Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

meh
rather you just sorted the part of the poe i'm actually stressed about tbh

i like this guy now

fidgey u r so smart

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think we can win with sneasel-jake

i have a good feeling girls

[Fidget]

Oh, I just wanted Sneasel to stop trusting people other than me.

i live to stress you out :)

p-edit: :oops: s- stop that, my nose is very important

I'll be upset if you leave :(

[Fidget]

Thank u Dad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sneasel pls do not abandon fidgey

i will be hurt

[Necessary Sneasel]

i skipped the last page because gloria/rr is not something i'll be reading + jake just made a useless post

Hi Akarin, hello Sneasel.

I'm up for hugs and ice cream. I have a question for Sneasel, too: What is your current opinion of Pooky, minus sheeping Gloria's read of him?

if i could vig someone in this game it'd probably be jake but pooky would be a close second.
my god.
i am so annoyed.

pooky has reasonable scum equity and if town SHOULD have realised at some point quite a lot earlier that he's sandbagging the hell out of his wincon by being an adorable lurksack. as scum it's in his interest to be an adorable lurksack, theater a little with hectic, then stay cute into endgame while =player name here= (gloria in this case) defends him

having said that i do actually buy that RR has reasonable scum equity

i am firmly null on jake because they are doing exactly nothing this game

i hate people who say this shit but i'm at the point where i think rr is scum, who the hell knows what jake's deal is, pooky sure could be scum but i'd rather lose to him pretending to play the game than lose to jake lolcatting the entire thing except for the bit where he had a low-grade temper tantrum

[Necessary Sneasel]

i think there's a really interesting strategy in removing gloria from the game so that RR feels that they can engage the game in good faith

intentionally not making comment on whether i think their interaction is good or bad faith tbqh

[Fidget]

i hate people who say this shit but i'm at the point where i think rr is scum, who the hell knows what jake's deal is, pooky sure could be scum but i'd rather lose to him pretending to play the game than lose to jake lolcatting the entire thing except for the bit where he had a low-grade temper tantrum

Basically, yeah. That's what I think currently, I want to throw Jake/Rainbow out even if it ignores how we were supposed to leave Pooky out because of basically that.

It's probably Rainbow.

Definitely.

[Necessary Sneasel]

i think we can win with sneasel-jake

i have a good feeling girls

this is obviously pandering regardless of alignment and if pooky is scum he's POE'd so hard he has no option BUT to pander

[Necessary Sneasel]

my dream for today would be having a gloria-shelly pairing leave and letting the POE play a bit

i'd rather not explain why shelly over fidget or akarin

[Akarin]

For the record, that noseboop cleared up the rest of the lingering paranoia I had about Sneasel, if any.

I don't want to pair Rainbow, but there's no reason we (or at least I) can't engage with them in good faith.

Feels kind of like a tossup, I agree with Sneasel about Dad, but on the other hand, have you seen Pooky's music taste?

[Fidget]

i think we can win with sneasel-jake

i have a good feeling girls

this is obviously pandering regardless of alignment and if pooky is scum he's POE'd so hard he has no option BUT to pander

That's consistent with his entire game the whole way through anyway.

So does scum accept their fate and select two other players to save, or do they fight to not be in the bottom two?

..interestingly enough, I definitely see scum!Pooky choosing "pandering" and scum!Rainbow choosing "fighting". So that sucks.

Honestly could see Pooky having a higher chance of flipping scum than Jake by virtue of Pooky being good at this kind of manipulation, but because of that very reason you mentioned earlier where I'd be way angrier losing to Jake!scum than Pooky!scum, it's hard to justify saving Jake over Pooky.

[Akarin]

If I don't get to ride off into the sunset with either Gloria OR Shelly, I refuse to pair with anyone but Fidget

[Necessary Sneasel]

Feels kind of like a tossup, I agree with Sneasel about Dad, but on the other hand, have you seen Pooky's music taste?

i really have, i'm worried a might have a bit of a crush on him

[Necessary Sneasel]

i think we can win with sneasel-jake

i have a good feeling girls

this is obviously pandering regardless of alignment and if pooky is scum he's POE'd so hard he has no option BUT to pander

That's consistent with his entire game the whole way through anyway.

So does scum accept their fate and select two other players to save, or do they fight to not be in the bottom two?

..interestingly enough, I definitely see scum!Pooky choosing "pandering" and scum!Rainbow choosing "fighting". So that sucks.

