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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:16 pm

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Harvey Pew (4)
- armlx, Knight of Cydonia, neko2086, sekinj
Crazy (2)
- Battle Mage, Harvey Pew
OpposedForce (2)
- Crazy, Adel
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- Darox

Not Voting (11) - Raging Rabbit, OpposedForce, ThAdmiral, pwnz, DarlaBlueEyes, charter, Cephrir, cerebus3, WaltWishbone, Erratus Apathos, SleepyPanda
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:14 pm

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Darox wrote:I posted it as soon as I saw someone that was not named Crazy or lovers with Crazy asking for it.
Well, I wish you would have just said that, then.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:20 am

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Harvey Pew wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:Are you ever going to post anything mroe than un-related comments and appeals to emotion?
Knight, here is a select from your rational and so logical posts:

I really don't like Adel
your annoying, worthless and frankly scummy one-liners
unease
I'm not saying he's scummy in any way, other than the fact he's been unhelpful.
doesn't exactly engender confidence
it's more a mixture of gut... and a bone-deep mistrust
It just makes me a little wary
I don't like Adel and pwnz much
slightly lurking
I'm not happy

You are much more liable to emotion and flabby nebulous reasoing than myself. To try and dismiss everything I write as an appeal to emotion is incorrect and
intentionally misleading:


vote: Crazy
This is clearly unrelated comments and appeals to emotion.

vote: harvey
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 am

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armlx wrote:This, and voting confirmed town isn't good either.
You made this statement before. It was incorrect then. It is incorrect now.
There are no confirmed town
, the most you can possibly say is Crazy is not-werewolf on the balance of probabilities. You
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press that claim any further and to claim Crazy caught IcePenguin is wildly misleading. I have re-read Crazy's posts and there is no evidence of that at all.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:51 am

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Harvey Pew wrote:
armlx wrote:This, and voting confirmed town isn't good either.
You made this statement before. It was incorrect then. It is incorrect now.
There are no confirmed town
, the most you can possibly say is Crazy is not-werewolf on the balance of probabilities. You
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press that claim any further and to claim Crazy caught IcePenguin is wildly misleading. I have re-read Crazy's posts and there is no evidence of that at all.
Why in the world would scum have done something so outrageously stupid, with full knowledge how stupid it was? It was a fluke that I wasn't lynched.

That
is how I'm confirmed, or at least mostly confirmed.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:23 am

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I disagree with the confirmed town agruement. confirmed stupid /= confirmed town.
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:38 am

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sekinj wrote:I disagree with the confirmed town agruement. confirmed stupid /= confirmed town.
That's bad logic. The point is, for me to be scum, I would have had to have been pretending to be stupid, because I would have had to know that they daytalk tell would fail.

Now tell me, as scum, why the heck would I do that?
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:39 am

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Crazy wrote: It was a fluke that I wasn't lynched.
And it was a fluke I wasn't forced to suicide yesterday - and look how well that has cleared me.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:42 am

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It makes it
unlikely
that crazy is scum, but in no way does it confirm him as town.

That is not so much the issue as it is Harvey has thrown together a hodgepodge of vague statements as an excuse for a case, in addition to concerns raised yesterday.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:42 am

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Harvey Pew wrote:
Crazy wrote: It was a fluke that I wasn't lynched.
And it was a fluke I wasn't forced to suicide yesterday - and look how well that has cleared me.
What did you do that confirmed your towniness? Did I miss it?
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:46 am

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That's bad logic. The point is, for me to be scum, I would have had to have been pretending to be stupid, because I would have had to know that they daytalk tell would fail.

Now tell me, as scum, why the heck would I do that?
See, it would be stupid, but not impossible. I mean, ever heard of a scum gambit?
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:48 am

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neko2086 wrote:
That's bad logic. The point is, for me to be scum, I would have had to have been pretending to be stupid, because I would have had to know that they daytalk tell would fail.

Now tell me, as scum, why the heck would I do that?
See, it would be stupid, but not impossible. I mean, ever heard of a scum gambit?
This is correct. That is why I am only "mostly" cleared.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:10 am

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Crazy wrote:
sekinj wrote:I disagree with the confirmed town agruement. confirmed stupid /= confirmed town.
That's bad logic. The point is, for me to be scum, I would have had to have been pretending to be stupid, because I would have had to know that they daytalk tell would fail.

