Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.14

MURDERCAT

(5): Panzerjager, PookyTheMagicalBear, The Bulge, Gamma Emerald, Noraa

PookyTheMagicalBear

(4): OutWorldER, Blitzo, Kasumeat, MURDERCAT

Noraa

(2): Thestatusquo, duppin

Panzerjager

(1): Not_Mafia

Not voting

(1): UneducatedGuesser

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to yeet someone.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-10-12 14:30:00)

[Noraa]

Noraa and Rossi are town

who is rossi? and why these town passes?

[Thestatusquo]

because hes doing nonsense.

like this is a lot of what I don't like about your play today. All your analysis of people are surface level and tend to assume like what the worst scum player or town player would do in any given scenario you're talking about. I know that you know that scum players are capable of faking AtE for instance, or that none of what N_M has done has made much sense or indicated any reasonable interest in the game, but you think its worthy of a town read now? Like how you looked at noraas fluff read list and said you thought it looked townie when I asked you for something that was townie, saying 'I don't see this read list coming from scum. It's honestly so empty it makes no sense in some places.'

I know you're capable of real analysis so when I see you making these surface reads and comments that don't make much sense if you dig down I try to think "ok what is the town motivation for MC to make this argument vs. the scum motivation" and there's way more scum than town on that list.

[Thestatusquo]

^^ was directed at MC in case that wasnt clear.

[Not_Mafia]

I think scum NM just votes me

Why would I vote you if you're not even at E-1?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's almost like performance art level trolling

[MURDERCAT]

This is fair, but that real analysis is much more likely to come D2+

[MURDERCAT]

Sure if I think I catch something then I will go deep, but honestly I don't feel like I have caught something yet

[MURDERCAT]

But I will do my best to read Pooky for you

[MURDERCAT]

Also to be clear about NM, I was only referring to that specific vote, not my entire read on him

[Not_Mafia]

I think scum NM just votes me

Why would I vote you if you're not even at E-1?

This was a serious question, why would I be voting you in that scenario?

[Thestatusquo]

This is fair, but that real analysis is much more likely to come D2+

I'm not talking about analysis. I'm talking about you saying a lot of things like "X is likely town for because they did Y" when Y is frequently done by scum players specifically because it nets town points. I'm not looking for in depth analysis necessarily, but some understanding that sometimes scum plays well is what I'm expecting.

[MURDERCAT]

This is fair, but that real analysis is much more likely to come D2+

I'm not talking about analysis. I'm talking about you saying a lot of things like "X is likely town for because they did Y" when Y is frequently done by scum players specifically because it nets town points. I'm not looking for in depth analysis necessarily, but some understanding that sometimes scum plays well is what I'm expecting.

Sure fair enough

[MURDERCAT]

I think scum NM just votes me

Why would I vote you if you're not even at E-1?

This was a serious question, why would I be voting you in that scenario?

To lim me? I'm not sure I understand the question

[Not_Mafia]

If I were to vote you now then I wouldn't be able to quickhammer you, why would I do such a thing?

[MURDERCAT]

If I were to vote you now then I wouldn't be able to quickhammer you, why would I do such a thing?

I see so the question was not serious

[Not_Mafia]

It was serious, you're townreading me for not doing something I would never do

[Noraa]

Noraa and Rossi are town

who is rossi? and why these town passes?

[MURDERCAT]

It was serious, you're townreading me for not doing something I would never do

Yeah I mean I guess that's true, why'd you change your vote then though?

[MURDERCAT]

I guess I expect scum NM who has successfully done nothing all game with no consequences to continue doing that and wait quietly for the hammer

[Not_Mafia]

It was serious, you're townreading me for not doing something I would never do

Yeah I mean I guess that's true, why'd you change your vote then though?

I've already forgotten

[Noraa]

I guess I expect scum NM who has successfully done nothing all game with no consequences to continue doing that and wait quietly for the hammer

justify why you think NM is scum. The playstyle is interesting but I'm not sure its AI

[Gamma Emerald]

*sigh*
im not sure if I believe that but also scum would prolly want to just claim a pr so that I, or pooky die instead since there's multiple counter wagons :/

wdym not sure if you believe it? It's a VT claim, what's there to believe?

[MURDERCAT]

Not_Mafia
Ok I spent a while just now reading NM games and it made me lean scum on him. I realize there is a perception that NM can’t be read (especially not off 5 posts) but we do have to sort him eventually. The reason I’m scumleaning him is that his posting style looks more checked out than average and from the games I looked at he seemed to be more engaged as town (even that engagement came in the form of dumb troll posts). I realize no one is going to follow me on this read unless people want a policy elim, but I’m putting it out there anyway.

This was the bulk of it, nothing strong obviously

[Thestatusquo]

It was serious, you're townreading me for not doing something I would never do

Yeah I mean I guess that's true, why'd you change your vote then though?

technically he didnt