BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[DkKoba]

gypyx say something

[DkKoba]

gypyx ........ i had this like hella tinfoil abt scum having ability to kill via being a commuter and leading kill while commuting.

but now we know that its samantha who had to lead kills here.

[DkKoba]

and gypyx was already clear from being scum with samantha via a blitz test anyways

[DkKoba]

is there a possibility of something of the reverse of an enabler?

[DkKoba]

gypyx ........ i had this like hella tinfoil abt scum having ability to kill via being a commuter and leading kill while commuting.

but now we know that its samantha who had to lead kills here.

huh... i don't get really what's your point there, could you develop?

scum commutes -> leads nightkill -> can kill commuting targets

[DkKoba]

at this point if u wanna unironically vote me i aint got the spoons.
Take that L

[DkKoba]

Gypyx I'm not really around right now but during D5 I'd like to hash out the possibility of Dk-scum; I'm like 85% on it being Ydrasse atm but I'm not willing to see myself get eliminated without being more sure than that. If we decide Dk is just town then I guess I'll follow the 'autowin' if that's what you and Dk really want. It makes me uncomfortable but I'm not the one holding power here.

When klick is the mechanically optimal lim but they're also scum <3.<3

[DkKoba]

klick hardclaiming scum here, a bold strat.

[DkKoba]

klick is doing exactly how scum klick plays it out here. Once town realizes its optimal with 2 commuters still alive to safety lim him into ydrasse and ydrasse is voting him alongside a commuter, its over. He has to push the "koba is scum" line to get gypyx to flip over to me and maybe ydrasse.

[DkKoba]

please explain how my actions thus far make me scum ->

[DkKoba]

Day 5 is pretty much proof of me being town.

[DkKoba]

me and ydrasse rn

[DkKoba]

Fack it didnt work

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

weeeeeeeee

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

K now im not willing to gamble LMAO

[DkKoba]

im not ready to clear klick

[DkKoba]

klick u clear me

[DkKoba]

no

[DkKoba]

bruh. scum me has no hesitation in pushing ydrasse lim here and just winning

[DkKoba]

relax

[DkKoba]

plus u confirmed that samanthas role didnt let her kill within another universe, no?

so it HAS to be likely klick or ydrasse lying abt their role rather than me since my slot claimed it d1.

[DkKoba]

im rereading

[DkKoba]

ok i reread

klick is scum

unless someone wants to give me a good argument on why ari is town,i cba to reread that section of the game.

VOTE: klick

theres a subtle slip that sent me over the edge towards this slot.

[DkKoba]

lol crazy i had the same conclusion earlier on closer inspection LFMAO

imma trust that my reasoning ending up at the same conclusion twice is accurate

[DkKoba]

klick called the setup townsided. perspective wise, we're seeing this shit as pretty scumsided considering 4 scum + scum seeming to be able to bypass stuff.

you yourself said theres a scum left in VT claims gypyx.

[DkKoba]

Okay, so first things of note for Bell

I like their intro to the game. They feel light and their interactions with neither Tsunami nor Terror seem like buddy interactions.

Looking at it in Iso their Tsunami vote actually makes a lot of sense and alleviates a lot of my worries about the slot.

I also really like their pushes on Vax.
And the slot feels n awful lot like they did in Geriatric Trio II which I modded.

I think it's safe to tuck this slot away as town for now.

Inb4 "That was too fast"
Yeah I know, it's based on vote positioning and post composition.
I get a townread.
I'm moving on.

i mean also when u see shit like this

[DkKoba]

Ydrasse who are your three top town right now overall?

something like you / gamma / then, like, pelican/endless/hbb boxing for third place

most of my reads right now trend more into null/scummy territory than they do towny ones

also ty i found at least 1 towngame where 72 does do that. does he not do it at all in his scumgames?

is it a trust tell if 72 doesn't invoke it?

if it's one regardless i'll drop it

stuff like this also makes me townread ydrasse..

[DkKoba]

gypyx lets do like a cool exercise i learned from another player i play with on epicmafia.

we take each suspect, and we look at:

reasons to townread them

reasons to scumread them

then compare and we can probably get a good idea there.

[DkKoba]

thats fine. i think theres like good logic for either slot but rn im like sorta zoned in on klick. cruised by last day just parking vote on sam.

its just tough tho lol like why switch back to sam?

well ppl were not biting on ydrasse and i was being chaotic so maybe they were too scared to keep the vote there and have it be incriminating??

why did sam self vote? - thinking that scum already was bussing her from the start


why does sam and ydrasse start by 1v1ing and guaranteeing a scum lim from ydrasse!scum pov?

like these are all important questions and i think we figure it out based on noraa/bell interaction on earlier days.