Now tell me, as scum, why the heck would I do that?
This is simply not true. Apologies as I haven't been contributing much to this game lately (I hope to be able to do a big reread this weekend though). You've given a reason in your post. If you make yourself appear dumb, then people will be more likely to think you're town (as you've said yourself). This is actually a pretty interesting scum strategy.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:12 am

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Please note though, it is not that I am either dumb scum or dumb town. I am either dumb town or extremely crafty scum.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:14 am

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Yes, I'm saying that appearing dumb doesn't make you any more town.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:19 am

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The issue isn't whether or not Crazy and I are confirmed town or not: the issue is the fact that after an incredibly scummy D2, HP has continued to post meaningless appeals to emotion and cases based on vague, random, meaningless "quotes".
That's a hell of a bigger scum-tell than Crazy being a bit stupid.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:22 am

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vote Crazy


You can thank KoC for that Crazy, as it was his 'don't look at us, look at the obvscum HP instead' that just condemned you guys. This is scumlogic, and not how townies go about trying to save themselves, or lynch others.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:27 am

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Now the awesome thing is, I can't be called scum and insulted at the same time. When someone is insulting my intelligence here, they're actually calling me pro-town! When someone is calling me scum, they're actually complimenting me!

Yay! Too bad pwnz had to be replaced. :P
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:36 am

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Actually, I'd say it's charter + lover(soon enough) jumping on the HP + cerebus(soon, I expect) hopeful wagon on me and Crazy. I smell something lupine in the air.
I don't feel the need to defend us against completely unfounded accusations, based on a pile of appeals to emotion and accusations founded on something which has been explained pretty bloody well and dismissed D1. Basing a case on that scum-tell is more scummy, IMHO - it looks as if you're trying to dig up any old wagon in an act of desperate self-preservation.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:45 am

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I don't plan on voting Crazy.

My response to Darox just got eaten by my browser randomly closing and I don't feel like redoing it right now.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:47 am

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Knight of Cydonia wrote:Actually, I'd say it's charter + lover(soon enough) jumping on the HP + cerebus(soon, I expect) hopeful wagon on me and Crazy. I smell something lupine in the air.
I don't feel the need to defend us against completely unfounded accusations, based on a pile of appeals to emotion and accusations founded on something which has been explained pretty bloody well and dismissed D1. Basing a case on that scum-tell is more scummy, IMHO - it looks as if you're trying to dig up any old wagon in an act of desperate self-preservation.
Nah, I don't think so. If they wanted self-preservation, then they'd just vote HP.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:00 am

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Crazy wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:Actually, I'd say it's charter + lover(soon enough) jumping on the HP + cerebus(soon, I expect) hopeful wagon on me and Crazy. I smell something lupine in the air.
I don't feel the need to defend us against completely unfounded accusations, based on a pile of appeals to emotion and accusations founded on something which has been explained pretty bloody well and dismissed D1. Basing a case on that scum-tell is more scummy, IMHO - it looks as if you're trying to dig up any old wagon in an act of desperate self-preservation.
Nah, I don't think so. If they wanted self-preservation, then they'd just vote HP.
If we fucking needed self preservation we'd do that. It's just something KoC has made up in his head, or has somehow been convinced by Darox.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:52 am

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@ crazy confirmed town: well it's no cop investigation, but it's better than what most have so I'm inclined to give you a free pass for now.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:08 pm

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Darox's chat was pretty convincing, although the same thought went through my mind that crazy had, it did take a lot of time. I dont think this is really a scumtell though. I hope OF is replaced soon, I'd like to hear what his replacement has to contibute. As far as the crazy discussion, there may be a few people who believe he is confirmed, but there are quite a few who do not, including myself and even he admits he is only mostly cleared. I really dont have anything other than whats already been stated too justify a case against him though and koc seems fairly town to me. I'd like to hear more from dbe and thAd, I hope dbe is ok with all the bad weather, I didn't see anything in the news about evacuations though, so hopefully she is just busy and will post soon. As far as the other werewolves, I tend to agree with adel, that SP seems fairly town. I'm not sure what to make of hp, I am going to do some more reading.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:14 pm

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