Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[fferyllt]

Fine. Just know that if this is a case where I've lost two, and we're down to only 167 reasons now, that I told you so.

Pizza fixes many things in life.

....I suddenly have a lot of thoughts about this setup.

We're going to need to go even another layer deeper to be able to talk about it.

But it's urgent.

Let's see how far we can get, Dathon.

You know that thing Andy collects as games go onwards that he love-hates? I think he's going to get a LOT of them quickly. VERY quickly.

That wouldn't surprise me. If I'm at the right level of depth, then it's safe to say that in moderation, I'll be in love.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pizza fixes many things in life.

Eliza felt pangs of hunger at the thought of delicious pizza, she had been subsisting on a diet of cigarettes and martinis for the last month and she was absolutely famished.. She absentmindedly lit another cigarette to clear the cravings from her head

[Cabd]

...Fuck

[Tammy]

okay it's late and almost page 10 which means my internal mafia clock says it's time to start making serious posts too

I don't wanna

Hi Tammy, I have expressed read(s), do you agree with those read(s) or no, and why?

It's srsbsns time!

A few quick thoughts while I'm on a break.

I don't really have reads I feel close to comfortable right now or thoughts that probably really go anywhere. I mourn pre-2015 me who got early reads, but I've been so much more cautious since that scum streak from hell.

Anyway, I have liked midwaybear's approach in general and have no issues with him so far. I particularly like him tonally. There was a post where someone asked him why he was grumpy and he just said something like this was him or how he plays or something. And that had a much better tone than the wooden response he had whenever he was called scum in FGO. So, not enough for me to go oh hey yeah he's town, but I like him enough that I have no qualms with it.

I liked ffer's response to your questions about reads when she said me ~reasons. I don't know how scum ffery would approach a town you, but I'm thinking about how she approached me the last time she was scum and it was a kinda flat fake paranoia that rang all wrong. (I was scum reading her predecessor and she was hydraing with nacho who purple prose scum told in his beginning, so I was already wary so that could be some confirmation bias.). I think scum ffery wouldn't be expecting that you would be town reading her, though she might have to respond that way because that's how she would as town? The way you guys are lady and the tramping it suggests you both are town reading each other decently, and I'm still in watching that play out mode.

I'm cautiously optimistic on ffery there and I'm in a similar position with Syry. I don't expect syr to fold faster than a player with. 2 7 off suite with pressure anymore; I think his scum game has come a long way since when we were partners. But I do know that he would hate to draw scum here, and with that knowledge I like his entrance so far. I was a little concerned with the super strong town read on ffery so quickly, but syry is like that? So, maybe sryr and I will dance later and I'll feel better later. These two reads are my crux; cautiously optimistic at the moment but I also really want them both to be town and I know that which might be making me feel even more cautious about the optimism.

As an aside because I now have to run. Think ffery expected petapan to come into the game as assassin going hard, but peta just seems like peta to me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

peta what are your reads rn?

[petapan]

no

[Tayl0r Swift]

same, honestly

[fferyllt]

...Fuck

Hm.

Maybe I misunderstood. What I thought you meant about Andy's love/hate wasn't exactly seismic.

[Cabd]

...Fuck

Hm.

Maybe I misunderstood. What I thought you meant about Andy's love/hate wasn't exactly seismic.

How well do you trust your initial read of syr?

[petapan]

DS kinda LHF here

what makes you come to that conclusion exactly

[fferyllt]

It's not an in-thread-masons level read, but I like him for town.

[fferyllt]

Cabd.

[Tammy]

okay it's late and almost page 10 which means my internal mafia clock says it's time to start making serious posts too

I don't wanna

Hi Tammy, I have expressed read(s), do you agree with those read(s) or no, and why?

It's srsbsns time!

I ain't Tammy but I'ma respond to this anyways. Curmudgeonly Syr-mode activate! I disagree with yer first read; tryharding that early on pings me. Honestly not a damn clue what you're seeing in that one. And yes, I was there for Archer too. Second read is bang on and fuck easy for anyone in the Chicago cabal to get. Third? Can't be arsed to try to infer who your third read is.

