Open 86 - Lovers Multiball (Game Over)

kloud1516 · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:33 am

Responding to prod. Sorry everyone, I have been slipping behind in several games, and so I am trying to get back into things. Weekdays are crazy for me.

A couple of things I need to address:

1) I said in my previous posts that several others stood out to me besides pwnz for similar reasons. RR has made cases against almost all of the players I found to be suspicious upon reading the thread in order to jump into the game, and so while I have not yet had time to make cases of my own, I must say that I find much of what RR has provided to be logical reasoning.

2) I am not really understanding the "OF is full of crap" wagon that is going on right now. Could someone please explain this to me, for I thought his case made sense.

3) I am trying to make cases to provide to the game, but the thread is moving so quickly that is hard to keep up with the limited access I am experiencing. Bear with me.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:01 pm

Basically, OF is deliberately misinterpreting Crazy's posts in particular, and is trying to jump onto a wagon that already died yesterday. His case makes sense, right up until you read the posts before and after those he "creatively interprets".

Crazy · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:06 pm

Knight of Cydonia wrote:Basically, OF is deliberately misinterpreting Crazy's posts in particular, and is trying to jump onto a wagon that already died yesterday. His case makes sense, right up until you read the posts before and after those he "creatively interprets".

No. The case on OF is because he voted me for assuming that Adel was town in regards to the scum-tell. He claimed to not know what the scum-tell was, so how would he even know if it would clear someone of being town or not?

SleepyPanda · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:43 pm

Quick post before school.

Crazy wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:Basically, OF is deliberately misinterpreting Crazy's posts in particular, and is trying to jump onto a wagon that already died yesterday. His case makes sense, right up until you read the posts before and after those he "creatively interprets".
No. The case on OF is because he voted me for assuming that Adel was town in regards to the scum-tell. He claimed to not know what the scum-tell was, so how would he even know if it would clear someone of being town or not?

I still think that's extremely weak if your case is only built on that. I didn't know your scumtell when you mentioned it and I was fairly certain it wouldn't clear someone completely. Even Adel's super secret scumtell was based on speculation. It's not foolproof. Tell me one scumtell that would clear someone 100%, not just in this game, in any. If mafia is that easy, I don't think anyone would play.

kloud1516 · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:47 pm

SleepyPanda wrote:Quick post before school.

Crazy wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:Basically, OF is deliberately misinterpreting Crazy's posts in particular, and is trying to jump onto a wagon that already died yesterday. His case makes sense, right up until you read the posts before and after those he "creatively interprets".
No. The case on OF is because he voted me for assuming that Adel was town in regards to the scum-tell. He claimed to not know what the scum-tell was, so how would he even know if it would clear someone of being town or not?
I still think that's extremely weak if your case is only built on that. I didn't know your scumtell when you mentioned it and I was fairly certain it wouldn't clear someone completely. Even Adel's super secret scumtell was based on speculation. It's not foolproof. Tell me one scumtell that would clear someone 100%, not just in this game, in any. If mafia is that easy, I don't think anyone would play.

QFT.

SleepyPanda · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:48 pm

Knight of Cydonia wrote:Basically, OF is deliberately misinterpreting Crazy's posts in particular, and is trying to jump onto a wagon that already died yesterday. His case makes sense, right up until you read the posts before and after those he "creatively interprets".

Why can a wagon not be restarted? Once a wagon dies, that person is lynch-immune? I agree that from what I skimmed of OF's post, it seemed like he was making quite a bit of assumptions, but I don't see how trying to start a wagon again is scummy in itself, especially when people only got off Crazy's wagon to pursue other's that were more scummy.

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:17 pm

While I disagree with OF's case, I don't see what about it makes him all that scummy. Not sure at all that his misconseption of Crazy's read on Adel was delibarate.

Thanks for changing avatars, knight.

Crazy · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:51 pm

If you don't like my OF case, then look at my second suspect:

Cephrir wrote:@Crazy: I was thinking scum might buddy up to their entire group instead of just their lover, by accident, or something like that. I honestly forget exactly why/what I was thinking exactly, but I think it was something like that based on my daytalk.

Like I said, it didn't seem amazing. Although, it turns out the actual tell isn't that amazing anyway.

