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[Infinity 324]

The soft was pretty obvious, what I'm wondering is how he knew it was a JK/rb. I thought it was cop tbh

[Uncrowned]

I mean I don't think we can really blame JV for missing stuff given the circumstances. I think I'd be missing a bunch of shit too if I had the last couple of days they've had

[JacksonVirgo]

Short version? Lied to a question, I called them out, they retracted and said the supposed "truth" this time thus they were lying by omission and their tone via the first answer leaves absolutely no hints at all of alterior motives even though they had one. Tone surrounding me calling them out literally is a dumpster fire compared to their posts before that and as soon as people starting backing them up their tone returned.

if they lied and you called it out and it was very obvious they lied, why do you think you've gotten like no traction there on your push?

Because people are town!biasing them or not reading into my reads because I'm not anywhere near the top or even the top-middle of the town and I tend to get ignored for my point above of not being able to really word things well.

Happens all the time

[skitter30]

Something feels a little off about this ^

I dont like it either but what's your reasoning?

Feels like a bandwagon-y vote no matter what alignment mena is

If mena's town they're just sliding on another vote and making it that much easier for the day to end when multiple said we're not ready for that yet.

And if mena's scum it just feels like they're trying to make sure they're on wagon before a flip

Like the vote feels like they wants to be on the wagon, not like they are votimg because they think/want mena to flip scum, if that makes sense

[Menalque]

you're talking about the peta unvote on uncrowned and pivot onto infinity, right?

[JacksonVirgo]

you're talking about the peta unvote on uncrowned and pivot onto infinity, right?

About the lying thing? No?

[Menalque]

I wonder if (TPG, peta, ...) is a possibility here

[Menalque]

you're talking about the peta unvote on uncrowned and pivot onto infinity, right?

About the lying thing? No?

where am I looking in his ISO then?

[JacksonVirgo]

you're talking about the peta unvote on uncrowned and pivot onto infinity, right?

About the lying thing? No?

where am I looking in his ISO then?

Hold up I'll link you to one of my walls on peta

[Menalque]

I mean I don't think we can really blame JV for missing stuff given the circumstances. I think I'd be missing a bunch of shit too if I had the last couple of days they've had

yea I mean, that's a fair point but like JV is an intelligent player so the doc thing set me worrying more than the other bits

[Menalque]

skitter, can you talk about your JV townread please?

[skitter30]

Mena i'm starting to get really tired/frustrated that you keep swiping at me.

I dont really get why you're scumreading me, and i dont feel like you're trying to sort me

I'm not 100% convinced that you're scum here (in fact i think that all of this you're posting e-1 is more likely than not coming from town, if we ignore the mechanics of it all) and i would like to at least get to a point wherr i'm comfortable with my read on you before we wnd the day.

I really dont like your scumread on me tho, it doesnt make much sense to me

[Menalque]

I'm now considering a solve of (TGP, peta, dunn, infinity)

[Menalque]

yes, I'm obviously aware that one name in there must be wrong

[Uncrowned]

I just have a real icky feeling about TGP in general tbh

The whole part where they default to Hoopla and then gets on a wagon once one has picked up looks like an attempt to show active voting/hunting although Hoopla hasn't been at the forefront of the game in what feels like forever at this point, like probably 40 pages ago or more?

But then when we have these crucial moments (DGB and Mena now, I'd say) they have almost nothing to say other than getting on the wagon?

[Menalque]

I'm now considering a solve of (TGP, peta, dunn, infinity)

to be clear, I'm not saying this is the solve but I'm saying I'm considering it alongside my earlier suggested solve/PoE

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait I swear I made a case with links and all that

pedit: What makes you think I'm an intelligent player Mena, I don't recall ever playing many if any games with you.

[skitter30]

Lilith, is there a reason you're still not really playing ... ?

Like i get that you're claiming a semi-guilty on mena but you're doing like nothing else and your play still doesnt look like town and i'm running out of reasons why i should continue giving that a pass

[skitter30]

But then when we have these crucial moments (DGB and Mena now, I'd say) they have almost nothing to say other than getting on the wagon?

Yes, that's my point

[Uncrowned]

I'm not sure TGP/Infinity would be together judging by TGP's posting about how everyone should get off the DGB wagon and go after Infinity on D1.

But then again... they ended up going back on that decision almost immediately which is why I'm sussing them in the first place so it could be a possibility.

[Menalque]

Mena i'm starting to get really tired/frustrated that you keep swiping at me.

I dont really get why you're scumreading me, and i dont feel like you're trying to sort me

I'm not 100% convinced that you're scum here (in fact i think that all of this you're posting e-1 is more likely than not coming from town, if we ignore the mechanics of it all) and i would like to at least get to a point wherr i'm comfortable with my read on you before we wnd the day.

I really dont like your scumread on me tho, it doesnt make much sense to me

where do you think I'm doing this? I am uncomfortable with you SRing me and that you entered the day pushing me, and with the fact that you've been linked (imo) with infinity

I'm still trying to treat you in good faith and work with you as much as possible, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to be 100% comfortable with you when I wouldn't necessarily expect you to have been SRing me to the point that I was the main person you wanted dead D2 and this is me trying to reconcile that

I'm not sure what exactly my read is on you. for one thing, idk if you as scum would unvote me when you did, but equally I think you might have if you were worried me pointing the finger at you while dying would bring unwanted attention

I'm kinda around although my class is just restarting now, but I want to try to work with you today even if idk at this point whether I will be able to get to a solid TR on you?

[skitter30]

skitter, can you talk about your JV townread please?

Not a hard townread, but i like their peta push / continuity in the thought process behind the push and their logic and reasoning for pushing there at daystart, it felt like it was somethijg that was bugging them overnight so they wanted to be sure to start there again today (and idk if scum is so single-focused on a push like that)

I

[Menalque]

Wait I swear I made a case with links and all that

pedit: What makes you think I'm an intelligent player Mena, I don't recall ever playing many if any games with you.

well you have a 7-1 town win set from your google sheets records page so I'm assuming you're not an idiot

also you've been around on-site for a while and I just get that vibe from your posting this game

[Menalque]

maybe intelligent is wrong? you seem competent as either alignment so that makes me unsure if you'd really forget which version of doctor we have on this site

[Menalque]

Mena i'm starting to get really tired/frustrated that you keep swiping at me.

like I'm sorry you feel this way but I don't think it's fair of you to expect me to be town reading you here really, and given that I'm not (I'm v conflicted on you) I don't think it's fair to expect me to not express that unease that I'm feeling to the rest of the thread