Got another quick break so I'll expand on my thoughts. This was the one that gave me pause. I know that Syr is busting bravado type with reads and such naturally, but I guess it felt a little extra. Enough for me to go hmm, but again I might just be being dumb squinty.

(His wheels on the bus go round and round didn't fit the text he included it on, so that one felt like posting it for effect rather than using a gif that applies to the text. Yes, I'm crazy I know.)

[Tammy]

This lack of genuine conversation just makes it hard to find a solid tell on people.

Not everyone has been roleplaying and doing stuff like that
Any thoughts on the dynamic between Cabd, fferylt, Tammy, and Syryana or is it similarly unreadable to you like the roleplay? Also, let me know what you think about SirCakez

Aight, so I've played a couple games with Cabd and fferylt so I'll start with them.

This reads heavily like town fferylt. It's hard to explain, but the general demeanor has a lot of direction that kinda lacks in her scumgame.
Cabd is a null!scum read. It really reads as if he's begging for validation from other folks in the crowd, specifically Tammy, but that's not as hard of a read on Cabd as it is with some others.

Tammy equally reads null!scum, but I'm not sure if I like these two together. For someone as experienced as them, they're giving a whole lot of half-assed content. Plus, they've interacted really poorly with you and fferylt (for the record, I've got you as a null!town rn, but we'll see). But back to what I originally touched on, I don't think that Cabd+Tammy is scum theater. That's the only strong read I have rn in this pair.

Syryana reads a decent null!town rn. Her reaction to your engagement sounded natural, but beyond that there's not much else. A lot of posts that had a lot of words, but didn't really

say

anything.

PEdit: Holy shit a lot of posts while I was digging through. Umm, yeah, fferylt, my main question is what are your reads on some of the lesser posted people (so not the other 3 in the quad above, and not midway)

We played a few games together back when! I don't remember anything about your play though just that we played.

BUT, can you unpack the cabd is seeking approval from people? It seems you focused on me, but at the time you wrote this he'd only addressed me once.

(I didn't give any content btw! It's against my religion :p)

[Cabd]

Cabd.

Both of my 10-7 shifts called in sick. I'm essentially a one man band for about 4,000 end points while my morning guy is on lunch.


It's urgent, but IRL workplace stuff is MORE urgent.

[SirCakez]

DS kinda LHF here

what makes you come to that conclusion exactly

the games I've played with him before
also the fact he went against the nostalgia-y grain of the thread with his entrance makes him an easy target to pick on

[petapan]

decent enough answer as i feel he's an overly literal-minded player who probably gets scumread for that but the early reads did feel a bit forced

[fferyllt]

DS kinda LHF here

what makes you come to that conclusion exactly

the games I've played with him before
also the fact he went against the nostalgia-y grain of the thread with his entrance makes him an easy target to pick on

I like this post.

[petapan]

actually let me expand on that thought: do you think he's town from what he's said?

[SirCakez]

not particularly, I just think he's an easy target

[Cabd]

Cabd.

Both of my 10-7 shifts called in sick. I'm essentially a one man band for about 4,000 end points while my morning guy is on lunch.


It's urgent, but IRL workplace stuff is MORE urgent.

How hungry are you? How many slices?

[fferyllt]

A somewhat leisurely lunch would be good. More to say about Syr?

If I've missed something seismic, try again?

[Cabd]

Eh, forget it. I'm getting nowhere.

[Cabd]

Eh, forget it. I'm getting nowhere.

And the fact that this is happening re-assures me we aren't in the doom and gloom scenario at least.


Instead, let's talk about why you are already trusting of me enough to make these moves?


What post did it for you?


(P.S. You owe me a heart attack count)

[fferyllt]

I had 3 heart attacks, plus a couple false alarms during that timeframe.

It was a combo. 23, 32 (I pushed back because I wanted to see something more). 66 was the moment your av hit the bin.

It's possible I was conversing with an imaginary Cabd I made up in my head, but nothing since 66 has made me want to question my sanity and go cry myself to sleep.