Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

[RestFermata]

No, he wasn't advising other scum, he was just speculating about information that might help the scum. He was just being very...un-careful, something that town can't afford to be. I pointed them out in my case against IG in post 292. He too much talking about power roles and who the mafia probably would or wouldn't NK.

[RestFermata]

EBWOP. *He

did

too much talking

[elvis_knits]

I know this is sort of stupid for me to be grilling you over your suspicions of IG since I am also suspicious of IG. But when did you start being suspicious of him? I have this feeling that you only started talking about him after I attacked him... which makes me uneasy.

[RestFermata]

I'd always been a little wary of him, but I thought he hadn't posted enough to get a clear read. When StD brought IG up in conjunction with his suspicions of me, it reminded me of the fact that I was letting him go unnoticed (by me). I thought I'd give his posts another read, so I displayed just his posts and read them. That's when I noticed all his weird anti-town speculation.

[farside22]

vote count:

kmd4390 1 vote: (xtoxm)
Elvis_Knits 1 vote: (Inspector Godot)
reborn537 2 votes: (LlamaFluff, Save the Dragons)

LlamaFluff 2 votes: (babygirl, reborn537)

babygirl86 1 votes: (kloud1516)
Inspector Godot 1 vote: (RestFermata)

Not voting:

Elvis_Knits
kmd4390
GhostWriter

With 12 people it take 7 votes for lynch
Day 1 ends August 25th, 4:00pm PST.

What is that red in the vote. Well that's who's butt in currently ready to be kicked come deadline

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[elvis_knits]

I'm trying to decide whether I want to vote IG or KMD more. I also want to look at reborn. I'm not sure what I think of him, but since he has 2 votes I want to see if it's something I could agree with. We're getting close to deadline so we've got to reach a consensus. I'll try to vote later today to help move things along.

[Kmd4390]

Entirely WIFOM. Scum excuse scum tells by calling them too obvious and saying scum would never do such a thing.

I'm talking theory, not practice. I'm saying that scum who pay attention or even scum who think logically are going to avoid doing things like draw attention to themselves. I'm not saying they're going to avoid it to be like the town.

Basically, if I get caught being overeager in one game, I'm going to be less likely to throw myself out there in my next game as scum. I guess I worded my statement wrong. I apologize. I did not mean to imply that all scum avoided scumtells.

Agreed. People aren't likely to make the same slip twice. They won't make a slip they saw in a recent game. They will still slip though.

If we set aside the WIFOM parts (which I'll admit, I'm not so keen on myself since my understanding of WIFOM is fuzzy at best), how does the rest of my argument fair, kmd?

I don't like they way reborn saw your case as a defense of llama. That's what I'm wondering about right now.

All I can think of is that in a game like this, experienced scum will often lurk because so many other players are doing it so they can get away with it.

I'm pretty sure farsidemod is being ruthless about prodding and replacing players. I don't think lurking is an issue in this game. If you disagree, who do you think is guilty of it?

Wow, I can't believe I did that. I was thinking of another game in which there are very few active players. Ignore that statement....


Still catching up....

[Kmd4390]

Nowhere. I was talking about theme games in general. In many of the ones I've read there have been safeclaims.

FoS: Fermata

reasoning?

[Kmd4390]

Scum might tend to be a little less careful on the balancing act.

I've always thought that scum are

more

careful with what they post.

What is the advantage of breadcrumbing in a theme game, where scum often have safeclaims anyway?

I think it's mostly the same advantages as when there are not safe claims. For scum or town, they both want the same thing... It can help people believe your claim. It can help them trust you even before you claim (if they pick up on your crumb and believe you). But it can also backfire and get you lynched or NK'ed. So it really depends on the role and how much you think is good to risk.

It's not hard to breadcrumb for a future fakeclaim.

No, he wasn't advising other scum, he was just speculating about information that might help the scum. He was just being very...un-careful, something that town can't afford to be. I pointed them out in my case against IG in post 292. He too much talking about power roles and who the mafia probably would or wouldn't NK.

I agree that there was too much power role speculation.
Did IG ever respond about that?

I'm trying to decide whether I want to vote IG or KMD more. I also want to look at reborn.

Reasoning please?

[farside22]

Prodding babygirl. Last post 08/16 11:48am

[elvis_knits]

I'm trying to decide whether I want to vote IG or KMD more. I also want to look at reborn.

Reasoning please?

Well I disagreed with you about BG even before her claim. But I do think your reasoning was okay -- the point about her bandwagoning almost everyone is not horrible reason to vote a person. Just the fact that I had a different read on her despite the fact of her bandwagoning. So that reason is sort of "meh."

But I guess the main reason is that I didn't like that you criticized me for calling reborn's vote an OMGUS. It reads to me like a subtle defense of reborn. Do you think reborn's vote was not OMGUS? Why were you looking to criticize me over that?

[RestFermata]

Scum would be more careful in general, but as far as revealing things that might help the scum, I could imagine them accidentally slipping on that a few times.

[babygirl86]

I'm here- had an incredibly busy past few days- I'm about to leave for work but I'll try and get a reread done by tomorrow

[Kmd4390]

But I guess the main reason is that I didn't like that you criticized me for calling reborn's vote an OMGUS. It reads to me like a subtle defense of reborn. Do you think reborn's vote was not OMGUS? Why were you looking to criticize me over that?

Well, I think it may have been partially OMGUS. It was just the fact that there was a case on you and regardless of whether or not it was a good one, your post consisted of only "OMGUS much?"

[elvis_knits]

I am not sure I understand you. What does "the fact that there was a case on you" have anything to do with it?

[LlamaFluff]

I think reborn and IG are better paths then trying to figure out if RF slipped or not, especially with a deadline approaching that I will have limited access around

With all replacement I have been pondering the possiblity of an extention. If enough people request an extention one will be given but it will most likely only be a 4 day extention at best.

[reborn537]

LF you still haven't presented a case on me.

[Kmd4390]

I am not sure I understand you. What does "the fact that there was a case on you" have anything to do with it?

You could have defended with more than 2 words.

With all replacement I have been pondering the possiblity of an extention. If enough people request an extention one will be given but it will most likely only be a 4 day extention at best.

An extension would be great.

As you said, there have been some replacements and the extra time would only help.

[thinktank]

Mod: An extension would be great

[RestFermata]

Vote: Extension

[reborn537]

4th on the extension bandwagon

[farside22]

Extension granted. New deadline is Thursday August 28th 4:00pm PST. I can not extend this any further as I will be gone for the holiday weekend myself.

[reborn537]

That is most generous.

[RestFermata]

Yes, thank you, mod.

[Save The Dragons]

Yay for extension.

Yay for being happy with my vote.