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Post Post #4700 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:01 pm

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In post 4699, Gypyx wrote:
In post 4671, Gypyx wrote:koba, do you think ~4 minutes is enough for scum!ydra to come up with the idea of a fake scumslip?
i mean i think ydrasse is a seasoned mafia player and is used to joke claiming
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Post Post #4701 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:02 pm

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noo my image broke
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Post Post #4702 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:08 pm

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In post 4701, DkKoba wrote:
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Post Post #4703 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:09 pm

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In post 4700, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4699, Gypyx wrote:
In post 4671, Gypyx wrote:koba, do you think ~4 minutes is enough for scum!ydra to come up with the idea of a fake scumslip?
i mean i think ydrasse is a seasoned mafia player and is used to joke claiming
yeah but like, it's different from joke claiming there
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Post Post #4704 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 pm

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Yeah I'm gonna stop engaging with Ydrasse here, mostly because being told I'm gaslighting by someone who is definitely scum is not fun and also not necessary or helpful. I'm not really interested in playing emotional games with this.

Just let me know what you want from me. I'm definitely confbiased at this point because the arguments for Ydrasse!scum look a lot more clear to me now.
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Post Post #4705 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 pm

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i dont think its alignment indicative..
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Post Post #4706 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 pm

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Not gonna be around much today though, got a big paper due in tomorrow.
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Post Post #4707 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:17 pm

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In post 4703, Gypyx wrote:
In post 4700, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4699, Gypyx wrote:
In post 4671, Gypyx wrote:koba, do you think ~4 minutes is enough for scum!ydra to come up with the idea of a fake scumslip?
i mean i think ydrasse is a seasoned mafia player and is used to joke claiming
yeah but like, it's different from joke claiming there
it was .. just a joke. i reread it. its not alignment indicative .
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Post Post #4708 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:26 pm

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What about the bit after the joke where she reacts to the joke over and over
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Post Post #4709 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:47 pm

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ur not gonna convince me based off that sorry
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Post Post #4710 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:51 pm

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Hmm actually I feel like this is a valid point to talk about. Might be worth for Gypyx to hear.
Ydrasse's upset reaction to her joke is definitely fake and when we're both around Gypyx I'd be interested in parsing through that with you.
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Post Post #4711 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:09 pm

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Post Post #4712 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:10 pm

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doing stuff aside from mafia but i'm here
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Post Post #4713 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:03 pm

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Me too. Big essay due tomorrow and whatnot. So not really around live but oh well.
In post 3901, Ydrasse wrote:i’m

i think i’m just gonna check out of the thread or something and just ask you don’t hhammer me or whatever
In post 3923, Ydrasse wrote:i was just joking

sorry
These posts are 8 minutes apart. She didn't check out of the thread. That would be sensible to do in that situation as town. Instead, she's scum and wants to continue this until it gets her some towncred.
In post 3970, Klick wrote:
In post 3967, samantha97 wrote:
In post 3961, DkKoba wrote:sam claim ur target now.
I mean it'd be based on the result of the lynch, but if you wanna collectively pick a target for me instead that's fine
Assuming we fade Ydrasse!scum, since that's the most likely outcome that isn't fading you
In post 3971, Ydrasse wrote:please dont
Her focus is entirely on not getting voted.
(Sam never did claim a target btw, and I actively tried to get her to in this post)
In post 4028, Ydrasse wrote:gypyx / koba

said i lockedtowned koba but after the past few pages idk, havent paid attention to who posting clears a quickhammer on who to know if this is null
This doesn't actually line up with her thoughts later on - she goes into today saying it's likely me.
In post 4107, Ydrasse wrote:my motivation to play this game is absolutely fucked. it sucks that everyone was so willing to jump on me for it and like, ohhh this is the smoking gun we got her and
it sucks that people think how i feel about it is fake
and it sucks that if i get elimmed the games probably over and it’s just because of. this
Here's the particularly sus part.
Her primary motivation here is to make people feel hesitant, or possibly bad, about reading her reaction as fake.
This is actively manipulative in a way that only happens if she's scum here I believe.
In post 4111, Ydrasse wrote:i’ve already stated who i think it is
(sam/Gypyx)
Again, this changes immediately upon D5 when it's clear me and Koba don't suspect Gypyx.
In post 4123, Ydrasse wrote:which like, idk, maybe it’s bc people are also saying my feelings are fake which i don’t take kindly to
In post 4125, Ydrasse wrote:i mean i guess but. idk. it sucks mainly that no one is willing to think about it from my perspective
'ah damn it's not working. Let's try harder to get people looking at this from a town!Ydrasse perspective'
She also isn't reacting how I'd expect if she was actually upset about people denying her real feelings. The reaction is too soft, like she doesn't really want to be toxic about it because she knows it's a lie but still wants the towncred.
In post 4143, Ydrasse wrote:beyond the emotional shittiness of this situation, uh, can anyone quote/explain for me why they think that i would feel the need to manufacture a “slip” like that? like, how is twilight trolling AI in this case when, in a world where samantha/i are scum together, i’ve done a lot already to bus? at that point it’s just over the top dramatics from a scum!me that look like, so obvious and bombastic after the fact
At this point she's arguing against specifically a Ydrasse/Sam scumteam.
In post 4151, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t take well to people saying what i’m feeling is fake like, the reason i was getting more upset was because no one was believing me that i was just trying to have fun and
it compounded when i realized that it could end with a loss for us all
This is intended to remind you of the fact that she did this because she's town and was worried about you losing. And also to remind you that if you're wrong, you might immediately lose. This one is particularly clearly manipulative to me
In post 4153, Ydrasse wrote:i should probably drop the point at this point because everyone’s going to think what they will i guess
No, town!Ydrasse would double down here. Scum!Ydrasse again doesn't want to get too toxic.


Overall there are some clear signs of conscious manipulation. She at the very least has getting towncred from her reaction actively on her mind while she's AtEing. And if you accept that as a premise, then it's a lot easier to see her as scum faking it than town faking it. She avoids going over the top after the initial reaction because she knows she's lying and doesn't want to be too toxic.
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Post Post #4714 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:09 pm

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good points... i'll try to re-read ydra's D1 but i think my mind is set
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Post Post #4715 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:57 pm

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im half tempted to hammer ydrasse for independent reasons

but i think klick's case is weak LOL
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Post Post #4716 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:20 pm

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what are those reasons
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Post Post #4717 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:25 pm

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just the way votes were tossed around on d5
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Post Post #4718 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:25 pm

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do u think scum!klick with scum!sam would be aware i wanted to quickhammer ydrasse as soon as shes at L-1. cause that was my plan.
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Post Post #4719 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:25 pm

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or perhaps they didnt want to clear me?
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Post Post #4720 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:32 pm

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i'm not sure he would be aware of that, like, you seemed pretty tunnuled on sam iirc

maybe they just didn't want to clear you yeah
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Post Post #4721 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:26 am

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Day 6
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Post Post #4722 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:27 am

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when did ydrasse claim
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Post Post #4723 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:54 am

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Post Post #4724 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:55 am

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i am not feeling it wrt engaging the case about my emotions and i don’t think that’s a discussion i want to get into
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