Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[DiamondSentinel]

SC is probly scum - he's way too sweet here.

I'd vote him but MWB still hasn't apologized for causing the death of poor Eliza yet.

Idk about "too sweet" but his Nahdia push ain't great

@DS that seems fair, it's less about pushing people you think are shady and more about sorting people who you can read but don't have a read on

I personally think that pushing people because you want them lynched is a shitty strategy. It doesn't actually get scum, and instead just gets people who are unsure of their footing.

I push people because I want something set in stone that I can refer to at a later point.

Pedit: ooh pagetop

[Tammy]

You think Cabd's playstyle was specifically to get you involved?
The whole thing where he was so hesitant to reveal the reasoning for the Bell SR despite being convicted about it reeked for one. Also like I've said some of his humourous posting (like the one I quoted on pg 36) seems to be trying to look good.

No. I was positing the possible why's that I think was more plausible for why he asked me specifically what I thought of his reads. I don't think he was seeking approval or validation. I do think he was trying to get a read on me if he didn't have a read already.

I think the other things that DS pointed out were play style/personality.

[SirCakez]

so i wont have time to catch up until later tonight, but here's some content to read me on

i maintain 33 is a bad look. that kind of perspective-discerning logic always reads super ingenuine to me, and while it can come from town, i think scum are likely to throw it out because it's one of those "technically correct" points. that said, obviously there's a lot more content from that slot with which to read now, so my read may well change

didnt really get anything from peta's vote on me or the subsequent reactions, at least at first glance.

I'm not fond of that type of pizza.

Noted!

Now. Why me before Syr?

You're scarier. And you're around! I feel like I'll know pretty quickly if Syr's town. He and I have some of the same weaknesses as scum, especially interacting with each other.

This post stands out to me. Are you holding your cards close to your chest here until you get a read or would you care to elaborate?

VOTE: Alisae
bad push tbh

was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.

I don't get the point and I don't see the problem yet. I really doubt scum!Jake is going to come out of the game posting votecounts instead of trying to form connections with other people.

your defense of your partner is noted

am I doing it right peta?

this is also a bad look. feels very much like a post i would make as scum, though if people disagree that it's a generally scummy post i might just be projecting a bit too much. feedback welcome.

glad to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.

kinda liked 216. alisae is slightly leaning town at this point.

and now im at page 10!

Gamma I'm mainly going off these two posts. Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this) and kind of reminds me of catch-ups I used to post as scum

[SirCakez]

You think Cabd's playstyle was specifically to get you involved?
The whole thing where he was so hesitant to reveal the reasoning for the Bell SR despite being convicted about it reeked for one. Also like I've said some of his humourous posting (like the one I quoted on pg 36) seems to be trying to look good.

No. I was positing the possible why's that I think was more plausible for why he asked me specifically what I thought of his reads. I don't think he was seeking approval or validation. I do think he was trying to get a read on me if he didn't have a read already.

I think the other things that DS pointed out were play style/personality.

Oh I see you were referring to DS's case specifically
What do you think about my more general argument that Cabd is using his playstyle and humor to avoid posting more serious content?

[Tammy]

You think Cabd's playstyle was specifically to get you involved?
The whole thing where he was so hesitant to reveal the reasoning for the Bell SR despite being convicted about it reeked for one. Also like I've said some of his humourous posting (like the one I quoted on pg 36) seems to be trying to look good.

No. I was positing the possible why's that I think was more plausible for why he asked me specifically what I thought of his reads. I don't think he was seeking approval or validation. I do think he was trying to get a read on me if he didn't have a read already.

I think the other things that DS pointed out were play style/personality.

Oh I see you were referring to DS's case specifically
What do you think about my more general argument that Cabd is using his playstyle and humor to avoid posting more serious content?

That one is entirely possible. I'm not sure that I agree that's the case, but I can see where you're coming from. I liked the dream thing, though I want to go back and read it again. So, I like it, but it doesn't mean town to me. Ffery has a town read on him, and I'm taking that into consideration with my read because I believe* she can read him better than I can. But I've only seen him as scum once.

*This is also dependent upon me getting a town read on ffery that I feel really comfortable with.

[Tammy]

Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this)

I kind of liked the admission of the half-hearted push.

Probably shouldn't but I did.

[SirCakez]

I don't know how to approach the relationship between this group Tammy which is kind of what I was getting at with the bias thing - I feel like you guys want to townread each other because you're all friends.

[Tammy]

I feel like I'm more paranoid of them because we're friends

[Something_Smart]

Legitimate reads are reads that are working towards solving the game, not sowing discord.

this is a really weird view of scumplay.

[Something_Smart]

(and yes, these are all not in this game, but I'm deliberate about using people not in this game, lest I be wrong and eat my words)

lol

are there any people in the game who would fit into the categories you're describing?

[Something_Smart]

But I regularly write paragraphs because that's what I need to get my point across. Not everyone shitposts their way to LyLo. Some of us play the game and speak eloquently.

