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[Hopkirk]

So if Hopkirk is a real doctor enabler then it's weird because why didn't they bring this up yesterday, like if you know you're a doctor enabler then it seems unlikely there'd be one of these just for one doctor.

But then if they were mafia it seems pointless to fake claim that just to protect derp, like surely just let them get eliminated? So I think Hopkirk and derp are probably both real.

UNVOTE:

I looked at the list of past setups. There has been enables for just one doctor several times. There has NEVER been two doctors in one game. That's why I said 'is two doctors possible in a normal' because it has literally never happened before in a mini normal.

[nopointinactingup]

So if Hopkirk is a real doctor enabler then it's weird because why didn't they bring this up yesterday, like if you know you're a doctor enabler then it seems unlikely there'd be one of these just for one doctor.

But then if they were mafia it seems pointless to fake claim that just to protect derp, like surely just let them get eliminated? So I think Hopkirk and derp are probably both real.

UNVOTE:

I looked at the list of past setups.

Link to this?

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Flub

I buy the claim. Was the softclaim I spotted for doc intended?

The post I quoted and said made PJ 'obvtown' was because I thought he was softing doctor. Also, this kind of implies I know there's a doctor.

Is two doctors impossible in a normal?

Odd question for anyone not an enabler.

My preference would be to vote NP at this point and leave both for the minute tbh, but there's not exactly a lot of people online.

I wanted to leave them both alive, then had to just take the risk we hit PJ.

VOTE: derp

If it's two doctors we were screwed from the start by setup norms tbh because in any given game a fake claim is leagues more likely than it being the first one in over a thousand games to break a norm, then the norm breaking game becomes essentially a free win for mafia. I've already voted out one person I townread prior to claims, what's another one.

Two doctors hasn't happened in a normal, as far as I can tell, ever. Duplicate power roles essentially never happens too (unless one is a scum variant). D1 I was feeling like... Is this a two doctor game, I really feel like it could be, but there's no way I'm not voting the cc. If it's two docs then we're just screwed.

I rethought things after this. Initially I was thinking there's no way this is two doctors, then while I was finishing a play through of 'Finding Paradise', a game that Hectic had recommended to me back in July, I decided it seemed like something I'd do as a mod since a lot of the other enabler setups were really uninteresting, along with the mod response to my question, Derp's play making no sense from scum, and it just feeling right.

[Hopkirk]

So if Hopkirk is a real doctor enabler then it's weird because why didn't they bring this up yesterday, like if you know you're a doctor enabler then it seems unlikely there'd be one of these just for one doctor.

But then if they were mafia it seems pointless to fake claim that just to protect derp, like surely just let them get eliminated? So I think Hopkirk and derp are probably both real.

UNVOTE:

I looked at the list of past setups.

Link to this?

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=15732

On the one side, 2100 games without 2 doctors.
On the other side, a hunch.

No reason not for me to claim here since either way I'm essentially useless the moment a doctor claims.

[nopointinactingup]

Also if derp's was mafia, he'd have to do it to protect someone or many people from one of the prominent wagons, which is one of the Nora, trendall and me.

VC 1.7

PlusJOYED (3)

- derp, JohnnyFarrar, Glitch

Noraa (2)

- nopointinactingup, Keita

nopointinactingup (2)

- Hiraki, Trendall

Trendall (2)

- Flubbernugget, PlusJOYED

Keita (1)

- Noraa

Flubbernugget (1)

- Hopkirk

No Elimination (1)

- Staarling

Not Voting (3)

- beeboy

VC 1.8

PlusJOYED (7)

- derp, JohnnyFarrar, Glitch, Hiraki, Flubbernugget, Noraa, Hopkirk

Noraa (2)

- nopointinactingup, Keita

nopointinactingup (1)

- Trendall

Flubbernugget (1)

- PlusJOYED

No Elimination (1)

- Staarling

Not Voting (1)

- The Slime Collective

It takes 7 votes to hammer, meaning PlusJOYED has been eliminated

[nopointinactingup]

For now VOTE: Nora

[Noraa]

Is two doctors impossible in a normal?

It’s possible

This scared me so bad. I slightly believe there are two doctors. That cc really just didn't make sense and if it came from scum, it legit was a super dangerous gambit.

[Noraa]

Quack (wait I'm not duckyboi)

Worstie where you at?

Right now I'm confident Staarling is Hectic and the whole push for no vote yesterday and not being online at end of day is strictly a terrible look for an experienced player to take.

I kinda believe Staarling is Hectic. Theres some setup spec that doesnt seem to come from a newbie and a lot of other stuff. Not completely sure tho.

Hopkirk, you were the hammer vote on Plusjoy yesterday, not Plusjoy herself. That action made no sense for your claim, this is why I'm not inclined to believe you.

