Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)

[Fidget]

Okay, I still want to hear from others but I’m starting to kind of mindmeld on this. Alright. if Fidget and Sneasel are okay with this pairing, I’m onboard.

Yes, I think if the consensus is that Sneasel is towny, then I support Akarin-Sneasel. I think they're both far more likely town than null, although Uncrowned is still by far my favorite. And if, say, Akarin is scum, my reads are probably doomed to begin with.

I TR him but he is not good enough for my daughter Akarin

Frankly he sounds like a crazy person.

Hahahaha.

HURT WITH A BLADE: pooky

PoE

gloria is giving off those obvtown vibes especially with her pressing onto pooky, akarin is solvey enough, unc is conftown, hectic i need to re-engage with when he's back, fidget on a whimsical reread of iso has garned a TR from me through effort-y, proactive posting style, necessary I townleaned before my flake but the iso i'd be willing to townlean through pressure towards pooky, rainbow is lurking

I could see shelly being town here, although I cannot be sure. The vast majority of us are town, so it follows that the large majority of townreads will be correct and agreed upon. Hrm..

When we do start pairing up, instead of pairing top townreads first, I kind of think we should pair from the middle pairs until we hit scum, then reevaluate for the last few.

akarin is scum because the four pages between this & her last post are filled with actual content and this is a really peculiar moment to pop in with a mech comment - go back and reread from her last post to this one and tell me you think an akarin who is reading and trying to solve the game makes this post without commenting on anything else

unconscious guilt over me saying I was going to trust her is showing

bet on it.

Oh okay, so much for this pairing. I think this read is completely and utterly insane, though, Sneasel.

[Gloria Cleary]

If Pooky is scum, he could possibly be setting up his buddy to be trusted and escape and him play the long game by suddenly fake towning it up? With everyone having him at bottom of his PoE, would be a great way for he and his buddy to distance imo.

He could also be town deliberately playing scummy to reach endgame. He does seem to be genuinely annoyed at Sneasel despite him being correct on setup spec but I’ve also seen him be annoyed as scum in Hideyoshi, so that in itself is NIA.

I’m not really sure what is going on with him and Jake. Did Jake want Pooky to make her a trust offer because she never made one formally to him.

HURT: RR No way town has either us so low.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

With Pooky, it's tricky. Usually I would expect him to seize hold of a gamestate as scum, whereas as town he might just do whatever. In this game though, I am not sure. You aren't really obligated to do anything except for get trusted, as both alignments, really. Figuring out who we shouldn't trust is helpful, but technically the bare minimum a townie must do is be trusted.

Pooky can get away with not reading people terribly much and just messing around as either alignment.. I'm not sure what to expect. I'm gut-worried that the messing around, setting up couples without much game substance and all that he's doing is faked, but I don't have much in the way of reasoning or why I think that exactly

I am deeply offended that you believe I have nothing but the most honorable intentions for my daughters.

[Fidget]

don't slander me I have no reads

rainbow reads weakly town because I don't feel like they're trying to look town (this is a setup which necessitates scum being very likeable), so much as doing things which they need to do as town. their iso is very undersold.

jake has done nothing in this game

I feel the opposite way about Rainbow. They've been bringing out flashy readslists, but in reality they haven't really done anything to further town wincon with them at all. After all, they haven't really shown us their work, no? So it really only gives us the vague impression that Rainbow is solving, without them actually having to show us any of their solving.

If you want someone who isn't trying to look town, I'd point to Jake for that from what I can remember.

[Gloria Cleary]

With Pooky, it's tricky. Usually I would expect him to seize hold of a gamestate as scum, whereas as town he might just do whatever. In this game though, I am not sure. You aren't really obligated to do anything except for get trusted, as both alignments, really. Figuring out who we shouldn't trust is helpful, but technically the bare minimum a townie must do is be trusted.

Pooky can get away with not reading people terribly much and just messing around as either alignment.. I'm not sure what to expect. I'm gut-worried that the messing around, setting up couples without much game substance and all that he's doing is faked, but I don't have much in the way of reasoning or why I think that exactly

I am deeply offended that you believe I have nothing but the most honorable intentions for my daughters.

If you hurt Fidget, I will definitely hurt you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would never hurt my daughter Gloria.

[Fidget]

If Pooky is scum, he could possibly be setting up his buddy to be trusted and escape and him play the long game by suddenly fake towning it up? With everyone having him at bottom of his PoE, would be a great way for he and his buddy to distance imo.

