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[Flavor Leaf]

If Gamma can get a false inno, then why are we putting so much trust in an investigative on NM?

And in the first place, why do we need an investigative on NM if we can just flip him now.

I would be more apprehensive if I hadn't seen Town NM be a tour de force

Again +1.

DP, thanks for your sacrifice. Promise to not stop giving FL shit in his faded people party when NM flips scum here.

THIS IS THE GOD FUCKING DAMN REASON FOR MY FUCKING FIRE RIGHT NOW IN THE FIRST PLACE

NOT MAFIA FLIPS SCUM PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO FUCKING FLAVOR SCUM

BUT AMPHAROS AND GAMMA SETUP A FUCKING SITUATION WHERE IF NOT MAFIA FLIPS TOWN THEY GONNA GO FUCKING FLAVOR SCUM

I AM FUCKING TOWN

[Flavor Leaf]

This entire fucking situation as been setup by scum.

Not Mafia is town because of it

[BrightEyedFish]

If Gamma can get a false inno, then why are we putting so much trust in an investigative on NM?

And in the first place, why do we need an investigative on NM if we can just flip him now.

I would be more apprehensive if I hadn't seen Town NM be a tour de force

Again +1.

DP, thanks for your sacrifice. Promise to not stop giving FL shit in his faded people party when NM flips scum here.

THIS IS THE GOD FUCKING DAMN REASON FOR MY FUCKING FIRE RIGHT NOW IN THE FIRST PLACE

NOT MAFIA FLIPS SCUM PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO FUCKING FLAVOR SCUM

BUT AMPHAROS AND GAMMA SETUP A FUCKING SITUATION WHERE IF NOT MAFIA FLIPS TOWN THEY GONNA GO FUCKING FLAVOR SCUM

I AM FUCKING TOWN

You obvtowned to me pretty early in this game. It would take some substantial stuff to make that read change.

[BrightEyedFish]

This entire fucking situation as been setup by scum.

Not Mafia is town because of it

Haya and DP set this up.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey, Boon. Stop tunneling for a second.

If you believe Gamma can be fake inno'd and town believes that then they wouldn't autoclear Gamma and Nancy would be wise not to use their role there.

Conversely, isn't a bus driver given the option who to redirect? I.e. they can choose to redirect other players and not confirm themselves on a gambit.

These arguments take too many assumptions in play where in a competent town can just discuss it?

I’m the only town that does believe this because for some reason everytime I’m town I’m the only one who knows anything that’s going on.

(Fwiw, I do think Jjh has played a strong town game, and does know what’s going on when they are around, so disclude him from that)

[Flavor Leaf]

This entire fucking situation as been setup by scum.

Not Mafia is town because of it

Haya and DP set this up.

This is a surface level comment.

I could see Hayasaka and Ampharos being setup.

DrP did not set this up.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m really loud right now, but know I’m just a loud passionate person and I’m not doing it necessarily in anger or hate

[BrightEyedFish]

This entire fucking situation as been setup by scum.

Not Mafia is town because of it

Haya and DP set this up.

This is a surface level comment.

I could see Hayasaka and Ampharos being setup.

DrP did not set this up.

I mean that Haya wanted to Gladiate so he did. DrP agreed to use his venge on who the majority wanted.

NM has been a frontrunner for the venge since the beginning iirc.

[DoctorPepper]

If you think Gamma is scum, you gotta convince town, isn't that the point.

You have the Nancy Hydra on Gamma as well and so does BEF.


I'm super concerned right now that you DONT want NM flipped.

I have seen Town NM and this is not

the town NM

that I saw.

[BrightEyedFish]

I’m really loud right now, but know I’m just a loud passionate person and I’m not doing it necessarily in anger or hate

Really, I'm not trying to fuel your fire. Your "passion" is coming through in your posts. I just think it's the wrong play.

[Flavor Leaf]

DrP, please don’t shoot Not Mafia.

Talking about Not Mafia tomorrow is not a bad thing. Preserving the life of a single townie is incredibly powerful.

I will get him to do stuff tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you think Gamma is scum, you gotta convince town, isn't that the point.

