Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[MURDERCAT]

I also just wanted to get that reaction ^

[Exorcists]

Town pings on Tayl0r because she feels at ease in her early posting.

so maf have rolecop, roleblocker and non consecutive strongman. thats 5 so we must have 8
I don't wanna speculate on prs this early but I have a suspicion of 1 existing due to the mafia picking a strongman
ahh people beat me to it
ill toss this here for now
VOTE: murdercat

I dislike this because stating PlusJOYED doesn't want to speculate on prs directly contradicts the following statement of suspecting one exists due to there being a strongman. It doesn't take a genius to work that one out, so the former seems written more for appearances.

VOTE: PlusJOYED

-Lance

[Tayl0r Swift]

Town pings on Tayl0r because she feels at ease in her early posting.

so maf have rolecop, roleblocker and non consecutive strongman. thats 5 so we must have 8
I don't wanna speculate on prs this early but I have a suspicion of 1 existing due to the mafia picking a strongman
ahh people beat me to it
ill toss this here for now
VOTE: murdercat

I dislike this because stating PlusJOYED doesn't want to speculate on prs directly contradicts the following statement of suspecting one exists due to there being a strongman. It doesn't take a genius to work that one out, so the former seems written more for appearances.

VOTE: PlusJOYED

-Lance

actually im very nervous but fortunately no one seems to have noticed my scumslip. i feel like i covered it up pretty well.

[MURDERCAT]

oops, wrong thread.

[Exorcists]

I was wondering about this. I actually didn't read the setup that closely so I didn't realize that we learn what the scum chose. Do we know the number of points?

If I am reading the setup rules correctly town has 8 points worth of PR's

but that doesn't tell us how many total because that could change based on how the points were divided up.

Slight scum pings from this because it's self-explanatory. As if Random Canadian wants to fake not knowing about the number of town roles, so elaborates on this point, when it's fairly obvious and shouldn't require elaboration.

-Lance

[Battle Mage]

Town pings on Tayl0r because she feels at ease in her early posting.

Bad take. Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum. Additionally:

so the mafia has a strongman, rolecop, and roleblocker. since scum already knows what town has, is it worth it for town to speculate about what roles town has? it cant hurt right?

This is completely pro-scum ^

based on posting so far i have already deduced who all the town PRs are and who we should kill tonight.

oops, wrong thread.

awkward joke about being scum, always scummy

VOTE: Taylor Swift

[Exorcists]

actually im very nervous but fortunately no one seems to have noticed my scumslip. i feel like i covered it up pretty well.

Where is your scum-slip?

-Lance

[Exorcists]

Bad take. Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum. Additionally:

I have a bad habit of reading scum claiming as towny. I'd love to see the data on how likely it is to come from town vs scum.

-Lance

[xofelf]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Let me see if I can follow along. With how this setup works, if you're good at maths and all, you can kinda mechanically guess what sort of PRs town could have based on how many points were spent for the Undead? I will admit I am unfamiliar with the setup or how any of it works, so already starting a step or so behind there. Is there any sort of benefit to theorizing that, or is it more just a good place to start early game conversations? I can't remember the last time I played an Open so forgive me, my logic is rusty on ideal play.

[MURDERCAT]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Sorry, games I'm in tend to have a lot of pages. I guess it's because people like talking to me so much?

[Battle Mage]

Bad take. Taylor-town does not give impression of trying. Taylor appears to be trying here. Ergo, Taylor scum. Additionally:

I have a bad habit of reading scum claiming as towny. I'd love to see the data on how likely it is to come from town vs scum.

-Lance

My experience is definitely it's a scumtell. Not that more scum necessarily do it than town, but the ratio of scum:town doing it, is higher than the ratio of scum:town in games. So it slightly increased likelihood of scumflip above random.

[Battle Mage]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Let me see if I can follow along. With how this setup works, if you're good at maths and all, you can kinda mechanically guess what sort of PRs town could have based on how many points were spent for the Undead? I will admit I am unfamiliar with the setup or how any of it works, so already starting a step or so behind there. Is there any sort of benefit to theorizing that, or is it more just a good place to start early game conversations? I can't remember the last time I played an Open so forgive me, my logic is rusty on ideal play.

