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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:16 am

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I don't think that's necessary anymore tbh. I think it's more valuable to let S_S to target whoever he wants to try and roleblock the kill
He's very likely town based on targeting me N1. Unless he thought I could be a wildcard cop who grabbed it?????
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:16 am

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oh i get how that clears s_s. dunno if that's the best course of action though.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:19 am

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Yeah, we may or may not actually want to do it but it seemed worth pointing out the possibility for consideration.
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:20 am

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Also:
In post 1714, Grumpy Cat wrote:I'm.the neighbouriser. Targeted Gypyx N1 and it didn't go through, so can confirm S_S's block.
Dude, Grumpy, we were supposed to claim masons, you screwed up the gambit
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:21 am

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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:24 am

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In post 2, davesaz wrote:Night 3 Vigilante OR Vengeful
Jailkeeper OR Tracker
we're missing these two right? obviously if any of the VTs tried for either now's the time to say it etc etc
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:26 am

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Damn, sorry. It seemed like Datisi had suffered enough waiting for me to claim, I didn't want to put him through that again.

I can confirm Umlaut is jailkeeper though. He told me in the PT he wasn't planning on claiming it yet, but guess he changed his mind.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:27 am

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Hunh.
  • Peta and Clover are mechanically cleared
  • Datisi and Grumpy are almost mechanically cleared
  • I'm town
If S_S is town too then I guess the last scum did bus both their buddies after all.
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:47 am

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i have no results to share that contradict anyone’s claim, so yeah, not confirming whether or not i have used my shot
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:52 am

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Full role list (flips + claims)

DrDolittle [8] - Rolecop
Something_Smart [9] - Roleblocker
Umlaut [21] - vanilla (req. Universal Backup)
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[1] - 1-Shot Vigilante
Datisi [1] - Cop
Clover Ebi
[3] - vanilla
the worst [3] - vanilla (req. Universal Backup)
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Iconeum [5] - vanilla (req. Universal Backup)
Grumpy Cat [11] - Neighborizer
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[11] - vanilla
petapan
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iamausername [4] - 1-Shot Watcher
Green Crayons [4] - vanilla

So far this all hangs together. As Datisi pointed out, if any of our VTs requested any of {Night 3 Vigilante, Vengeful, Jailkeeper, Tracker}, you should say so now because it means someone above you is lying.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:55 am

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spicey

so we have
yes {Clover, petapan}
literally throwing if scum {Datisi, S_S, Grumpy Cat}
no {DDL, Umlaut, tw, username, Crayons, Ico}

so we just execute someone in no and then leash each of me, Datisi, Grumpy to a different target in no. we should be able to autowin and then some; Datisi being scum is the only scenario where this is not ENTIRELY clear but I think it still is.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:08 am

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My bet's on Green Crayons
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:17 am

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I’ll take that bet.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:18 am

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Not convinced S_S is cleared but certainly think he’s a late game elim if we leash per grump target.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:19 am

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Oh I picked cop bc I believe once I played this setup and nobody picked cop and it was lol
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:20 am

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In post 1738, Green Crayons wrote:Not convinced S_S is cleared but certainly think he’s a late game elim if we leash per grump target.
I don't have to be; if I'm scum, I have to keep clearing people and I'll eventually run out of people to clear.
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:21 am

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Oh I see
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:21 am

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Do the #s add up? If you’re scum and in terms of who you clear vs nk/day elim?
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:22 am

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Like in terms of we already have enough clears + whoever else you add + we elim from the “no” pool
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:24 am

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Currently: {3 cleared} {Datisi, S_S alive} {6 uncleared} -> Execute uncleared, RB an uncleared, Datisi is killed
{4 cleared} {S_S} {4 uncleared} -> Execute uncleared, RB uncleared, cleared is killed
{4 cleared} {S_S} {2 uncleared} -> At this point, there are enough executions to kill everyone including me.

If I ever stop killing then we can just burn through the uncleared and hit me last; that does me no good.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:25 am

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Similar logic holds for Datisi, except it actually happens faster because he and I both get a clear tonight even if he kills me.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:26 am

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And this is all assuming that Grumpy successfully neighborizes while a kill happens; if he isn't able to, then obviously we kill him instead.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:26 am

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Righteous
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:27 am

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If that’s the case and this game is locked up then I don’t really care if I’m first to go other than I’m not scum and I’m helped sway both the D1 1v1 that had a scum on it and then I’m pretty sure I was a big motivator in the gypyx elim.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:28 am

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Who is the pool for elim?
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