Open 86 - Lovers Multiball (Game Over)

[Erratus Apathos]

SSF

[sekinj]

My lover is sekinj.

It's hot.

Does this mean we can get it on in the thread as well as in our daytalk? Just so you know, I'm all for exhibitionism...

[charter]

vote SSF

He hasn't said a useful thing all game. My previous post to SP basically sums up the other reasons. Just read EA's post. Don't think he's town either (though I'm not positive he's scum either)

Also, I am indeed cephrir's lover.

[ThAdmiral]

Charter = too pedantic

I will change "the most vocal" to "person who the most people are paying attention to due to what she is saying".

You can never be too pedantic in a Mafia game. as Adel (?) mentioned earlier on, it's pedanticism and nit-picking that grab those little slip-ups that un-mask scum. Calling someone too pedantic is basically saying "stop looking at my posts!"

And did it occur to you that, despite my faint niggle about Adel that I can't put down to anything but a minor dislike of town-leaders, Adel is actually making more sense than your annoying, worthless and frankly scummy one-liners?

Vote:ThAdmiral

J'accuse!

I think you misunderstand me. I am a fan of adel.
And while you're right about paying close attention, it can also go the other way with making mountains out of molehills.

Also: what Adel wagon? It hit two votes at most so far today. Yesterday, it got a little bigger before the lynch, then shrank nearer to deadline, but it never looked like being a lynching wagon. Why would you feel the need to implya wagon that was never there, other than to defame those few who did vote Adel?

It may have only been two votes but they were in quick succession and they were bad. They were lazy votes at a big target.



*sigh* I guess if everybody wants to claim...

my lover is darla. (She has dazzling eyes by the way)

she's on L/A but says she'll do a big post when she gets back.

[Alabaska J]

kloud and me are doing all kinds of crazy shit in our daytalk thread.

MUCH better than dybeck, who had basically no libido.

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.::] Vote Count [::.

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OpposedForce (2)

- Adel, Crazy

Alabaska J (1)

- Erratus Apathos

kloud1516 (1)

- ThAdmiral

Cerebus3 (1)

- SleepyPanda

Adel (1)

- Alabaska J

Crazy (1)

- OpposedForce

ThAdmiral (1)

- Knight of Cydonia

somestrangeflea (1)

- charter

Not Voting (13) - sekinj, somestrangeflea, Harvey Pew, pwnz, DarlaBlueEyes, Cephrir, neko2086, cerebus3, armlx, WaltWishbone, wolframnhart, kloud1516, Raging Rabbit

Twelve

votes to lynch.

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WaltWishbone has been prodded.

[WaltWishbone]

prod picked up, sorry. I am really busy this week, I'll catch up by Friday.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I think you misunderstand me. I am a fan of adel.
And while you're right about paying close attention, it can also go the other way with making mountains out of molehills.

I never said you weren't. I said you were trying to use the two votes on Adel to create a wagon out of a toy car, and use said wagon as evidence against those two voters.

[SleepyPanda]

I'm lovers with arlmx. Still don't know what's with him. He hasn't said anything in daytalk since he left.

Mod, is it too early to prod him?

He's posting in other threads so maybe he forgot he was in this game.

@Cerebus and Harvey, so I'm guessing you two are lovers. Can either of you explain why Harvey voted Fire then said he had no idea what he was doing and turned around and voted Crazy? Did you discuss anything in your daytalk about voting Crazy or Fire? Why did you go your separate ways?

[somestrangeflea]

Adel wagon = people voting for the person who is speaking the most.

See, you've implied a connection between two facts with nothing in the way of actually backing this up.

I will change "the most vocal" to "person who the most people are paying attention to due to what she is saying".

So, you think the Adel wagon exists solely because Adel is in the spotlight? Adel was under the spotlight and seemed to slip, so some people voted. I fail to see why this makes it an inherently

bad

wagon.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Precisely the point I was making.
Walt - when you do catch up, can you give us an LoS, or a top 3 suspects? would be nice to know who you're thinking about.

*sigh* I guess if everybody wants to claim...

my lover is darla. (She has dazzling eyes by the way)

she's on L/A but says she'll do a big post when she gets back.

Um, so what if everyone wants to claim? You don't necessarily have to - indeed, if Darla is on L/A, why not wait until you can talk it over with her, and decide whether or not to claim each other? If you really didn't want to claim lover, you could easily have just not done so - with the recent proliferation of claims, you'd probably be outed anyway, assuming no-one is lying.

[Harvey Pew]

With the recent proliferation of claims, you'd probably be outed anyway, assuming no-one is lying.

There won't be any lying. There is no possible benefit to mis-claiming for the town.

[Crazy]

List of lovers:

-Crazy & Knight of Cydonia (farside22)
-wolf & OF
-RR & WWB
-Adel & pwnz
-Cephrir & charter
-neko & sekinj
-Erratus Apathos & SSF
-ThAdmiral & DBE
-Alabaska & kloud (dybeck)
-Panda & armlx (pacman)
-Harvey & cerebus

3 of those pairs are scum. 1 of those pairs was scum with Iceman/OP.