[DkKoba]

as well as sam interactions on days prior^

[DkKoba]

I'll see what I think after doing a thorough analysis surrounding flipped scum slots + the 2 suspects. Gonna look at vote counts and interactions mainly surrounding them.

[DkKoba]

with 4 scum yes

[DkKoba]

PR wifom is the latest rage in normals nowadays

[DkKoba]

well if thats the case then limming klick has no consequences

[DkKoba]

i think we've established that makes 0 sense at this point........

[DkKoba]

k

[DkKoba]

also fits with koba not having commuted N4

stop

[DkKoba]

literally stop wasting time trying to scumcase me bc it won't work.

[DkKoba]

k fine ill carry like me pointing out obvscum on d5 and then quickhammering them so no one is able to change their mind.

[DkKoba]

Keep pretending that's not within your scumrange lol

So Gypyx you thin Dk could be some sort of multitasking commuter who kills commuters when they commute? Feels like a stretch tbh.

whats my scumrange?

explain how its within atm.

[DkKoba]

i.e. how did u reach that conclusion here?

[DkKoba]

Koba I've seen you do this thing in several games where you do something *out there* and then insist it must make you town without really giving a proper clear explanation of why it makes you town for the others playing the game.

I have no issues seeing your play yesterday from a scum perspective. 'oh Sam is scumread and I'm not, let's powerbus and carry this in MyLo for the most secure chance at a win'.
Burden of proof is on you to explain why you're obvtown.

ur so obviousssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[DkKoba]

we have played like twice and the only time when i was scum i wasn't even playing normal scum wincon.

[DkKoba]

unless u think like my goal is to just troll the whole game, i would have won by now.

[DkKoba]

idk mate! ari was off wagon d1 and ydrasse was voting for samantha who was other scum. if ydrasse is scum here why did they try to force the SvS? and onto a PR that is useful assuming setup spec?

[DkKoba]

ok so i reread Pelican Brief's role.

Inverted modifier lets scum kill.

thats what the last scum has.

[DkKoba]

has nothing to do with magical or whatever

[DkKoba]

i think ydrasse towntold pretty hard on d5

[DkKoba]

and sam and you were theatering

[DkKoba]

when she voted you at daystart

[DkKoba]

except u havent towntold at all this whole game

[DkKoba]

im listening

[DkKoba]

those match my observations

[DkKoba]

I'll also need a cat fact from you

[DkKoba]

everyone knows mafia doesnt know anything about cats

[DkKoba]

im unsubscribing

[DkKoba]

ok im convinced. ydrasse town

[DkKoba]

we stalemating yeehaw

[DkKoba]

ill take a draw over a loss ngl

[DkKoba]

if im wrong i blame the cats

[DkKoba]

gypyx promise u sheep me if i die btw

[DkKoba]

the answer is no

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

beep

[DkKoba]

VOTE: klick

[DkKoba]

yall stop arguing with eachother pls appeal to the council

[DkKoba]

anyways in about 1 hour once i feel like it im going to start going thru posts

[DkKoba]

THE COUNCIL OF COMMUTING IS NOW COMPILING THEIR CASE

[DkKoba]

please submit your appeals

[DkKoba]

:

oh no that is scary........

[DkKoba]

are u not town

[DkKoba]

WHEREWITHAL?????????

[DkKoba]

Subject: Micro 969: Nomination Mafia 8p (Game over)

Lack of wherewithal

[DkKoba]

ok i will review the evidence set forth.....

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

koba, do you think ~4 minutes is enough for scum!ydra to come up with the idea of a fake scumslip?

i mean i think ydrasse is a seasoned mafia player and is used to joke claiming

[DkKoba]

noo my image broke

[DkKoba]

i dont think its alignment indicative..

[DkKoba]

koba, do you think ~4 minutes is enough for scum!ydra to come up with the idea of a fake scumslip?

i mean i think ydrasse is a seasoned mafia player and is used to joke claiming

yeah but like, it's different from joke claiming there

it was .. just a joke. i reread it. its not alignment indicative .

[DkKoba]

ur not gonna convince me based off that sorry

[DkKoba]

im half tempted to hammer ydrasse for independent reasons

but i think klick's case is weak LOL

[DkKoba]

just the way votes were tossed around on d5

[DkKoba]

do u think scum!klick with scum!sam would be aware i wanted to quickhammer ydrasse as soon as shes at L-1. cause that was my plan.

[DkKoba]

or perhaps they didnt want to clear me?

[DkKoba]

when did ydrasse claim

[DkKoba]

4 scum with strong possibility of hitting an untargetable person..

[DkKoba]

hm

[DkKoba]

bleh VOTE: ydrasse
sorry if wrong

[DkKoba]

did we lose

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE: why fake the reaction

[DkKoba]

Day 6

Vote Count 6.05

Klick [2]:

Ydrasse, Dkkoba

Ydrasse [1]:

Klick

Not Voting [1]:

Gypyx,

With

4

alive, it takes

3

to

Fade Into Obscurity

.

