount of pressure to break up their internal block. i wonder if this is a psychological case of both just seeing everyone trying to undermine their block so they go "no this is a solid block" or if it means scum in it don't have reason to push against this (and dandellion is the one that has had least paranoia about the group so i would point it to them) or if it means both are actually town and we are doing scum bidding by trying to break it up
if it's any consolation i've broken down about dandelion 3 or 4 times on discord to ffery and she keeps setting me back straight on it
their role is very +scum and it's the biggest source of paranoia for me
at the same time if you read purple room post game on N1 it's going to be very very apparently why i townread the slot over everything else and i probably need to paraphrase what happened there for anyone to empathize w/ that
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Post Post #7626 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 7623, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7619, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 7617, skitter30 wrote:idk. he's either outrageously wrong as town or scum
the difference between the two is something you just never seem that interested in discerning

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no, i'm definitely interested. i just don't have what i need to make an assessment and i get rebuffed when i asked. it's been like, what, three weeks since we started this whole rigamarole and you rebuff me each time so i'm not really expecting anything different but like if i keep asking and you refuse to answer like i'm not really sure what you want from me.

i need to understand your/his slots reads to read you. you're actively witholding that.
it's hard for me to form reads when i can't see thought processes and motivtions.

i can pull out probably dozens of examples of me trying to understand your reads and getting rebuffed.
can you show me an instance of me rebuffing you on something because i'm legitimately trying to empathize here

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Post Post #7627 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 7621, skitter30 wrote:but you're actively witholding the information i need to come down on either side so like
what do you need to know
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that you don't know

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Post Post #7628 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

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Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh
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Post Post #7629 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 7624, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: skitter
i agree with skitter; dandellion push looks funky as fuck and i am not sure if its a buss or just seeing an opportunity
It's basically Xenoblade 2 the second.

You were there. What did you think about his play then?
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Post Post #7630 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 pm

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like at eod 2 cabd was definitely townreading me (post annie case)
he makes a post at some point i think sunday night recounting his reads from the hood and his read on me is osmething like 'for every psot she makes that i like there's one i don't', which is, well, ambiguous
then deacon votes me. since they don't do anything without cabd's approval that means he changed his mind at some point

that's his recent progression on me
i'm not a mindreader. there's nothing connecting the dots there.
i have no way of gauging if this is real or not because the data is actively being withheld

so like how on earth am i supposed to know. i don't know what he's doing or why or what's prompting it. like maybe he's just making shit up and is scum and saw an oppurtunistic push. maybe he actually has reasons and it makes a lot of sense

i just don't know, because i can't tell what he's doing and why

pedit @bork. why are you scurmeading me. like if you can actually give a few sentences with reasons that would be helpful
even better, why is cabd scumreading me, and how did the progression change, and what actually prompted it, and what was the post number in thread that timestamp wise lines up to what he was saying in the hood
that's a big ask which i don't expect to be answered but that's what i need to actually understand progressions and i'm using that to illustrate the point that by not solving here you're preventing me from being able to read people the way i usually do
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Post Post #7631 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 pm

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In post 7628, midwaybear wrote:Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh
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Post Post #7632 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:59 pm

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FB, cabd is town and skitter is scum tho
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Post Post #7633 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:since they don't do anything without cabd's approval that means he changed his mind at some point
Oh piss off, that very much isn't the case.
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Post Post #7634 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:00 pm

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LLD, maybe Dandelion
skitter could be scum, but I’m weak when the pushing gets to this point.
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Post Post #7635 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 7625, Deacon Blues wrote:their role is very +scum and it's the biggest source of paranoia for me
also things like this is what's annoying. you know what his role is. this is apparently a relevant data point. i do not.
like actively playing in the dark is frustrating because i don't know why it's being played this way and you're making silly decisions off of it
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Post Post #7636 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 7629, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 7624, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: skitter
i agree with skitter; dandellion push looks funky as fuck and i am not sure if its a buss or just seeing an opportunity
It's basically Xenoblade 2 the second.

You were there. What did you think about his play then?
this isn't xenoblade?
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Post Post #7637 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 7626, Deacon Blues wrote:can you show me an instance of me rebuffing you on something because i'm legitimately trying to empathize here

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you was a collective you for you/ffery/bork
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Post Post #7638 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:since they don't do anything without cabd's approval that means he changed his mind at some point
yes if there's anything i give a fuck about it's cabd's approval lol

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Post Post #7639 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 7635, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7625, Deacon Blues wrote:their role is very +scum and it's the biggest source of paranoia for me
also things like this is what's annoying. you know what his role is. this is apparently a relevant data point. i do not.
like actively playing in the dark is frustrating because i don't know why it's being played this way and you're making silly decisions off of it
Your lack of paying attention to data in the thread does not their fault or my fault make.

My role has already been talked about. Back on day two. A LOT.
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Post Post #7640 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:01 pm

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hostilities are rising. Firebringer doesn't approve.
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Post Post #7641 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 7633, Dandelion Wine wrote:
In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:since they don't do anything without cabd's approval that means he changed his mind at some point
Oh piss off, that very much isn't the case.
i'm not sure if you're objecting to 'deacon doesn't seem to do anything without running it by cabd' or 'cabd changed his mind at some point'
but either way from my pov that's what it looks like to me
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Post Post #7642 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 7628, midwaybear wrote:Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh
idk ceph has been saying he wants to get him and then cabd comes in with this so ???

firebringer made a good point about him, the hydras suspect him last i checked or at least were talking about dunnstral's read, idk if that changed with lld defending him. i was shaky but i did agree with what firebringer said
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Post Post #7643 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 7640, Firebringer wrote:hostilities are rising. Firebringer doesn't approve.
i'm not gonna get hostile
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Post Post #7644 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:then deacon votes me.
since they don't do anything without cabd's approval
that means he changed his mind at some point
This is false. particularly if you're thinking ANYTHING we've done in the last 24-36 hours was with pre-approval.
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Post Post #7645 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 7634, midwaybear wrote:LLD, maybe Dandelion
skitter could be scum, but I’m weak when the pushing gets to this point.
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btw, is this accurate? you don't have to fullclaim. i would've sworn knowing you you'd end up being a full vt
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Post Post #7646 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 7640, Firebringer wrote:hostilities are rising. Firebringer doesn't approve.
at no point is this going to escalate into personal attacks on my end, you've got my utter word on that. this is important to shake out to me

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Post Post #7647 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 7642, petapan wrote:
In post 7628, midwaybear wrote:Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh
idk ceph has been saying he wants to get him and then cabd comes in with this so ???

firebringer made a good point about him, the hydras suspect him last i checked or at least were talking about dunnstral's read, idk if that changed with lld defending him. i was shaky but i did agree with what firebringer said
about pooky buddying/manipulating everyone?
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Post Post #7648 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:04 pm

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In post 7635, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7625, Deacon Blues wrote:their role is very +scum and it's the biggest source of paranoia for me
also things like this is what's annoying. you know what his role is. this is apparently a relevant data point. i do not.
like actively playing in the dark is frustrating because i don't know why it's being played this way and you're making silly decisions off of it
You know everything about their role that we do. They are a purple room neighborhood gatecrasher.
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Post Post #7649 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:04 pm

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lets see if we can shake a wagon
UNVOTE: pooky
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