Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:36 am

Save The Dragons wrote: I'm a little wary of Thinktank at the moment. Something about him is bugging me.

Could it be the fact that he doesn't go out of the way to voice any opinions and even when he does, he barely backs it up at all?

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:37 am

Xtoxm wrote:
I'm a little wary of Thinktank at the moment. Something about him is bugging me.
His tunnelvision on lynching the lovers even thought atleast one of us is garanteed to be town?

That too.

reborn537 · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:43 am

It's worth pointing out that it's not impossible for them both to be scum, although in a game this size it is unlikely.

Anyway, I guess I'll

unvote

I'd been avoiding this for a while because I found things a little awkward after the whole Xtoxm thing.

Well anyway, I guess people are going for me because I got mixed up over my role function? That's fair enough, and it's certainly what I would do in your position so I'm not going to ask for something I wouldn't give.

Just remember not to overlook the Lovers tomorrow, and take another look at all the claimed roles - I expect LF to be roleblocked now I'm getting lynched (obvious scum move to prevent me being confirmed with the dodgy claim was to RB me and then get me lynched tomorrow), so if he says that don't think that he's obv. scum.

ISO · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:18 am

Xtoxm wrote:His tunnelvision on lynching the lovers even thought atleast one of us is garanteed to be town?

His tunnelvision in general, as it seems he does not have much to say about the game other than what he is currently doing.

Kmd4390 wrote:Could it be the fact that he doesn't go out of the way to voice any opinions and even when he does, he barely backs it up at all?

Yeah, that's been interesting.

Re: Reborn

The only answer I got to my suspicions was the claim, and if I can't believe that, then I don't have an answer to my suspicions.

reborn537 wrote: Just remember not to overlook the Lovers tomorrow, and take another look at all the claimed roles - I expect LF to be roleblocked now I'm getting lynched (obvious scum move to prevent me being confirmed with the dodgy claim was to RB me and then get me lynched tomorrow), so if he says that don't think that he's obv. scum.

Roleblocker? Do we know of the presence a scum roleblocker or did you pretty much just confess to being in a scum group with a roleblocker?

reborn537 · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:27 am

No, it's just extremely common and considering the amount of power roles I consider it emminently possible.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:16 am

Save The Dragons wrote:
reborn537 wrote: I expect LF to be roleblocked
Roleblocker? Do we know of the presence a scum roleblocker or did you pretty much just confess to being in a scum group with a roleblocker?

Good catch.
This quote makes reborn look VERY sure of a role blocker being in this game.
While it is a common role, we don't know that there is one.

elvis_knits · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:27 am

Hmmm, changing your role claim, suggesting night actions that result in more dead (inventing death rays), watching the flash wiki thing to understand your "role" (instead of reading your pm or asking the mod), and assuming a mafia RB in the game?

Scum-o!

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:32 am

It doesn't look like the TT lynch is going to happen.
Deadline is getting closer.

unvote, vote reborn

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:24 am

I still dont get the reborn lynch. I really think he is the inventor who misinterpreted his inital role PM.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:29 am

If nobody has 7 votes by deadline is it a no lynch or does the person with the most votes get lynched?

GhostWriter · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:36 am

I think it said most votes in the rules. It's why we keep telling LF not to vote, because it confuses things.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:40 am

I like voting and im a big proponent of always having a vote out, not having one just feels so wrong. Either way, why are we lynching reborn? The way he claimed really makes me think he is the inventor, if he is a SK that was one of the most impressive fakeclaims I have ever seen and almost impossible to prove. If he is scum, well I dont think he is scum for claiming such a proveable role, if he is a scum inventor that much have a lot of restrictions as well.

I say we still lynch TT, reborn is inventor.

GhostWriter · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:41 am

Fumbling with the claim is one of the most impressive you've seen?

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:46 am

Completely misinterpreting what the role he claimed does is

Xtoxm · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:51 am

Misinterpretation is not telling, really. You can get a fake claim wrong, infact i'd think taht's probably more likely.

On the RB, when I first joined I stick for assuming scum had an RB (I was town).

I find usually scum do have an RB, though not always.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:53 am

Llama - To gain your vote, you have to sacrifice your power, right?

Can you do that in the same night as using your power?