Anyone buy this? At all? That someone could forget what they were thinking the scum-tell was?

ISO · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:56 am

My next week will be a bit crazy. I'll be reading and posting but don't expect incredible insights.

armlx · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:26 am

Why can a wagon not be restarted? Once a wagon dies, that person is lynch-immune? I agree that from what I skimmed of OF's post, it seemed like he was making quite a bit of assumptions, but I don't see how trying to start a wagon again is scummy in itself, especially when people only got off Crazy's wagon to pursue other's that were more scummy.

This is exactly what is confusing me, though I'm only 20ish pages in.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:31 am

It's not that he was trying to start a wagon again, it's just the fact he was using almost entirely the same evidence as from the original wagon - most of which can be fairly dismissed as already having been explained away, or just plain bullcrap.

armlx · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:36 am

It's not that he was trying to start a wagon again, it's just the fact he was using almost entirely the same evidence as from the original wagon - most of which can be fairly dismissed as already having been explained away, or just plain bullcrap.

But the first wagon almost resulted in a lynch, and only barely fizzled. How is the evidence suddenly irrel.

sekinj · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:20 am

armlx wrote:
It's not that he was trying to start a wagon again, it's just the fact he was using almost entirely the same evidence as from the original wagon - most of which can be fairly dismissed as already having been explained away, or just plain bullcrap.
But the first wagon almost resulted in a lynch, and only barely fizzled. How is the evidence suddenly irrel.

Maybe you'll find that out if you keep reading. Also, it's not like you replaced in recently. You should have been keeping up with the game for a while now.

armlx · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:23 am

Maybe you'll find that out if you keep reading. Also, it's not like you replaced in recently. You should have been keeping up with the game for a while now.

Moving into college is going to interfere with my rereading tonight or tomorrow.

sekinj · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:34 am

armlx wrote:
Maybe you'll find that out if you keep reading. Also, it's not like you replaced in recently. You should have been keeping up with the game for a while now.

Moving into college is going to interfere with my rereading tonight or tomorrow.

Great. I hope it interfers with you posting irrelevant content as well.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:50 am

Mod: Please replace me. School's starting again, and I just won't be able to keep up with this game.

armlx · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:03 am

Great. I hope it interfers with you posting irrelevant content as well.

sekinj · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 am

@armlx - great. you've gone from irrelevant content to no content. nice.

Crazy · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:59 am

I find it ironic that you're the one nitpicking about irrelevant content.

SleepyPanda · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:00 am

sekinj wrote:@armlx - great. you've gone from irrelevant content to no content. nice.

Coming from the person who's last 5-6 posts are one liners with no content as well.

Why are you so adverse to having him post early game content? When you build a case on someone, do you skip over all Day 1 posts?

armlx · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:26 am

Why are you so adverse to having him post early game content? When you build a case on someone, do you skip over all Day 1 posts?

This is still my stance towards those criticizing me for my recent posts.

Battle Mage · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:34 am

sekinj wrote:@armlx - great. you've gone from irrelevant content to no content. nice.

Agreed. Is it policy lynch time yet?

Vote: Armlx

BM

*PS: Hope he doesn't turn out to be my Lover. rofl!

armlx · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:35 am

Where did you come from? I'm confused.

sekinj · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:40 am

@Crazy: Point taken, I saw this coming. However, there is a difference between joking and bringing up expired issues to confuse the current topics. One is neutral the other is not pro-town.

@sleepy: because he is asking the same questions and bringing up the same points we've been over a million times. If he wants to do it one big block, I really don't have a problem with that, but to bring up old stuff post after post and force the rest of us to re-read questions and answers we've already been over is not getting us anywhere. If he did it in one big block, he could answer half of his own questions along the way. I welcome armiz of anyone to bring up NEW points from Day 1, but this game is huge enough as it it without re-hashing everything we've already done.

Crazy · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:47 am

sekinj wrote:@Crazy: Point taken, I saw this coming. However, there is a difference between joking and bringing up expired issues to confuse the current topics. One is neutral the other is not pro-town.

I was referring to your case against me that one time, saying that I was making up the scum-tell when I had already posted what I thought it was.