Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: TLDR

That bored the tits off me. Seriously go read them, It'll take you like 5 mins

[Gamma Emerald]

lol that "no comment" vibe is one I can feel sometimes
it's why I never catch up page-by-page, either single posts or several pages in a post
Why is pocketing people boring for you?

[MURDERCAT]

Flea the fact that it's not typical is why I'm concerned about it

[Flea The Magician]

The page by page catchups help me a lot, honestly. For me it gets me into the game, it stirs reactions, and helps me get my thoughts down. To me it's also helping me track my thoughts - yes this is potentially scummy - yes I could use my notes PT - but I like people to see what I'm thinking as I go because then if I'm misunderstanding something it can be corrected sooner than later.

Pocket plays are cheap ways to gain town reads.Surprisingly easy to pull off as well if you have the right people around for your style. Incredibly obvious as well to those who know how to read a player.

I'd rather put effort in, generate reads myself, and have others generate a read on me naturally. If it comes out town or scum, it's a genuine read and people will see that.

MC, that's fair. I was looking at stuff for and against your case, that was stuff that pinged with me as either for or against it. I do have a town lean on you and while the evidence is there, I don't feel the case was well motivated and with the strength it was being pushed it felt off. I went in hoping to find more in favour of you than against you.

[Gamma Emerald]

eh okay
btw flea what are you willing to vote that has 3 or more votes rn?

[SirCakez]

The former but also the reasons people are SRing BM here just seem to be BM being BM

I have 0 experience with BM and haven't read any games with them. Do you think the post that raised my hackles is also typical for them?

which post was this?

A bunch of people said "I don't know why MC was wagoned" and then suddenly the wagon stopped.

Which is the thing I was questioning. I thought I made myself pretty clear.

I feel like Murdercat went from top wagon to not happening really fast and with no one actually defending them.

I concur very weird (even though I want no elim)
BM and Titus wagons feel scum driven counters

I don't think I wanna vote out murderkitty. Tbh.

hi MC's scum buddy!

I don't see a reason to vote here

In the general no-lim sense? Or you don't think that looks like BM acting like they know Blitzo is town, starting to make a self-doubt post, and then spending the rest of the post on a 100% assumption of Blitzo-scum.

The former but also the reasons people are SRing BM here just seem to be BM being BM

Pretty sure I’ve done a fair job pointing out how it’s very much not that but w/e

I really have not gotten that considering I've asked you before and you admitted you have beef

[SirCakez]

I guess I'd say Cakez, Taly, Pooky, and BM. And I'm townreading Taly and Pooky.

I guess maybe I contributed too, at least stealing away momentum, but the wagon was feeling like it was going too quickly when I checked in last night and I wanted to make sure it didn't hammer before I got time to come back to the game.

how was I involved in this other than moving to no elim? (which I've been saying the whole game I wanted)

Okay. Do you think Cakez+BM are scum? I could see it myself. Cakez seems dedicated to gaslighting me by painting my BM push as a personal gripe.

bro it feels exactly the same as your Xenoblade 2 push where you were both town
what is different here?

I am fine with Akarin's plan in 2182
I go to Electric if MC is elimmed?

Taly if you have your choice of elims who is it?

[SirCakez]

Ok but if anything he seems better here then Xenoblade 2?

Yeah that’s where he gets ya. He seems “better” when he’s scum, because of what I spoke of earlier about being an agent of chaos.

yeah but in the game I played with him as scum he was actually terrible, much worse than here or Xenoblade 2 (quality of play wise)

Well he tries to use his bad play as a cover
His quality is not the thing at the core of how I’m reading him. It’s his behavior pattern and way of posting.

like Gamma can you elaborate on this?

[Taly]

Cakez

, I'm a bit up in the air.

TGP >/=/? Titus = No Lim = Haschel

at the moment.

Unless you lot believe at least 2 of the scumteam exist within

BM/Haschel/Pooky/Gamma

AND

Pooky

is getting hard pocketed

(because

Pooky

is well townread)

I have no clue what's scum led about this wagon aside from

Akarin's

points on

Haschel

.

I feel like

Haschel

isn't providing context to his scumhunting and so his motives for pushing

Titus

seem both veiled and potentially disingenuous.

But I also review back and I dislike

Titus'

play around

Reck/Haschel

.

HC is scum riding off town Reck's coattails to disrupt the game.

this is an extremely spicy take considering until you posted this i had forgotten HC was even in the game, what is HC doing that is "disruptive"

Sheeping your no claim position.

Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Point this out to me.

Also Reck is the only person talking any sense right now; I too have already decided which room I'm going to tonight. I'll let you know where it is tomorrow.

this? this one post is what qualifies as "riding my coattails" and "disrupting the game"???

Yup. He's putting interest and motivating you to push garbage to try and stop town from coordinating. That's disruptive and riding your thoughts.

To my knowledge, she was one of the first people to inject the

Haschel/Reck

TvS. She asserted doubt into

Haschel's

intentions WHILE saying

Reck's

opinions were

"garbage"

and still townreads

Reck

in the same vein. It feels like a TMI on

Reck's

alignment because this functionally provided doubt to

Reck's

thinking without having to push him as scum for the POV.