He could also be town deliberately playing scummy to reach endgame. He does seem to be genuinely annoyed at Sneasel despite him being correct on setup spec but I’ve also seen him be annoyed as scum in Hideyoshi, so that in itself is NIA.

I’m not really sure what is going on with him and Jake. Did Jake want Pooky to make her a trust offer because she never made one formally to him.

HURT: RR No way town has either us so low.

I don't think Sneasel is correct on the setup spec.. yes, Pooky is scum with Uncrowned if they don't partner... but the only way to derive Pooky as scum from that is if Uncrowned is assumed to be scum.

It doesn't really make any sense..

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the problem with being a dad with rambunctious girls is they don't believe you have their best interests at heart when you do background checks on their potential suitors.

[Fidget]

Was I unknowingly adopted by Pooky during my absence? I'm not opposed to it or anything, just curious.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes,

anyone who asks for you or Akarin's hand must first get permission from me or I will take out my trusty shotgun.

[Gloria Cleary]

the problem with being a dad with rambunctious girls is they don't believe you have their best interests at heart when you do background checks on their potential suitors.

lmfaooooooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If fidget or akarin sneak out at night behind my back and end up dating the wrong sort of man I will literally flip out.

[Fidget]

Sneasel, you're going to need to do more than discredit reasons for Akarin being townread in order to prove she is scum. Townreads, I feel, are going to be inherently weak since there is A.) no elimination mechanic, B.) many many absences, and C.) no flips yet.

So far, I have only noticed your insane Freudian unconscious guilt theory on why Akarin is scum here. Do you have more?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am deeply alarmed that my daughters insist on speaking with the crazy guy.

I wonder if it's worth going to jail to kill him.

[Fidget]

Yes,

anyone who asks for you or Akarin's hand must first get permission from me or I will take out my trusty shotgun.

If fidget or akarin sneak out at night behind my back and end up dating the wrong sort of man I will literally flip out.

I will... keep all of that in mind.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Are your fingers crossed behind your back young lady?

[Gloria Cleary]

If Pooky is scum, he could possibly be setting up his buddy to be trusted and escape and him play the long game by suddenly fake towning it up? With everyone having him at bottom of his PoE, would be a great way for he and his buddy to distance imo.

He could also be town deliberately playing scummy to reach endgame. He does seem to be genuinely annoyed at Sneasel despite him being correct on setup spec but I’ve also seen him be annoyed as scum in Hideyoshi, so that in itself is NIA.

I’m not really sure what is going on with him and Jake. Did Jake want Pooky to make her a trust offer because she never made one formally to him.

HURT: RR No way town has either us so low.

I don't think Sneasel is correct on the setup spec.. yes, Pooky is scum with Uncrowned if they don't partner... but the only way to derive Pooky as scum from that is if Uncrowned is assumed to be scum.

It doesn't really make any sense..

No, I only mean the part about scum being guiltied if they trust each other. Not his theory concerning Pooky/Uncrowned. Uncrowned is very likely town though.

[Gloria Cleary]

I am deeply alarmed that my daughters insist on speaking with the crazy guy.

I wonder if it's worth going to jail to kill him.

I’m nomming Pooky for an Oscar whatever he is this game.

[Fidget]

Are your fingers crossed behind your back young lady?

My paws aren't really capable of doing that, I promise.

Fidget is still cute. Has been generally towny.

Oh come on.

No problems with the rest of Akarins readslist, though.

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Dang, are you ever gonna explain any of these?

[Fidget]

No, I only mean the part about scum being guiltied if they trust each other. Not his theory concerning Pooky/Uncrowned. Uncrowned is very likely town though.

Oh. I see.

This is how I'm feeling currently. No heavy review, just from catching up. I want to believe I've got both scum below the dash, but beyond that, not so confident.

{Uncrowned}
{Akarin, Sneasel}
{Gloria}
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{Hectic}
{shelly}
{Rainbow, Jake, Pooky}

[Gloria Cleary]

Pooky, do you want to fall into my arms?

Pooky if you don't fall into my arms I'm going to drop kick you to the floor

Oh, and I suggested we pair Rainbow+Jake first.

Read my ISO for me explaining it over and over to Gloria, I think I eventually explained why well enough.

This does not appear to be the popular choice.

@Fidget, I wonder if it’s exactly RR/Jake?

[Gloria Cleary]

HURT: RR HURT: Jake

[Rainbow Reads]

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

[Gloria Cleary]

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