Gonna reserve my vote for now to prevent possibility of a flash lynch. But my suspicion is definitely on derp and Hopkirk

Bruh? Derp/Hopkirk is the stupidest solve possible. One put his life on the line cc'ing a doc for ??? reason and the other put his life on the line saving the one that cc'ed. Like BRUH. If either of them flips red, we all immediately jump on the other. This would be extremely dangerous play if they were both scum. Like legit.

Derp if you have questions, you ask. You dont go I need to hear more about her fishy stuff.

[The Slime Collective]

ego
~vanilla ice cream with crème fraîche slime

[Noraa]

ego
~vanilla ice cream with crème fraîche slime

who this O_o

[nopointinactingup]

derp/hopkirk is a very possible solution. derp claims to get the doctor lynched and hopkirk gambits himself because the scum team thinks his cc sounds believable enough to prevent a derp lynch. It's a high risk high reward play but I don't think it's impossible. It would in fact explain hopkirk's vote for Plusjoyed yesterday

[nopointinactingup]

Also, looking through the finished mini games, I'm realizing that hopkirk could also be mafia doctor enabler with derp being a goon. In that case hopkirk would have an incentive to get himself lynched, and thus probably would be the one to counterclaim Plusjoy instead of derp if they were on the same team.

The scenario of hopkirk mafia doctor enabler with derp town doctor is more terrifying, since if we don't lynch derp today, he will wrongly protect hopkirk every night and town is likely to lose the game in the end.

[nopointinactingup]

So if Hopkirk is a real doctor enabler then it's weird because why didn't they bring this up yesterday, like if you know you're a doctor enabler then it seems unlikely there'd be one of these just for one doctor.

But then if they were mafia it seems pointless to fake claim that just to protect derp, like surely just let them get eliminated? So I think Hopkirk and derp are probably both real.

UNVOTE:

I looked at the list of past setups.

Link to this?

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=15732

On the one side, 2100 games without 2 doctors.
On the other side, a hunch.

No reason not for me to claim here since either way I'm essentially useless the moment a doctor claims.

The very fact that hopkirk is linking me to that list is townish, but not very sure why he didn't mention the mafia doctor enabler role, which jumps at you when you're looking through the set up.

[Noraa]

Nopo being this concerned with setup is interesting and I would say perhaps its town indicative? As someone that never does setup spec no matter what, I dont understand it that hot but I do think that setup spec comes from town more than scum bc scum dont want town to know anymore about the setup than they started out with(basically nothing).
A lot of people SR this slot and honestly speaking, I dont see much wrong with this slot. They seem EH. Can someone make a case on him or reassess because I feel like I'm starting to TR this slot and I need some other opinions to help clear up my read.

[The Slime Collective]

Does anybody want me to ISO anyone?
-green slime

[Hopkirk]

derp/hopkirk is a very possible solution. derp claims to get the doctor lynched and hopkirk gambits himself because the scum team thinks his cc sounds believable enough to prevent a derp lynch. It's a high risk high reward play but I don't think it's impossible. It would in fact explain hopkirk's vote for Plusjoyed yesterday

I really don't think it's high reward. It's essentially the same as 2 mafia members claiming to be neighbours (not quite masons) D1 for very little reason. It feels like all risk because if we're mafia then there's other power roles who'd be able to prove we were lying later. Both scum doesn't make sense because we know for 100% that one doctor isn't the full list of town PRS

I really don't get why I'd point out there's been a mafia enabler. I'm only concerned with enabler/doctor/doctor not having happened and doc/doc not having happened, and whether it feels likely based on that. Where does other setups featuring an enabler remotely come into it for me?

@slimeruralcommune - I'd like your thoughts on clubber and Jonny yeah.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: flubber if I forgot to earlier

[Noraa]

@slimeruralcommune - I'd like your thoughts on clubber and Jonny yeah.

has slime even said anything game related? Also who'd they replace?

[Noraa]

VOTE: flubber if I forgot to earlier

eggggggsplainn

[Hopkirk]

Me and Plus agreed flubber was a really bad slot yesterday and I wanted to wagon him. I tried instead of voting between docs initially before giving up. My iso has many reasons I dislike the slot. I'm not needlessly restating stuff that you could read if you wanted to because I'm phoneposting.

[Hopkirk]

@slimeruralcommune - I'd like your thoughts on clubber and Jonny yeah.

has slime even said anything game related? Also who'd they replace?

They've said 'anyone want me to iso anyone'.

I don't get why you're asking the question here, can you explain what you meant/why you were asking?

They replaced Bob who I had minor pings from.

[The Slime Collective]

@slimeruralcommune - I'd like your thoughts on clubber and Jonny yeah.

has slime even said anything game related? Also who'd they replace?

We replaced beeboy during the night.
-green slime

[Hopkirk]

oh, I was mixing Bee/Bop up. Less important, but still useful to get another POV

[Noraa]

Me and Plus

*puts on grammar teacher glasses*

[Noraa]

They've said 'anyone want me to iso anyone'.

I saw the "I'd" as "I"