mini #585 - A Tempest Has Formed (Over), Thanks Patrick!!

[Cream147]

I think it's fair to say that Miztef has confused us...the supposed 'pms' on the front page seem to be more like descriptions of the roles, rather than the actual pms. I feel so conned lol. That still makes Alabaska's rash claim that at one point, he didn't have a night kill seem a bit...strange.

[Alabaska J]

Whyja say that Porochaz?
Busted.

can you vote him now please?

[Porochaz]

Because it really codemns me :rolleyes: The way I interpreted it was that the description there had to be in there in some form or another (doesnt have to be exact wording) and doesnt have to encompass the whole role. Which still makes AJ's claim seem wrong.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Alabaska J (1) -- Cream147
Porochaz (2) -- Alabaska J, Xtoxm
Xtoxm (2) -- Skruffs, Porochaz

Not voting: Matt_S, populartajo
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Xtoxm]

Pop, Matt - Can you not see that those are the scum trying to get me lynched?

Seriosuly. I am confirmed non-mafia UNLESS i'm mafia with AJ. So they have absolutely no reason to vote me, unless they're scum. Apart from that i'm practically confirmed town now anyway.

Please lynch Poro.

[populartajo]

Xtoxm explain clearly
a) who are the scum and why?
b) why cant you be mafia?

[Xtoxm]

1. Poro and Skruffs.

2. If I was scum with anyone but AJ, i'd have hammered him for the win. Apart from that, day 1 practically confirms i'm not mafia.

[Alabaska J]

I actually think Poro and Cream

[Xtoxm]

Then why would Skruffs vote me? It has to be.

[Alabaska J]

Then why would Skruffs vote me? It has to be.

I thought he was about to unvote and vote Poro. Oh well.

Also, Skruffs claim is consistent with my experience with him claiming.

[Matt_S]

If I was scum with anyone but AJ, i'd have hammered him for the win. Apart from that, day 1 practically confirms i'm not mafia.

Like Skruffs, said, he can roleblock people. It wouldn't be a guaranteed win, so this doesn't confirm either of us.

[populartajo]

1. Poro and Skruffs.

2. If I was scum with anyone but AJ, i'd have hammered him for the win. Apart from that, day 1 practically confirms i'm not mafia.

You forgot the "why?" part.
And why would you be confirmed for D1 play? Alvinz didnt mention you at all even though Gaspode was crazy against him.

I thought he was about to unvote and vote Poro. Oh well.

Also, Skruffs claim is consistent with my experience with him claiming.

Show us, please.
Also I sincerely think Cream and Poro arent mafia.

[Alabaska J]

fritzer mafia put can't find the link

[Porochaz]

Why dont you explain why your not mafia day 1 instead of just saying it?

Also I think its fairly obvious that not everything is clear cut in this game... Skruffs claim isnt 100% certain, you cant be 100% certain about me, Alabaska J, or anyone for that matter so trying to pass yourself off as if we should be 100% your not mafia when you are so definetly not is wrong.

[populartajo]

This game.
Rereading and really worried that the players I think are town arent giving a shit about it.

[populartajo]

Damn. The only logical conclusion I can get is that Skruffs is incredibly scummy.
Ok, maybe we need massclaim.

[populartajo]

Xtoxm, Matt, Poro, Cream. In tha order.

[Alabaska J]

Why dont you explain why your not mafia day 1 instead of just saying it?

Also I think its fairly obvious that not everything is clear cut in this game... Skruffs claim isnt 100% certain, you cant be 100% certain about me, Alabaska J, or anyone for that matter so trying to pass yourself off as if we should be 100% your not mafia when you are so definetly not is wrong.

His predecessor attacked alvinz all of day one. I'm not sure how this clears him but everyone (including you at one point, I believe) thinks it does.

[populartajo]

Poro-Skruffs. Interesting.

[populartajo]

EBWOP.
Skruffs, how did you know MM was NAR?

[Xtoxm]

Why do you want the practically confirmed townie going first?

I should be going last.

[Porochaz]

OK Xtoxm I read over Gaspodes posts, now he does attack alvinz fairly early on. However even though he's scum it wasn't the most stable of cases. To keep looking at it, it wasnt really a particularly damning case Gaspode wrote. I don't think this clears you at all... it might make you look more townie but definetly not confirmed nowhere near especially since youve been so damn scummy. So dont try and push that shit because it just wont fly.

[Skruffs]

Because I talked with NAR over AIM, and he mentioned he was in this game with me as an alt. I'm familiar enough with his posting style to pick out who he was pretty much immediately after I knew he was in the game. Because I have seen NAR get lynched as town often day one, and fake claimed as town, as well as scum, everything he did that was suspicious to everyone else was therefore not as suspicious to me.


Xtoxm, saying you are a 'practically confirmed' townie means nothing, and especially in regards to the way you are stalling, it's making you look scummier. Trying to clear yourself without explaining why, in detail, and instead just saying "Because", indicates you are bluffing. If you are town, then you should have no problem trying to help find the real scum.

Knowing that there was a jailkeeper, you would have no reason to quick hammer someone.

Personally Cream147 seems kind of upset about the whole 'disparancies' about the role pms, so I'd like him, then Xtoxm to go.

Unvote

I say I am willing to vote someone before I vote them in lylo situations because I see no reason to throw away a game based on an impulse that could be proven wrong later.

[Cream147]

I will claim now. I don't think there is any damage to be done. I'm a vanilla townie. Sorry if harm

was

done with that claim.

[populartajo]

Xtoxm go.