Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

[MiniVirgo]

My general plan is to PL N_M, and if they flip red, shelly's on the block and if they flip green Johnny's on the block.

Just what is on my mind right now.

- JV

[shellyc]

My general plan is to PL N_M, and if they flip red, shelly's on the block and if they flip green Johnny's on the block.

Just what is on my mind right now.

- JV

eh it's fine I guess except there's not much value for scum!me to preserve scum!NM if you think of it that way

re: froppy i want you to consider my world instead of like. deflecting towards something else yet not stating what that something else is

[shellyc]

EBWOP: re: froppy i want you to consider my world or tell me what your world is instead of like. deflecting towards something else yet not stating what that something else is

[MiniVirgo]

My general plan is to PL N_M, and if they flip red, shelly's on the block and if they flip green Johnny's on the block.

Just what is on my mind right now.

- JV

eh it's fine I guess except there's not much value for scum!me to preserve scum!NM if you think of it that way

re: froppy i want you to consider my world instead of like. deflecting towards something else yet not stating what that something else is

Losing a buddy is like losing 33% of a mafia team. There is a lot of value to preserve them.

- JV

[shellyc]

JV why are you TRing the froppy slot

[MiniVirgo]

JV why are you TRing the froppy slot

I remember them acting like this as town in my game I hosted, I think it was the Hard Boiled game I hosted that they were in and they're just replaced in more or less.

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

Gotta have dinner, be back after

[shellyc]

I remember them acting like this as town in my game I hosted, I think it was the Hard Boiled game I hosted that they were in and they're just replaced in more or less.

so cautiousness = personality for them?

ehhhhh I'm gonna take a look at that game later

[MiniVirgo]

I looked over their iso in the game and there's a difference but that was ages ago so maybe their meta changed, either way I don't think Froppy is scum.

Gut tells me that

- JV

[ManWithNoName]

Let's not PL N_M right now.

Why not? When does it happen then?

I've always been of the opinion that you policy the Miltank when you have no strong suspicions elsewhere. If you do have a reasonable scumread, you should launch there rather than take the policy launch.

I still have no way of reading him, so he's just a random 1/4 every time for me.

I haven't caught up yet, but I want to look at Johnny, and also want to look at yessire's reads, and whether he did anything that would make scum assume he was a PR - in which case we give the reads less consideration.

Day 1. And since there's no time machine, just busses.

A bus time machine would be ridiculous. You can use a hot tub, or a Delorean, but not a bus.

[ManWithNoName]

Day 2

- 3v8.

Day 3

- 3v6

Day 5

- 3v4, lylo

If we don't lynch scum, we have literally today or tomorrow to yeet N_M.

- JV

Fine, math proves me wrong again. The eternal enemy of a lawyer.

[ManWithNoName]

Gotta have dinner, be back after

How dare you.

[ManWithNoName]

How does everyone feel about hypclaiming the dead one as green? We have two slots that I have done that, if I recall correctly.

It could be more, because I sure as hell am not bothering to check.

[shellyc]

MWNN what do you think about the elbirn slot rn

[shellyc]

How does everyone feel about hypclaiming the dead one as green? We have two slots that I have done that, if I recall correctly.

exposes a higher chance of not cop since hypoclaiming on a living target can easily backfire

[ManWithNoName]

MWNN what do you think about the elbirn slot rn

Uninspiring. Could be hiding scum.

I just don't remember Elbirn being particularly inspiring in past games, but I have to check because I might be thinking of a different player.

That being said, I kind of remember him being pretty solid as scum if it's the same person I am thinking of in Civilization V mafia. So, it's kind of a wash in terms of whether the uninspiring nature is a scum or town indicative for Elbirn. Also, that must have been something like two years ago, so play could certainly change since then.

I'm sticking with uninspiring. But, not really to the point where I want to eliminate there.

[ManWithNoName]

I feel like my town block of Minivirgo, Bingle and A50 is pretty good.

A50 might be my most controversial option there, but, I keep seeing games where people think he's scum and I don't see it, and then I'm right, like in the aforementioned Civilization V mafia.

[Nandor the Relentless]

Elbirn's only take with reasons this game has been MiniVirgo scum because they're pushing miselim bait in Big Elephant/shelly. What are your townreads, or other suspicions, Elbirn?

My pool is [Not_Mafia, Johnny, Elbirn, Prof, Froppy]

I don't have a read on Froppy yet though.

[Nandor the Relentless]

I really don't like A50 here. Shelly push yesterday, refuting claims that she's bait, and putting the l-1 vote on derp AFTER being warned about NM lolhammers AND acknowledging the potential for one while voting. And then he just forgets his "lolhammers are a scum claim" position today and ignores NM entirely.

VOTE: A50 if NM is scum here, this is his partner.

I quite like this take from Johnny. I don't agree with it, but I think the logic is townyishingy

[JohnnyFarrar]

Johnny scumreads me

Yo dog I said I was unwilling to vote you like 3 posts prior. And this sheep me til I'm wrong nonsense doesn't work, you were already wrong on derp.

Here lemme do it your way so it doesn't look like 'fencesitting' even though I still don't have hard and fast reads on everyone

Town->scum

Bingle. (TOWN)
MiniV
Shelly
Mwnn (NULL)
N_M
Froppy
Elberin=Nandor (SCUM)
ProfMaf
A50

[Nandor the Relentless]

Looked over Elbirn's last two games (both town), and he was very engaged and proactive in solving in both.

VOTE: Elbirn

[Nandor the Relentless]

as for johnnyfarrar they are a player in this game that much I can say for certain. do you have a more direct question perhaps? prod me into a good direction

yeah. ok challenge 1 sort these names from town -> scum

Professor Mafia
A50
MiniVirgo
MWNN
JohnnyFarrar

probably somewhere like

MWNN
A50=johnny?
Prof
mini

or I'm just mad at mini for shit like:

Spicy take. Not_Mafia and Elbirn are scum together and they formulated that plan to get mad at them to distance.
Also A50 is v big wrinkler brain for putting them at L-1 while at the same time inviting N_M to hammer.
- JV

mini was town reading me yesterday but now they're floating bait like this? nah

what other reasons you got for MiniVirgo scum? you retracted your previous reasoning here:

UNVOTE:

on God there was minivirgo posts like "shelly is bait" and "I townread shelly" and then suddenly "heres a case on shelly after elbirn replaced in askin' about the shelly (bigelephant) wagon"

but now we're in a reality where those posts don't exist so I just look like I'm full of shit, or I'm too tired to sift through the noise that is minivirgos iso I dont wanna vote here until I think better

Also, town can townread someone but float theories about them being scum, it's the context that matters. what about Byteson's take there is scummy specifically?

[shellyc]

Yo dog I said I was unwilling to vote you like 3 posts prior. And this sheep me til I'm wrong nonsense doesn't work, you were already wrong on derp.

derp was like a consensus SR i was pushing you/prof maf for half the day

you clearly show hostility/shade towards me yet do not scumread me which is a form of discrediting

its elbirn/profmaf/johnny
I've seen the light

[Nandor the Relentless]

Elbirn is probtown, im sure someone is better at reading him than I so

I would put mini, nandor, shelly, and maybe mccree in obvtown tier

Had a50 in locktown before but unsure now

Eh, yessiree did say this though. Had Elbirn as probtown.

Was focusing on Johnny and Prof as scum yesterday, which make me a little more inclined to launch there instead.

[ManWithNoName]

Nandor can be town, too.