[Gamma Emerald]

I really have not gotten that considering I've asked you before and you admitted you have beef

Yes it exists but I'm NOT the one promoting it. It's him and you making it like that. I have personal grievance with his playstyle but it's not why I SR him. I SR him because he's lining up with his scumgame more than his towngame from what I'VE seen, and your counterpoint of the scumgame you saw didn't really do anything to impact how I see things, and it also lead to the second issue with BM's play which is he tried to sidestep his own self-meta in an attempt to make me the bad guy.

[SirCakez]

TGP is a decent elim but I don't see why he's at the top of your list?

[SirCakez]

I really have not gotten that considering I've asked you before and you admitted you have beef

Yes it exists but I'm NOT the one promoting it. It's him and you making it like that. I have personal grievance with his playstyle but it's not why I SR him. I SR him because he's lining up with his scumgame more than his towngame from what I'VE seen, and your counterpoint of the scumgame you saw didn't really do anything to impact how I see things, and it also lead to the second issue with BM's play which is he tried to sidestep his own self-meta in an attempt to make me the bad guy.

ok I will stop referring to it then
What scumgames are you referring to here?

[Taly]

TGP

is the only

Murder

vote I can confidently say has scum motivation.

I'm tempted to just vote

Haschel

or

Titus

, but I feel like vote hopping right now will only create more chaos.

Right now, I'm thinking

Reck/Alisae/Pooky

are all town and

Haschel/Titus

could be S/S.

[SirCakez]

You think Haschel is bussing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

@Cakez 2207

As for his behavior pattern, recall how I accused him of having double the posts of the next highest poster in xc2? Here he has been posting but it hasn't been to the degree of that game where he was an engine fueled by some unknown force. He also feels similar to Donner Party/Open 800 where he did post a fair bit but he kinda kept a low profile. He hasn't really pushed much here either, in fact towards the beginning the only "content" I detected from him was just blaring the same stuff about wanting to go to electrical tonight (which I'm just gonna call out as sus on a setup level because that place is a death trap in the actual Skeld map, and the site of a sabotage option).

[Taly]

You think Haschel is bussing?

I don't know why else

Haschel

focuses on

Titus

unless it's like him as town to just sit on one person for the entirety of D1.

[Taly]

be back soon

[Blitzo]

MC's vote analysis post doesn't really seem to come to any actual conclusions and I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish with it.
I also don't understand BM's statement on how Titus is confscum but I know I'm not getting anything in the way of an explanation.
@Taly - I'm not sure what you mean you're going to create more chaos?
Reads like an excuse to not vote tbh.

[Taly]

wait hold up, my vote should at least reflect my current POV

VOTE: Haschel

i want to see what this does to the votes.

murder/alisae

be freeeeee

p-edit

k,

blitzo

.

[Taly]

You think Haschel is bussing?

I don't know why else

Haschel

focuses on

Titus

unless it's like him as town to just sit on one person for the entirety of D1.

to be perfectly candid, i can see a situation where

titus

is town more so than

haschel

with this idea.

k for real, ill be back soon

[Battle Mage]

MC's vote analysis post doesn't really seem to come to any actual conclusions and I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish with it.
I also don't understand BM's statement on how Titus is confscum but I know I'm not getting anything in the way of an explanation.
@Taly - I'm not sure what you mean you're going to create more chaos?
Reads like an excuse to not vote tbh.

I feel like Blitzo's posts all follow the same basic structure:

Player X did this. I don't understand.
Player Y did this. I am confused.
Player Z said this. I don't know what they mean.

[Battle Mage]

with 5 hours left, looks like no-lim is inevitable anyway. no time to get a last minute claim from anybody, and I don't favour elimming without that.

[Akarin]

which post was this?

Spoiler: This one

Yeah I guess I only repeatedly pointed out where you didn't explain your reads.
Actually I just recalled the only other time we interacted and it was when I pointed out where you didn't explain your reads.
Then you continued not explaining your reads.
But I guess it's okay if you wanna keep pushing this angle where you're so transparent and clear when you haven't done even the slightest bit of reasoning.
Someone just pointed out how your reads are forming (RE - being based on whether someone scum/townreads you) and I think that's actually pretty accurate.
If there's something I missed definitely point it out because I'm just not seeing someone scumhunting tbh.

I slightly wonder why hypothetical Blitzo-scum would risk engaging with me here

, although maybe he is more brazen than I'd expect. The hyperbole and exaggeration above are worth flagging, as is the piggy-backing off a suggestion by Cakez (which actually misrepped Cakez a bit, but was super convenient for skimming-scum-Blitzo). After I call him out for not really engaging with me, he actually makes a half-hearted cover in the last line, but is it believable? In his last post, he claimed near 100% certainty I was scum. It feels more like he was suddenly under pressure and to feign a solving-mindset, rather than town who genuinely has doubts.

Overall I think Blitzo is scum and I am content to elim there today.

I'm suddenly okay with the Battle Mage wagon.

I don't see a reason to vote here

In the general no-lim sense? Or you don't think that looks like BM acting like they know Blitzo is town, starting to make a self-doubt post, and then spending the rest of the post on a 100% assumption of Blitzo-scum.

[SirCakez]

You think Haschel is bussing?

I don't know why else

Haschel

focuses on

Titus

unless it's like him as town to just sit on one person for the entirety of D1.

he wants a miselim?

[Battle Mage]

Cakez are you coming to Electrical?