Honestly could see Pooky having a higher chance of flipping scum than Jake by virtue of Pooky being good at this kind of manipulation, but because of that very reason you mentioned earlier where I'd be way angrier losing to Jake!scum than Pooky!scum, it's hard to justify saving Jake over Pooky.

yeah i feel very similarly. if i'm literally playing to ruin the days of players who i think are scum, last pair must be pooky/rr.

but the spiteful bitch inside me doesn't want jake leaving

[Necessary Sneasel]

untrust: akarin
untrust: fidget

this is kind of superficial because i doubt either of you are silly enough to accidentally hammer leaving with me or w/e

i do think akarin/fidget is a good pairing though i'm not sure if i'm really ideal to have in f4

i can't really set up a good f4 in this game

[Necessary Sneasel]

i admire your restraint gloria, you

do

have the ability to trust Pooky and force the game onto that gamble and i think it's cool that you're not exercising that

we're dealing with a PoE of
- Pooky
- RR
- Jake
- sneasel

akarin, fidget, shelly, gloria all clear (game would be over if they were scum)

I'm only clearable by shelly or someone in the PoE atm because I'm a smart ass

HEAL: jake (on the proviso Jake actually does something in the next few days), sneasel
HURT: Pooky, RR

we can check if this has maj if we want but that's pretty much pointless

I really like this post from sneasel


feeling better now about staying behind with RR.

meh
rather you just sorted the part of the poe i'm actually stressed about tbh

i like this guy now

fidgey u r so smart

issue #147 with pooky, I didn't really think either of these posts were towny...lol

I nearly deleted the first one because I have no idea what the point of it was, I was just kind of waffling and restating my POE in a different way in case anyone substantially disagreed

the second one is exactly what scum Sneasel needs to say to shelly in that situation unless I'm feeling like a BADASS and I'm like "yeah duh lemme cash in that sick towncred fam"

idk like in all of my posts I feel like I'm consistently towny but neither of those posts felt like things I'd expect people to consider as turning points into townreading me? I feel generally fairly obvtown though so whatever

[Fidget]

:X

[Necessary Sneasel]

sorry i'm aware #1116 is probably fairly anxiety inducing to townies but it was irking me

[Necessary Sneasel]

:X

i was looking for a bit of a reply to this

do you feel like pooky actually has a read on me?

[Necessary Sneasel]

Who is not ok with a Jake/Snevil pairing?

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Gloria is not a puppet master, or a master of the dark arts, or in control of your body in any way. This means that she is not forcing you to respond to her answers. The only one who is making you respond to her answers is yourself. Unless you have evidence that she is capable of controlling your body against your will, stop insisting that she is the reason why you cannot stop interacting with her.

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It is not an opinion. You indirectly made the claim that she was somehow forcing you to interact with her. I am asking for evidence of this claim. Instead of dodging or deflecting, could you try supporting your claim with evidence?

part of me wonders if this string of posts is jake seeing something like what gloria is seeing in RR or whether i'm looking for reasons to townread jake

[Necessary Sneasel]

what is love if not a leap of faith?

I trust Uncrowned

The geek in me often gets triggered when I see the term "Leap of Faith" used, if only because of the way the Assassin's Creed Franchise gave it so much meaning in the earlier games only to rip it away in Assassin's Creed Odyssey, fundamentally tossing away what was one of the original and most recognizable traits of the legendary group.

Anyways.

It feels good being valued for once.

This is tragic. I am sure you will find someone better to dance with <3

I will sleep alone and sad tonight.

I am glad my townread on you was at least correct :3

i feel so guilty right now

this is not a rejection i promise

i am just torn

it's ok, what's not meant to be,

is not meant to be.

Untrust : Uncrowned

I think you should dance with Akarin, her eyes glow like a thousand stars when she looks at you.

i need to go for a bit, i'll talk about this later.

[Akarin]

I know I've spent a lot of time looking for reasons to townread Jake and then telling myself I need to walk away and approach it fresh later.

[Gloria Cleary]

@Sneasel, I don’t want to exit the game unless I’m beyond certain RR never gets trusted.

[Necessary Sneasel]

Briefly -

I know I've spent a lot of time looking for reasons to townread Jake and then telling myself I need to walk away and approach it fresh later.

Same and I don't think there's enough content in Jake's iso that I'll ever feel fresh enough.

@Sneasel, I don’t want to exit the game unless I’m beyond certain RR never gets trusted.

I can't promise this. I can promise that there's an extremely low chance of me ever trusting RR, and that they will very likely be one of the people alive at the end of the game.

If we're wrong on RR and we decide that they will absolutely never be trusted, then the remaining scum in Pooky/Jake doesn't need to do much to accidentally win. Even without me trusting RR, the moment I say "never", the game gets easier for scum Jake or scum Pooky - and I'm not going to do that.

RR is relying on the narrative that they are unable to play the game with you in it. That narrative might be true, and might be false (as you, Jake, and others suspect). But if we force RR into a situation where that narrative no longer exists, they necessarily need to play harder, making them easier to read.

I think RR is scum, too. Pardon the chess analogy but removing you is like a "check" against them.