There's a middle ground :X

[Gamma Emerald]

so i wont have time to catch up until later tonight, but here's some content to read me on

i maintain 33 is a bad look. that kind of perspective-discerning logic always reads super ingenuine to me, and while it can come from town, i think scum are likely to throw it out because it's one of those "technically correct" points. that said, obviously there's a lot more content from that slot with which to read now, so my read may well change

didnt really get anything from peta's vote on me or the subsequent reactions, at least at first glance.

I'm not fond of that type of pizza.

Noted!

Now. Why me before Syr?

You're scarier. And you're around! I feel like I'll know pretty quickly if Syr's town. He and I have some of the same weaknesses as scum, especially interacting with each other.

This post stands out to me. Are you holding your cards close to your chest here until you get a read or would you care to elaborate?

VOTE: Alisae
bad push tbh

was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.

I don't get the point and I don't see the problem yet. I really doubt scum!Jake is going to come out of the game posting votecounts instead of trying to form connections with other people.

your defense of your partner is noted

am I doing it right peta?

this is also a bad look. feels very much like a post i would make as scum, though if people disagree that it's a generally scummy post i might just be projecting a bit too much. feedback welcome.

glad to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.

kinda liked 216. alisae is slightly leaning town at this point.

and now im at page 10!

Gamma I'm mainly going off these two posts. Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this) and kind of reminds me of catch-ups I used to post as scum

You know what, I actually see it now. She seems to want to be townread for minimal solving.
VOTE: Nahdia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

they

[Something_Smart]

+town points

Meh disagree. Cakez is good enough as scum to know when he'd walk away from an argument as town.

[Gamma Emerald]

*their sorry

[Something_Smart]

Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this)

isn't admission of fault usually towny?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

SS why did you ignore poor Eliza

[Something_Smart]

Because I didn't feel like engaging annoying RP. Sorry.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nuuuh :<

i guess that's fair

[petapan]

gamma's last dozen posts are whatever are all in the sketchy zone

[Something_Smart]

I don't see anything in particular wrong with them. Can you elaborate?

[Gamma Emerald]

So I don't remember what my thing I was doing for the RP catchup was (probably due to only really ever doing that RP while in a specific location a lot of the time) so I'll just not do it. I'm sure someone's happy.

I have three town reads already. Woo.

Page 7. I should hope so.

How serious was this and why?

Because it's helpful to know where everyone else's votes are? Like, I have no idea what you're looking for here.

why do

YOU

care
how is it helpful to

YOU

[/quote]
I like this questioning. tbh I think Jake's desire to keep votals clear is kinda a scum motivated move.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.5

petapan [1] - Tammy
Gamma Emerald [1] - Jake The Wolfie
Bell [1] - Cabd
Jake The Wolfie [1] - DiamondSentinel
midwaybear [1] - PookyTheMagicalBear
DiamondSentinel [1] - Tayl0r Swift
fferyllt [1] - Nahdia
Nahdia [3] - Alisae, petapan, Gamma Emerald
Tayl0r Swift [1] - SirCakez
petapan [1] - Bell
PookyTheMagicalBear [1] - midwaybear

Not Voting [4]

- fferyllt, Something_Smart, The Bulge, Syryana

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-10-16 20:35:31)

[Tammy]

fakegod confirmed scum for posting vote counts!

[SirCakez]

so i wont have time to catch up until later tonight, but here's some content to read me on

i maintain 33 is a bad look. that kind of perspective-discerning logic always reads super ingenuine to me, and while it can come from town, i think scum are likely to throw it out because it's one of those "technically correct" points. that said, obviously there's a lot more content from that slot with which to read now, so my read may well change

didnt really get anything from peta's vote on me or the subsequent reactions, at least at first glance.

I'm not fond of that type of pizza.

Noted!

Now. Why me before Syr?

You're scarier. And you're around! I feel like I'll know pretty quickly if Syr's town. He and I have some of the same weaknesses as scum, especially interacting with each other.

This post stands out to me. Are you holding your cards close to your chest here until you get a read or would you care to elaborate?

VOTE: Alisae
bad push tbh

was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.

I don't get the point and I don't see the problem yet. I really doubt scum!Jake is going to come out of the game posting votecounts instead of trying to form connections with other people.

your defense of your partner is noted

am I doing it right peta?

this is also a bad look. feels very much like a post i would make as scum, though if people disagree that it's a generally scummy post i might just be projecting a bit too much. feedback welcome.

glad to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.

kinda liked 216. alisae is slightly leaning town at this point.

and now im at page 10!

Gamma I'm mainly going off these two posts. Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this) and kind of reminds me of catch-ups I used to post as scum

You know what, I actually see it now. She seems to want to be townread for minimal solving.
VOTE: Nahdia

How are you gonna SR for my push on Nahdia and change your mind this easily?

Seem very half-hearted (Nahdia admitted to this)

isn't admission of fault usually towny?

Depends. Not in this case imo.