You have the Nancy Hydra on Gamma as well and so does BEF.


I'm super concerned right now that you DONT want NM flipped.

I have seen Town NM and this is not

the town NM

that I saw.

How many times have you seen townNM compared to scumNM? Because I’ve played upwards of 12+ games with Not Mafia, probably more.

[Flavor Leaf]

This entire fucking situation as been setup by scum.

Not Mafia is town because of it

Haya and DP set this up.

This is a surface level comment.

I could see Hayasaka and Ampharos being setup.

DrP did not set this up.

I mean that Haya wanted to Gladiate so he did. DrP agreed to use his venge on who the majority wanted.

NM has been a frontrunner for the venge since the beginning iirc.

And even back then I stated I didn’t want to have Not Mafia Venged.

My stance is not new.

[Flavor Leaf]

My read on Not Mafia, is far more developed than Ampharos’. They have completely positioned themselves in a way where no matter what, I will come off as the person who will take the heat.

They’re also kissing up to everyone by telling them what they want to hear.

This list includes, KD, DrPepper, and Nancy, could be more, but this is off the top of my head.

I no longer think there is a scum in DrP and NM.

[DoctorPepper]

Here's the thing.

I find a discussion on Gamma tomorrow to be more productive because you have more to go off on.

NM? Well half the town will be on him again and since he literally disappeared without reasonable reads, then the discussion fails.

You know why I'm shooting NM?

Town NM would have told me to shoot someone else

Because town NM advocated for the Vig of my scumbuddies in the last game we played together

[Flavor Leaf]

Ampharos/Gamma team is suddenly emerging.

Gamma acting like my posts were changing after his defeatist act, BS

[Flavor Leaf]

Here's the thing.

I find a discussion on Gamma tomorrow to be more productive because you have more to go off on.

NM? Well half the town will be on him again and since he literally disappeared without reasonable reads, then the discussion fails.

You know why I'm shooting NM?

Town NM would have told me to shoot someone else

Because town NM advocated for the Vig of my scumbuddies in the last game we played together

HE DID.

HE SAID “PLEASE DONT VENGE ME”

[DoctorPepper]

Link me to a town and a scum game of NM like I did (you can find it in my ISOs)

ScumNM there is very similar to NM here. Town NM, while having the same posting style, I know realize actually tried to do something

[DoctorPepper]

JFC, Please don't venge me is different from "Venge Gamma/Tris/whoever" instead

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t give a damn what NM’s done this game. Gamestate alone and other people’s reactions towards this is why he’s town.

[BrightEyedFish]

Alright, well I'm off to a early bed time. Its a fun dialogue going on right now but RL beckons.

DrP, You know where I stand but I will support your decision if you decide someone else is better.

[Flavor Leaf]

i worry that FL's a wolf caught in a spot where he's not quite sure how to position himself around the inevitable flip of a low hanging villager,

Setting me up for Not MafiaTown flip here. And it’s also hidden in the middle of a post that’s kinda blocky.

In what world am I ever going to be caught up about positioning myself around someone like Not Mafia here.

Sure, I can understand if someone is pushing me as a partner to NM, but this is completely manipulative to the gamestate 100%.

[Flavor Leaf]

maybe i am being pocketed because of how i'm empathizing with her statements.

time to actually do that ISOing i said i would

Ampharos is literally just telling everyone what they want to hear, and not hard committing on any slot really, yet trying to make me take a hard stance, then setting up that no matter what Not Mafia flips, I look bad for it?

Yeah, right.

Venge that slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

NM is fadeable. If Not Mafia isn’t venged, they will go down still.

Ampharos red flip also would effectively clear both myself and NM.

[DoctorPepper]

FL, I feel like you've tunneled way too hard and are insisting on this too much.

My recommendation is for you to redirect your energy into a case for Gamma because guess what, you aren't the only one to scum read him and you have the support of BEF and Venus who also think he is scum.

If you say "he can be fake inno'd" then town isn't stupid enough to just take his inno at face value

If you really believe Gamma is scum, you'll get him tomorrow.

I don't want tomorrow to be a whole "we should have venged NM" thing where in town literally spends half the day on their ass fighting about the NM slot