mini #585 - A Tempest Has Formed (Over), Thanks Patrick!!

[Xtoxm]

Claiming today is comepletely pointless anyway, but i'm a vanilla.

Poro is scum.

Pop stop being so anti-town.

[Xtoxm]

So, Poro next, Matt last, please.

[Xtoxm]

Although, starting to agree with AJ that Skruffs might actually be town, and the scum be Poro and Matt, and this unwillingness to hammer Matt keeps going on about is why he didn't hammer the SK.

And that's fits with my not finding Matt acting like a townie.

[Matt_S]

I go from being second on the claim list to being last.

this unwillingness to hammer Matt keeps going on about is why he didn't hammer the SK.

I don't get what you mean here. What "unwillingness to hammer" have I been talking about?

[Xtoxm]

You know what, you're online, just claim...

[Matt_S]

K, vanilla townie.

Now about that question I asked...

[Xtoxm]

How you keep saying you and me aren't clear for not hammering cause of JK.

[Matt_S]

How you keep saying you and me aren't clear for not hammering cause of JK.

What about it? Is me mentioning it scummier than you ignoring it?

[Porochaz]

Wow, this was a joke of a mass claim, Im vanilla as well. So what next? 4 vanilla obviously at least one of us is lying, otoh though this is a good thing, my suggestion is to carry out skruffs plan a few pages back. Thats the best plan in my view.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Alabaska J (1) -- Cream147
Porochaz (2) -- Alabaska J, Xtoxm
Xtoxm (1) -- Porochaz

Not voting: Matt_S, populartajo, Skruffs
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Xtoxm]

Ok, with 4 scum, i'm pretty certain town gotta have more than just a cop and lovers, so I think Skruffs is clear.

Now let's lynch Poro.

[Porochaz]

Ill agree with the fact skruffs is clear, out of interest how do you know there is 4 scum? With lovers is more detrimental to town in my view than advantageous so with a cop and jailkeeper we might well have only 2 scum and a SK.

[Porochaz]

You see heres the thing, you always talk about how your certain about everything and I keep wondering why? and the only thing I can come up with is that your scum. In a game full of variables you simply cant be certain about anything unless you know more than your letting on.

[populartajo]

Vanillas, do you realize that lying pretty much loses us the game, right? Just saying...

Fuck, this pretty much confirms Skruffs as a power role. And he's the only one I can see as Alvinz partner.

Again I dont think Poro is scum. Im willing to believe Ala is SK. The problem is that the options left are only Skruffs and Poro, since I dont think Cream is scum.

Wait, what about if there are only 2 scum and 1 SK? Is this possible? That would mean tha lovers and cop for town are pretty reasonable. Also Alvinz did slip at some point of the game that he only had a partner.

Thoughts?

[Porochaz]

With lovers is more detrimental to town in my view than advantageous so with a cop and jailkeeper we might well have only 2 scum and a SK.

[populartajo]

Mmm. This is weird.

[Porochaz]

What do you think of Xtoxm pop?

[Xtoxm]

Oh please, this is clearly a ploy to try and get the SK lynched today for the win.

There are 3 scum + SK, that's what it always is.

More Poro lynch, please.

[Porochaz]

What? Im not saying we should lynch A J today and havent done for a page or two I think its fairly possible now he is the SK. Where the hell did you get that from? Cause get this, the only person I want to lynch now is mafia, meaning you.

[populartajo]

What do you think of Xtoxm pop?

I dont think he's scum. I hate his latest indecision but I have an overall town read from him.
Poro, why did you want to lynch the SK? And why did you think he's scum even though he didnt hammer Ala, yet you believe Ala is the SK?

[Porochaz]

Your question is confusing... but I can answer the first bit at least... I didn't ever want to lynch the SK I wanted to lynch Alabaska J who I didnt think was the SK because claiming was a REALLY REALLY DUMB thing to do. I'm going to make no bones about it. It has a "no win" guaruntee on it and through that I get the second part of your question and my answer is I really dont know, an oversight maybe? I think its fairly possible A J is the SK and just played really badly or the both of them are scum partners. You see I want to believe AJ is SK but Xtoxm's and AJ's other actions in relation to one another (beyond the no hammering) make no sense.

[Cream147]

It seems that we're all of common belief that Skruffs is jailkeeper, because the game would be unbalanced with so little power roles. Pop is town. Alabaska claims SK. That leaves us with me, poro, xtoxm, and Matt. Me and xtoxm are generally believed to not really have a chance of being partners with alvinz. If the game is 3 mafia and 1 sk, then it seems that Poro and Matt are the scum, and Alabaska is the SK...if only it were that simple...for a start, you have to believe that there are 3 mafia, rather than 2. You have to believe Alabaska's claim. You have to believe that xtoxm and I aren't scumbuddies with alvinz. However, what I've said is a real possibility, and I think I'd put my vote on a Poro or Matt lynch today.

[Xtoxm]

Good post, Cream.

I just had a thought - Perhaps Matt is the best lynch for today? The way I see it, there's still an outside chance of Poro being SK...But with Matt, he's mafia in both scenario's. Perhaps we should lynch him?

Pop, what you think?

[populartajo]

Rereading Matt.

[populartajo]

Good post, Cream.

I just had a thought - Perhaps Matt is the best lynch for today? The way I see it, there's still an outside chance of Poro being SK...But with Matt, he's mafia in both scenario's. Perhaps we should lynch him?

Pop, what you think?

Mmm but if Ala is the SK wouldnt he have hammered him?