Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:35 pm

I still for one dont understand the reborn wagon, at all. Would rather lynch almost anyone else at this point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:35 pm

Thnx, Reborn, I appreciate it

I can get very emotional over personal attacks...

And seriously, no. Scum lovers are not possible. Not in this situation. The scum are not going to be attached with a cripling attritube like that...In the least, everyone else would be VT's.

(And i'm saying that from a 3rd party opinion, excluding the knowledge I have that i'm town)

Xtoxm · Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:38 pm

Well, like I said, i'm open to changing.

If you want to get a new wagon going, just saying "I want anyone else lynched" isn't enough.

If you are so confident, then try to instigate a new wagon on who you think is scum.

We're close to deadline now. I'll be around when deadline hits, but i'm sure atleast half the town won't.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:45 pm

Xtoxm wrote:If you want to get a new wagon going, just saying "I want anyone else lynched" isn't enough.

If you are so confident, then try to instigate a new wagon on who you think is scum.

Yeah I know but I really dont have a whole lot on anyone else is my problem here. I do have a strong town read on reborn though, and they tend to be accurate. Given that we would need a scramble lynch, I would go with TT who really hasnt done a whole lot this game except try and get the lovers lynched.

Actually, I was voted by TT for trying to instigate a lover lynch at one point (531) D1, which he now seems to think is the best action possible. Hypocritcal scum lurking in plain site dies maybe? Not our inventor, hell I would even go for an EK lynch before reborn.

reborn537 · Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:39 pm

I will support a wagon of anyone except the claimed roles over myself.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:44 pm

You would rather yourself be lynched than certain people?

reborn537 · Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:52 pm

If the lovers are both townies, then they are more valuable than me. LF's JOAT role is arguably better than mine. Bodyguard is not necessarily as good as my role, but with the suspicion surrounding me and the fact that a mafia roleblocker could utterly sink me tonight I am a better lynch than IG.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:15 pm

Mmm. Good post.

I think I voted you mainly out of annoyance for you being silly rather than actually finding you scummy.

I am feeling that this is a mislynch. As STD pointed out, I did find your predecessor pro-town, and everything you said before page 35 (or whatever it was) pro-town.

Unvote

, but i'm really not sure where to put it right now. Perhaps the discrepancy I noticed with Kloud is vote worthy.

I think scum must be playing quite well, cause i'm not getting a great deal, atm.

reborn537 · Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:21 pm

What was the discrepancy?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:24 pm

Xtoxm wrote:Kloud, you express extreme confidence in BG being scum. (Ignoring the fact that I disagree with you) This should mean you have extreme confidence that I am town. Yet you express some suspicion for me, too. This makes no sense.

Why is this?

^^

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:31 pm

I would like a TT wagon more then a Kloud wagon right now due to his vote on me for voting the lovers and now his vote on the lovers

reborn537 · Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:33 pm

LlamaFluff wrote:I would like a TT wagon more then a Kloud wagon right now due to his vote on me for voting the lovers and now his vote on the lovers

What page?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:34 pm

Possibly.

I can't shake this town feel I get from him though.

reborn537 · Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:35 pm

Xtoxm wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Kloud, you express extreme confidence in BG being scum. (Ignoring the fact that I disagree with you) This should mean you have extreme confidence that I am town. Yet you express some suspicion for me, too. This makes no sense.

Why is this?
^^

This is a pretty common descrepancy for mafia players. But let's be honest, just because someone is suspicious it doesn't mean they have to be scum - I think kloud is hedging his bets and saying that one of you has to be scum because you're both suspicious. In doing so he creates a false dilemma, but I'm not convinced it's deliberate.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:36 pm

reborn537 wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:I would like a TT wagon more then a Kloud wagon right now due to his vote on me for voting the lovers and now his vote on the lovers
What page?

Post 531 (thats around pg 20 I think). Out of the pool of players being discussed now TT tops that list by a lot, a whole lot.

RestFermata · Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:42 pm

OK, I'm here for now. I'm going to read TT's posts in isolation.

reborn537 · Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:42 pm

thinktank wrote:The proper play is to wait for day 2 to lynch either of them. Now is not the time.

vote: Llama

What a bad time to make a terrible idea.

Nice.

vote tt

Xtoxm · Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:48 pm

I may go for this one.

I'll see what RF thinks after the reread.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:14 pm

LlamaFluff wrote:
I say we still lynch TT, reborn is inventor.

I'd support a TT lynch as well. Nobody seemed to be following that idea but I think it is the best way to go right now.

unvote, vote TT

.
I will keep this on unless we get close to the deadline and reborn is still the only option.

reborn537 wrote: Scum lovers are possible. Let's not talk as if it's ruled out.

I doubt it in a game this size.

reborn537 · Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:16 pm

Me too. But it's not ruled out.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:20 pm

Xtoxm wrote:If you are so confident, then try to instigate a new wagon on who you think is scum.

TT,
-not much content
-when he does add content, he doesn't push it
-tunnel vision

Anyone else, feel free to add more.

reborn537 wrote:
thinktank wrote:The proper play is to wait for day 2 to lynch either of them. Now is not the time.

vote: Llama

What a bad time to make a terrible idea.
Nice.

vote tt

Good vote.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:20 pm

Honestly, if I was a non-lover townie in this situation, I would use this line that i've used on a few occasions now.

It's possible, but I feel the possibility is so small that we can ignore it.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:23 pm

Good line.
I may start using that in mafia.
This is a good place to use it too.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:24 pm

Both of the following are quotes taken from the rules:

If majority is not reached by deadline the person with the highest votes is lynched.

If you do not have a majority when deadline arrives, there will be no lynch.

I find this somewhat contradictory.

We should clear this up with the mod when she gets back.

I hope the first one is the correct one.

farside22 · Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:27 pm

The mod thinks you went nuts vote count.

Vote:

thinktank 3 vote: (LlamaFluff, reborn537, kmd4390)
Elvis Knits 2 vote: (Inspector Godot, GhostWriter)
Rockatansky 1 vote: (thinktank)

reborn537 3 vote: (elvis_knits, Rockatansky, Save The Dragons)

Xtoxm 1 vote: (kloud1516)
kloud1516 1 vote: (RestFermata)

Not voting:

xtoxm

With 12 people it take 7 votes for lynch
Day 1 ends Sept 3rd 4:00pm PST.
I will prod and read everything more tomorrow. I'm just exhausted.