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The last paragraph of this post mostly. It has little to do with the game but seems genuine including feeling genuinely frustrated in struggling to get a message across. Not only is there an indication that Kayzan wants to work with Town, but the acknowledgement of a communication issue also explains why people might misconstrue Kayzan's posts as coming from Mafia.In post 386, Kazyan wrote:
1) I mean, yeah. I sheeped. That happened. I'm not going to defend it, because I definitely sheeped.In post 385, Gamma Emerald wrote:That seems understandable but there's also the sheeping issues and I feel like it's a bit excessive even then?
I'm curious where Alchemist said anything about lack of optics concern though. Alchemist, if that is correct, why do you find that scummy of Kazyan?
2) My post confirmed your claim that I was concerned about optics. Alchemist does not buy my post's explanation that you are correct. Therefore, Alchemist does not buy that you are correct. You claim is that I was concerned about optics, so Alchemist does not buy that I was concerned about optics. This is subject to change based on whatever Alchemist tries to backpedal on.
In the future--assuming I don't get eliminated--is there something I can do to make my lines of reasoning more clear? Between the two rounds of Elements debacle and this confusion, it's apparent that I'm not great at clarity. Dannflor's earlier null read on me seems to corroborate this.-
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Lunar Martian Mafia Scum
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I think it was a good post. I didn't like the last paragraph but I liked the openness and sharing of Kayzan's thought process.In post 382, Dannflor wrote:
so uh, is it good or badIn post 377, Lunar Martian wrote:I like this post, especially the bit in the middle about Penguin. The bit at the end detracts from it though.
how does it affect your view on Kazyan in general
why is the end bad-
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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I'm not sure that's scum indicative coming from a new account.Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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Kazyan Goon
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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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That seems opportunistic.In post 404, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not sure that's scum indicative coming from a new account.Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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Meant to quote your post, sorry. My post is not opportunistic:).Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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ben dover123 Mafia Scum
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UNVOTE: NPOM
After rereading our RVS argument I find it towny because scum definitely don't need to get into such a dumb argument over something that doesn't do anything and has no towncred whatsoever.
The only reason I had against NPOM was that he looked like he was pocketing me and I was slightly paranoid about him but I remembered the time when clidd, the town doctor in 2043, pocketed me as town so I'll let it fly and I'll just make sure NPOM doesn't get in my head.
Lunar is overanalyzing like everything which is all towny.
Kazyan is still weird to me, I can't tell what is newbish behavior and what is scummy behavior, so for what it's worth I'll just say everything Kaz has posted to this point is NAI.
Getting a 2041 feel from Gamma rn...which is concerning to me but I'll let Gamma interact some more in this game before I start attaching strings to his meta.
Not sure where I should sort Alchemist, probably going to reread on him.-
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Neither is me not pushing him, but let's throw out some more buzzwords because buzzwords are kool.In post 409, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Meant to quote your post, sorry. My post is not opportunistic:).
Like - literally most new players go through the newbie queue and i'm not going to ignore that so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯<(") | (")>-
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I mean, if Kazyan is going straight to the Normal queue that means they are probably confident in his abilities to play the game in general. However, they still might be a newbie in terms of play so I'll read their posts as if I'm reading a newbie's post. If Kazyan is competent then he will show that, but no competence has been exhibited by them so far.-
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Kazyan Goon
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'He' is also fine; 'They' is simply preferred. No need to change anything. I actually care more about swapping the Z and Y in my name.In post 413, ben dover123 wrote:*they
sorry for misgendering, I have to review my posts now with so many "they" in the site now-
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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In case this was missed.In post 394, PenguinPower wrote:In post 392, Kazyan wrote:I hear that Day 1 interaction analysis isn't good.<(") | (")>-
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It was a funny gag but I don’t think you are based on styleIn post 406, Kazyan wrote:The jury is still out on me being a Hectic alt, I see.<Embrace The Void>
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This just seems incorrect? I have been quite active this game, which is a sharp contrast to 2041 where I played passive to start.In post 410, ben dover123 wrote:Getting a 2041 feel from Gamma rn...which is concerning to me but I'll let Gamma interact some more in this game before I start attaching strings to his meta.<Embrace The Void>
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My statement is in deference to what Ben said after I did IA the first time:In post 416, PenguinPower wrote:In case this was missed.
This is the entire basis of me saying that Day 1 IA is bad.In post 221, ben dover123 wrote:The reason that interaction analysis is bad before we have any mod confirmed evidence (hardclaims, flips, innocent townies, etc.) is because you are very likely to encounter bias if you find a interaction that makes the most sense to you. This is bad since without one guaranteed or near guaranteed alignment, anything can really happen, and since interaction analysis is very powerful people can get sucked into the bias really easily and will never take a second look. Right now it is best to just make some good fabricated reads alone rather than in pairs or triplets of people.-
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I think the fact Kazyan is so receptive to criticism rn seems a bit scummy, but could also be a newb thing, though I feel like they’d get a little defensive about something they’ve up to now but the trend seems to be entirely deference.<Embrace The Void>
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Nice bait.In post 420, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the fact Kazyan is so receptive to criticism rn seems a bit scummy, but could also be a newb thing, though I feel like they’d get a little defensive about something they’ve up to now but the trend seems to be entirely deference.-
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I rather foolishly may have invited both 2ndchosen1 and Kazyan to join this game. I assure you they are both simply rookies to forum mafia and have played mafia adjacent games. I really should have done it with a Newbie game is hindsight, but what is done is done.In post 414, PenguinPower wrote:Your prerogative - as stated, that's not what I assume.-
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