Day 6

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(expired on 2021-01-05 20:00:00)

on

January 5th.

Mod Notes

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[DkKoba]

*squint*

[DkKoba]

i mean we can let it go to night lol

[DkKoba]

not like they can kill either of us

[DkKoba]

i mean we did a good job fast nighting last night so

[DkKoba]

Or you could just vote Ydrasse.
What about my case is unconvincing Dk
I think it should be mildly scummy that she won't respond to it but also isn't particularly showing upset-ness at it

you're pushing stuff I find NAI(because it is)

there's other things i'm looking at that make me think "ok occams razor means ydrasse scum"

im a more gamestate oriented reader-> i look at what the overall game seems to be pushing and evaluate from there

[DkKoba]

ok so clearly theres a way to bypass commuting still in play. i would as scum here simply no kill -> killing implies the ability still exists.

[DkKoba]

i commuted alongside gypyx

[DkKoba]

VOTE: ydrasse i respect the dead's reads. i just had to be sure on this.

if im wrong sorry. i was just nervous and trying to figure it all out.

confirming there is a role with an ability to bypass commuters still alive kinda nailed it in here for me.

i didnt do a thorough reanalysis, but again sorry if wrong.

[DkKoba]

im free

[DkKoba]

pls dont troll ydrasse are u town or no

[DkKoba]

ah my anxiety lol

[DkKoba]

pagetop so boon cant have it

[DkKoba]

if no one died i was gonna be more 50/50 ngl

[DkKoba]

the whole panic votes going everywhere fiasco on d5 was actually a great way for the game to get solved

[DkKoba]

also sorry klick i was mainly trusting ydrasse/sam was the true universe but i like to take advantage of the time i have to explore all my tinfoils fully.

[DkKoba]

i also was doing an analysis of WIM vs how i presented my reads in the 2 of you

[DkKoba]

are u trolling me

[DkKoba]

. dont troll in lylo twilight lol pls

[DkKoba]

k

[DkKoba]

i dont like trolling once game is confirmed hammered nothing can change etc. cause it doesnt matter except for that small time period before it gets flipped

[DkKoba]

VOTE: ydrasse i respect the dead's reads. i just had to be sure on this.

if im wrong sorry. i was just nervous and trying to figure it all out.

confirming there is a role with an ability to bypass commuters still alive kinda nailed it in here for me.

i didnt do a thorough reanalysis, but again sorry if wrong.

[DkKoba]

tfw inverted mafia commuter enabler...

[DkKoba]

we will see

[DkKoba]

ya the reason i didnt care about the emotions thing cause i knew it would be genuine regardless of alignment in this situation.. i was like..

[DkKoba]

as soon as i marked down samantha as scum enchantress i was like no more boon bank roles ok

[DkKoba]

anyways nice to be the banned user slot that hammers to win even tho i should have on d6, something just was nagging me to make sure 100% (impatience has lost me many a mafia game back when i played chat mafia so)

[DkKoba]

i s2g the wifom on some of these roles

[DkKoba]

Subject: BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [SPECTATOR]

Ydrasse has Dkkoba pocketed. I think this is a scum victory.

fool.. it was the other way around >:)

[DkKoba]

so who was HUB because I still am trying to figure out why they said I would not want to play with them knowing who they are

[DkKoba]

Happy Birthday, all

oh hey hectic you spectated that game?

hectic was in the game as HBB

[DkKoba]

forgot to say, but good setup.

although the wifom was killing me

[DkKoba]

so who was HUB because I still am trying to figure out why they said I would not want to play with them knowing who they are

nvm i figured it out

[DkKoba]

also, what was the reasoning behind ydrasse's fake scum slip at the koba fake-hammer?

yeah that really locked in the ydrasse vs sam vote LOL

[DkKoba]

im looking at a gyp/samantha/ydrasse pile for my poe rn. ill prob reread later .

from my brief notes pt(which i used more for venting than anything)

[DkKoba]

again sorry for those spectating waiting so long, I stalled on purpose as to not rush and make the wrong decision. i knew that gypyx was never voting klick. i left my vote on klick for that reason, just to prove it and bait a kill .. probably a bad idea in retrospect but the gamble paid off

[DkKoba]

policy all quickhammers I say

[DkKoba]

Guys can we

NOT

try to out alts?

Alt hunting in private is whatever, but doing to publicly is extremely rude unless the slot asked to be figured out.
Especially when it came out that they probably have a rough history with one of the players in the game.

Just. Stop.

alt hunted votato in public, no regrets.

but fr i already know who it is based on PoE and im choosing not to out it lol

[DkKoba]

well part of being informed is actually knowing ur partners lol