Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.13

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-01-04 23:00:00).

execution

Alchemist21 [4]:

2ndchosen1,

Dannflor

, Elements, PenguinPower

Kazyan [3]:

Papa Zito, Gamma Emerald, Alchemist21

PenguinPower [3]:

NoPowerOverMe, Lunar Martian, Kazyan

NoPowerOverMe [1]:

HeWhoSwims

Elements [1]:

Hayker

Not voting [1]:

ben dover123

mod notes

~ replacing ben dover123
~ less than 30 minutes to new year and this is what i'm doing
~ yeet

flavour

[PenguinPower]

It’s not a real wagon if you don’t get to e-2/1

[PenguinPower]

Pretty sure I said more than 4

[Alchemist21]

Oh. Your definition of wagon might be a bit too strict.

[PenguinPower]

9 seconds Datisi. Good job.

[PenguinPower]

Oh. Your definition of wagon might be a bit too strict.

I disagree. There’s no real threat below that threshold.

[Alchemist21]

Oh. Your definition of wagon might be a bit too strict.

I disagree. There’s no real threat below that threshold.

Do your wagonomics reads care more about the people getting wagoned or the people on the wagon?

[PenguinPower]

I mean - you have to look at both.

[Kazyan]

I mean, we heard complaints about wagons in this game when there were

two

votes on one person back-to-back, so there is clearly some disconnect on what the word actually means.

[Alchemist21]

Alright. I think the threat aspect is less relevant when looking at people on the wagon, but I'm mainly just trying to understand how you approach the game. I have no further questions.

[Dannflor]

hmmmm

[2ndchosen1]

@Elements, could you explain your read/vote on Alchemist earlier?
This seemed to occur after Dannflor did and right now, I can only see it as a more subtle version of Kazyan's IC sheeping onto a potential wagon rn.
earlier you even had this

I like Alchemist and Gamma

What caused the change specifically? you don't seem to so much as acknowledge Alchemist's presence until the "wagon" started forming with Dann


I understand if my light activity comes off as scummy but I'd like to think the actions I do help.
but to not help my case, will probably be off till tomorrow night, have a happy new year all!

[Datisi]

AGar replaces ben dover123.

[Elements]

Happy new year!

[NoPowerOverMe]

I find a contradictive that penguin complains about a lack of wagons yet does not want to be active.

[PenguinPower]

I think we have differing opinions on what constitutes active.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I was using your own words.

[PenguinPower]

What?

[Dannflor]

I think you'll find the disagreements in playstyle that is the basis in wagoning Penguin are about as shoddy as the disagreements in playstyle that were the basis for wagoning NPOM

[Dannflor]

I'm not saying Penguin is town

but like him not wall posting on D1 isn't scum indicative

[Dannflor]

I find a contradictive that penguin complains about a lack of wagons yet does not want to be active.

also like he's actively trying to contribute to wagons so at least there's that

[Dannflor]

Papa Z might be scum

[Hayker]

So I spent a large part of my day yesterday reviewing an old game I played. Due to it, I believe Papa Zito to be town. Ill admit using meta from a long time ago is a bit foolish, but it gives me a read on him for the time being.

Hayker, can you go into specifically what about Zito's meta created this read for you?

In KH mafia he spent a lot of time speaking about the fluffier elements in the game. A disemblodied voice was talking to us for awhile, and Zito was quick to engage in long winded discussion regarding it's place, even though it was just talking to us. He also analyzed generic game data, how many posts and so forth, while requesting prods for players from our mod. The rest of his posts will comments on other posts, occasionally throwing out things he found suspicious while applying no pressure.

This game he has come out swinging hard, applying votes, asking questions, trying to dig for information. I found Zito's exchange with Kazyan in particular to be interesting. It felt like his questions were both intended to get into Kazyan's mind, while also providing insight to a new player in this game.

Now I will once again note there has been a literally decade since back then, but I feel there is a huge difference in playstyle.

[Dannflor]

Thank you for explaining that

I disagree that Zito has exactly been swinging hard this game

but that helped me read you a bit better

[Dannflor]

my heart of hearts tells me

[dannflor]
[bendover, elements, npom]
[lunar, hayker, 2nd chosen]
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[heWhoSwims, kazyan, penguin]
[alchemist, gamma, papa zito]

something like that