Either way, I advise gaining your vote on N2, I think by that stage town will need it.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:54 am

His tunnelvision in general, as it seems he does not have much to say about the game other than what he is currently doing.

It's starting to annoy me, especially as I really am thinking he's town. Same for IG. We need everyone participating.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:55 am

Xtoxm wrote:Misinterpretation is not telling, really. You can get a fake claim wrong, infact i'd think taht's probably more likely.

He claimed intention to use a deathray while speculating about what names for investigative and medical (if memory serves correctly) could be. I dont think someone would ever fakeclaim a role that they were not sure of how it worked, or even something as complex as an inventor (WIFOM I know). An inventor scum really doesnt make sense either, they just pass the invention to another scum and boom, two nightkills per night.

I think that reborn is town-inventor. I think that TT should be lynched. I think that people are going to ignore both of those facts though and screw up day one even worse then it already is.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:57 am

Xtoxm wrote:Llama - To gain your vote, you have to sacrifice your power, right?

Can you do that in the same night as using your power?

Each night I can

1) Target a person on who I perform a random action
2) Target a person with a specific action

If I choose 2 my vote counts the subsequent day and I have no more night actions. I already have my night moves planned though regardless of what alignment gets lynched today though, no coaching.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:57 am

I think it's well possible, and I would be open to another wagon, as listed.

It's just that his recent actions really pissed me off...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:59 am

Yes, ofcourse.

That's pretty nice though, I didn't realise you could have a normal JOAT action one night.

kloud1516 · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:21 pm

GhostWriter wrote:Alright, kloud, please explain something to me:

Exhibit A:

kloud1516 wrote:>I haven't been able to get any read off of TT thus far, as he hasn't posted all that much. I haven't really gotten many pro-town vibes from him, but at the same time I haven't seen anything besides his low activity level that I feel radiates scum--which isn't much itself.
Exhibit B:

kloud1516 wrote:>IG and GW: I haven't really gotten huge reads on either. GW has not really posted all that much
Now then, given those two exhibits, unless there is some extra thing you've left out of what you think of me, WHY is your list like this:

kloud1516 wrote:
Suspicions List (second group is who I wouldn't want to lynch today):

>BG/Rock
>xtoxm
>GW
>KMD
>Reborn

~~~~~~

>EK
>TT
>IG
>RG
>STD
>LF
>Me

What makes me more suspicious than thinktank? Or thinktank less suspicious than me?

I never said that the list was arranged from most suspicious to least suspicious. The only person within the list that has a solid spot would be BG, who I feel is the most suspicious to me. All other slots were/still are subject to change. The list is simply separated into those who I wouldn't mind seeing lynched and those who I do not think should be lynched today. This does not necessarily mean, as I explained in my previous posts, that I find certain people to be scummy and others not so scummy, it is just that many players fall within the bounds of a neutral read (you included) and I feel that others are more likely town. Then there are those who have claimed power roles, and because of this I do not want to see them lynched Day 1. I hope that makes sense, and if it doesn't tell me, and I will try to explain it again.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:24 pm

Kloud, you express extreme confidence in BG being scum. (Ignoring the fact that I disagree with you) This should mean you have extreme confidence that I am town. Yet you express some suspicion for me, too. This makes no sense.

Why is this?

reborn537 · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:28 pm

Xtoxm wrote:Kloud, you express extreme confidence in BG being scum. (Ignoring the fact that I disagree with you) This should mean you have extreme confidence that I am town. Yet you express some suspicion for me, too. This makes no sense.

Why is this?

Scum lovers are possible. Let's not talk as if it's ruled out.

Also, I apologise for our little run in a few pages back... things got a bit heated and, well, nevermind I guess. It's only a game.

hasdgfas · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:32 pm

The "I'm going to check if anyone needs a prod after I finish this" vote count:

thinktank 1 vote: (LlamaFluff)
Elvis Knits 2 vote: (Inspector Godot, GhostWriter)
Rockatansky 1 vote: (thinktank)
reborn537 5 vote: (xtoxm, elvis_knits, Rockatansky, Save The Dragons, kmd4390)
Xtoxm 1 vote: (kloud1516)
kloud1516 1 vote: (RestFermata)

Not voting:

reborn537

With 12 people it take 7 votes for lynch
Day 1 ends Sept 3rd 4:00pm PST.