PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

MURDERCAT · Post Post #5825 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:35 am

Yeah they made a high risk play after a bad break and we're in a tough spot.

I'm just glad I don't have to eat a hat

Alisae · Post Post #5826 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:35 am

In post 5823, Ircher wrote:I think this deserves a game of the year nom. It was really fun all-around and I didn't see any issues. It still qualifies for this past year, right?

I don't remember what we decided on this or not in the SSC tbh.
Go nom it and we'll decide later.
I feel like it would be weird to have this game be apart of the 2021 scummies season when this is an 2020 game and we gave a week extra of time to let people get last minute noms in and to let games that are almost finished finished.

Alisae · Post Post #5827 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:37 am

this game 100% deserves a game of teh year award tho
some of the best play on site came from this game tbh, both some good play from town and good play from scum.
Gloria had a really good D3 its just a shame that the masonry really wasn't buying it (tho I think they almost were)

Noraa · Post Post #5828 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:37 am

I got pretty drowned out really fast. The # pages and walls were way overwhelming.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #5829 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:38 am

I think the DEB crumbs coming after the Bell case by Pichu was a mistake in retrospect, it might have been better to just not crumb. Plus there wasn't a way to explain how Bell claimed detective if DEB was a real detective. Unless the plan was to make Bell look better by flipping DEB instead? But hectic had a guilty right? So unfortunately that idea would have been dead on arrival

MURDERCAT · Post Post #5830 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:39 am

Does death curse have a game of the year nom?

Both have been excellent and I'm glad to be a part of them

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #5831 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:40 am

Yeah, Supersaint Enabler claim and the slot I was trying to guilty just kinda ended it.

And full vig was annoying.

I gave 2 goons because I expected game to be balanced around it.

Supersaint, Ascetic Multitasking Alien were our PR's

Supersaint Enabler made Supersaint incredibly pointless. I almost went Vengeful, but again, I was trying to stay low power.

Noraa · Post Post #5832 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:41 am

In post 5830, MURDERCAT wrote:Does death curse have a game of the year nom?

I nommed town for moment of brilliance and there was one Kodak nom for the bell vig shot. No ones done a game of the year for dc tho.

Alisae · Post Post #5833 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:41 am

btw so I have a draft typed up of basically me explaining my thought processes when it comes to teh game and how I approach it
that's coming to MD soon.

pedit: The supersaint enabler felt suuuuuuuuper overkill tbh.

Noraa · Post Post #5834 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:42 am

town had 7 prs and an enabler to one of our prs.

Noraa · Post Post #5835 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:42 am

and we had 2 prs...

Alisae · Post Post #5836 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:44 am

multitasking ascetic alien is strong
so is the supersaint

but why does town need an informed multitasking player
why does town need a supersaint enabler

Spiffeh · Post Post #5837 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:45 am

Vanilla cop also could have really fucked us over if we didn't kill pichu N2

I think limiting the vig to 1/2 shot and removing supersaint enabler would have made it more balanced

(I don't think this is the reason we lost at all though)

Noraa · Post Post #5838 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:46 am

doc could've made 2 extra conftown O_O

Blade Dancer · Post Post #5839 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:46 am

About half the scumteam were prs, so I made half the town PRs. Almost all the PRs were mislynchable. The flips revealed that any type of ridiculousness would not be ccable.

The town PRs were ridiculously weak or usually negative utility. The vig only hit town, as designed.

Town blocked very heavily here, which was a huge factor.

More notes on my setup design are in the mod PT.

Alisae · Post Post #5840 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:46 am

there was a roaming doctor too holy shit

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5841 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 am

Mastina/Ircher were just insanely overwhelmingly imba.

Esp Mastina :3

Noraa · Post Post #5842 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 am

In post 5840, Alisae wrote:there was a roaming doctor too holy shit

ydra shot him day 1 which is why we forgot about them <.<

Noraa · Post Post #5843 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 am

In post 5841, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mastina/Ircher were just insanely overwhelmingly imba.

Esp Mastina :3

walls are scary

Alisae · Post Post #5844 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 am

ya mastina was in her townmeta

idunno i just got super paranoid that she was scum with the goal of trying to pocket me and norwee because I see that being super realistic coming from scum!mastina especially given how she built it up

Noraa · Post Post #5845 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:48 am

We needed toog to die today for a possible win.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #5846 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:48 am

Did hectic have a guilty?

Noraa · Post Post #5847 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:48 am

In post 5846, MURDERCAT wrote:Did hectic have a guilty?

probably on bell

ISO · Post Post #5848 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:48 am

I think Supersaint is enough of a surprise that town should have some warning about it. As far as informed townie goes, that role could've definitely been dropped and the setup would be roughly the same.

I do think the setup is overall balanced to a reasonable standard. 13-4 requires quite a bit of town power (as opposed to 10-3), and scum did have some powerful tools. Maybe a full vig is a little bit too much; as Blade Dancer points out, the other roles, especially the cop, were quite gated.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #5849 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:49 am

In post 5837, Spiffeh wrote:Vanilla cop also could have really fucked us over if we didn't kill pichu N2

I think limiting the vig to 1/2 shot and removing supersaint enabler would have made it more balanced

(I don't think this is the reason we lost at all though)

I think if that was the setup, though, Dunnstral, Solstice, and Toogeloo would have all been fades. Solstice wasn't being town read when we were going to guilty them.

I checked out hard around that time.