I have no idea why anyone town would want to do this.

[xofelf]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Sorry, games I'm in tend to have a lot of pages. I guess it's because people like talking to me so much?

So it's *your* fault, noted.

I probably don't mind, it's just been a hot minute since I've played not in a hydra.

[xofelf]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Let me see if I can follow along. With how this setup works, if you're good at maths and all, you can kinda mechanically guess what sort of PRs town could have based on how many points were spent for the Undead? I will admit I am unfamiliar with the setup or how any of it works, so already starting a step or so behind there. Is there any sort of benefit to theorizing that, or is it more just a good place to start early game conversations? I can't remember the last time I played an Open so forgive me, my logic is rusty on ideal play.

I have no idea why anyone town would want to do this.

What do you mean?

[Tayl0r Swift]

actually im very nervous but fortunately no one seems to have noticed my scumslip. i feel like i covered it up pretty well.

Where is your scum-slip?

-Lance

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i can see the setup spec maybe not helping that much. but i really cant see it hurting, and im a bit suspicious of those who are pushing back against it. this is info SCUM ALREADY HAS. lets level the playing field? for VTs it wont help much, but for PRs theyll know what other PRs are in the game, at the very least.

[MURDERCAT]

Could help scum find the PRs though

[Battle Mage]

actually im very nervous but fortunately no one seems to have noticed my scumslip. i feel like i covered it up pretty well.

Where is your scum-slip?

-Lance

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i can see the setup spec maybe not helping that much. but i really cant see it hurting, and im a bit suspicious of those who are pushing back against it. this is info SCUM ALREADY HAS. lets level the playing field? for VTs it wont help much, but for PRs theyll know what other PRs are in the game, at the very least.

Could help scum find the PRs though

^This, obviously.

[xofelf]

So it's bad, got it. Just was trying to understand why it was a discussion in the first place. Thank you for explaining.

[Battle Mage]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Let me see if I can follow along. With how this setup works, if you're good at maths and all, you can kinda mechanically guess what sort of PRs town could have based on how many points were spent for the Undead? I will admit I am unfamiliar with the setup or how any of it works, so already starting a step or so behind there. Is there any sort of benefit to theorizing that, or is it more just a good place to start early game conversations? I can't remember the last time I played an Open so forgive me, my logic is rusty on ideal play.

I have no idea why anyone town would want to do this.

What do you mean?

see murdercat post 65. scum already knows what PRs we have, but doesnt know who has them. if we speculate about what they are, it'll be pretty obvious to them who is and isn't one.

[Battle Mage]

So it's bad, got it. Just was trying to understand why it was a discussion in the first place. Thank you for explaining.

no probs mate

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh, so this is going to be a very talkative game from the start, alright. Sure.

Let me see if I can follow along. With how this setup works, if you're good at maths and all, you can kinda mechanically guess what sort of PRs town could have based on how many points were spent for the Undead? I will admit I am unfamiliar with the setup or how any of it works, so already starting a step or so behind there. Is there any sort of benefit to theorizing that, or is it more just a good place to start early game conversations? I can't remember the last time I played an Open so forgive me, my logic is rusty on ideal play.

I have no idea why anyone town would want to do this.

What do you mean?

see murdercat post 65. scum already knows what PRs we have, but doesnt know who has them. if we speculate about what they are, it'll be pretty obvious to them who is and isn't one.

no it wont.

[xofelf]

Why are you so sure it won't?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why are you so sure it won't?

i mean it could if the town PRs fuck up and are dumb. but they just have to feign ignorance and not be like "well im the cop so in all the scenarios i consider, therell be a cop"... like if it outs town PRs then itll out scum too, who are also TMI. itll take 2 seconds to go through and look at the possible options for town with 8 points, and then to look at which ones dont make sense given the scum roles.

[Battle Mage]

Why are you so sure it won't?

just ignore her

[xofelf]

Why are you so sure it won't?

just ignore her

Fair sentiment, may just. But I'm genuinely curious why she thinks that. The explanation you and Murdercat gave seemed solid enough to me as to why it was a bad idea.