From most scummiest to least, IMO:

-wolf & OF
-Cephrir & charter
-ThAdmiral & DBE
-neko & sekinj
-Erratus Apathos & SSF
-Panda & armlx (pacman)
-Alabaska & kloud (dybeck)
-Harvey & cerebus
-Adel & pwnz
-RR & WWB

[Knight of Cydonia]

With the recent proliferation of claims, you'd probably be outed anyway, assuming no-one is lying.

There won't be any lying. There is no possible benefit to mis-claiming for the town.

True, but our Mafia pairs know who each other are, and so could swap Lovers.
I can't see the point, but it's possible.

[Cephrir]

-wolf & OF
-Cephrir & charter
-ThAdmiral & DBE
-neko & sekinj
-Erratus Apathos & SSF
-Panda & armlx (pacman)
-Alabaska & kloud (dybeck)
-Harvey & cerebus
-Adel & pwnz
-RR & WWB

Any explanations? I see you're ranking pairs based on individual members (i.e., you have expressed suspicion of OF but not wolf and they're at the top).

[Crazy]

With the recent proliferation of claims, you'd probably be outed anyway, assuming no-one is lying.

There won't be any lying. There is no possible benefit to mis-claiming for the town.

True, but our Mafia pairs know who each other are, and so could swap Lovers.
I can't see the point, but it's possible.

Yeah, Charter mentioned that a while ago. Pretty much the result of the discussion was "There's zero reason anyone would do that."

So I am 99% sure that nobody lied on the mass-claim.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Until DBE returns, I'm wondering about ThAdmiral and DBE as a pair, actually.
If DBE returns and confirms that, my unease will be assauged, but... I dunno. I can't see much that would link them in posting, really.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Also (apologies for double posting) but Adel's town-steering doesn't exactly engender confidence in me (although it's more a mixture of gut, the minor flip-flop which can be explained - but so can a lot of scum tells - and a bone-deep mistrust of anyone who leads the town), and coupled with pwnz, who has been... interesting, shall we say? It's not a coupling I'd be happy with late game.

[charter]

Can someone explain to me how pwnz has been scummy rather than just unhelpful?
I'm actually getting tired of asking this pwnz...

[Cephrir]

Until DBE returns, I'm wondering about ThAdmiral and DBE as a pair, actually.
If DBE returns and confirms that, my unease will be assauged, but... I dunno. I can't see much that would link them in posting, really.

So you think ThAdmiralScum may be claiming lovers with a townie knowing they'll return from V/LA and point out that he's lying, and also another pair must be lying for no apparent reason....?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm not saying he's scummy in any way, other than the fact he's been unhelpful. That's an anti-town play, sure, but it might not necessarily be scum-tell. It just makes me a little wary - it almost looks as if Adel has been deliberately trying to distance from pwnz, which could be part of why she was initially against the mass-claim. Town-lovers should have no reason to distance from each other, claim or no claim, so... it's interesting.

[charter]

Wait, Knight, have you claimed your lover yet?

[Crazy]

-wolf & OF
-Cephrir & charter
-ThAdmiral & DBE
-neko & sekinj
-Erratus Apathos & SSF
-Panda & armlx (pacman)
-Alabaska & kloud (dybeck)
-Harvey & cerebus
-Adel & pwnz
-RR & WWB

Any explanations? I see you're ranking pairs based on individual members (i.e., you have expressed suspicion of OF but not wolf and they're at the top).

I am suspicious of wolf for this post, for its incredible wishy-washiness... hopping off my wagon that was losing speed at that time, by saying that "his mind was numb" when he was voting me in the first place. I just don't buy that.

Unvote I regret my initial vote on Crazy. Think my mind was numb and the fact my lover won't talk to me has hurt my feelings, and i lashed out! Razz

As it is, I am still unsure about Ice/OP. I do get that it seems extra scummy to ask your partner to get votes off of you and get them on someone else, but then again, ice shouldn't have had to ask, his partner should have been trying to defend him anyways so they could both continue on in the game and scum hunt. I think icemans only problem is he got stuck with a crappy partner who attacked the first person he could see.

And if you think I'm only suspicious of you because you're paired with charter, you're wrong. You've rubbed me the wrong way since the beginning.

Also, Cephrir, would you mind explaining what you were thinking of in this early post:

I'm inclined to think OpposedForce was just not paying attention. Anyway, it's not an unreasonable request if you can't figure out what the heck this scumtell is (not that I do know, I have an idea but what I think it could be doesn't seem as gamebreaking as Adel seems to think it is, so I'm probably wrong). I don't know why a lack of reading comprehension has generated a wagon on OF.

[Crazy]

Wait, Knight, have you claimed your lover yet?

He replaced farside.