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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:02 am

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In post 1996, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1992, BrightEyedFish wrote:Scum would TOTALLY want town!NM alive as long as possible.
Scum would want scum Not Mafia alive too.
Yes. I know.

Scum want NM alive if he is town or scum. So why should we do what scum wants?
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:02 am

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In post 1993, Gamma Emerald wrote:To think this is what my scumgame should resemble is to seriously disrespect my abilities.
Saying this but doing the exact thing tenfold to me, alright.

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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:02 am

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In post 1997, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamma also says “i reacted the worst” wtf, that’s never a statement that’s about ScumMe, and they know that.

Also, I didn’t react at all to your thing. I legit didn’t care.
Everyone else at least reacted okay
If I'm wrong, who am I wrong on (besides Amphy)?
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:03 am

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In post 2002, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1997, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamma also says “i reacted the worst” wtf, that’s never a statement that’s about ScumMe, and they know that.

Also, I didn’t react at all to your thing. I legit didn’t care.
Everyone else at least reacted okay
If I'm wrong, who am I wrong on (besides Amphy)?
I didn’t fucking react to you at all, i stayed with my own reads and I’ve been checked out for days now.

Like your self defeatist act was a simple footnote in my head, it mattered that little.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:03 am

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In post 2000, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 1996, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1992, BrightEyedFish wrote:Scum would TOTALLY want town!NM alive as long as possible.
Scum would want scum Not Mafia alive too.
Yes. I know.

Scum want NM alive if he is town or scum. So why should we do what scum wants?
As town, I want townNM alive.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:04 am

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To read Not Mafia, you look at a mixture of his posts and the gamestate around him.

There is some much contention around NM, that in no world do I see him as scum here. I have said this about ScumHim before, but still.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:04 am

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NM is a no info kill and quite honestly the only reason I'm okay with it is that I know a town NM is more active than this
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:05 am

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Listen, its DPs call. He can do what he wants but me and the majority are settled on the NM fade. Changing that last minute is just a slap in the face and just puts us back to square one tomorrow.
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:05 am

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Gamma’s gonna get false Inno’d because of a bus drive, then I’m gonna get misfaded tomorrow.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:06 am

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Boon, townNM cares about the game and will push for their targets to be eliminated. Was the victim of this play in my last game.

Town NM is a very useful slot for town. Him just disappearing just makes me think he is scum here
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:07 am

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In post 2007, BrightEyedFish wrote:Listen, its DPs call. He can do what he wants but me and the majority are settled on the NM fade. Changing that last minute is just a slap in the face and just puts us back to square one tomorrow.
Disagree.

Not Mafia gets killed here, flips town, then I get misfaded tomorrow.

Killing NM directly leads to an endgame situation
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:07 am

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In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1993, Gamma Emerald wrote:To think this is what my scumgame should resemble is to seriously disrespect my abilities.
Saying this but doing the exact thing tenfold to me, alright.

Shoot this
Except I don't think my game has ever been rated highly, so it's probable people are operating off of dated conceptions. And I do rate your abilities highly but not not at god-tier. I've had plenty of times where I've locked onto Scum!you for whatever reason, several times I recall you've deflected with the "that's how I am" defense. I've caught you at least once off of your engagement with me, so don't act like I can't do it again and me trying to do so is a scum move.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:07 am

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In post 2009, DoctorPepper wrote:Boon, townNM cares about the game and will push for their targets to be eliminated. Was the victim of this play in my last game.

Town NM is a very useful slot for town. Him just disappearing just makes me think he is scum here
He does care.

He’s been popping in asking not to be Venged multiple times.

He’s basically begged you. That is caring for NM.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:09 am

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In post 2012, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2009, DoctorPepper wrote:Boon, townNM cares about the game and will push for their targets to be eliminated. Was the victim of this play in my last game.

Town NM is a very useful slot for town. Him just disappearing just makes me think he is scum here
He does care.

He’s been popping in asking not to be Venged multiple times.

He’s basically begged you. That is caring for NM.
Except he hasn't pushed anything in response

btw, the fact FL has posted so much in response to me tells me I'm onto something, I do notice he gets very defensive when pressed as scum
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 2011, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1993, Gamma Emerald wrote:To think this is what my scumgame should resemble is to seriously disrespect my abilities.
Saying this but doing the exact thing tenfold to me, alright.

Shoot this
Except I don't think my game has ever been rated highly, so it's probable people are operating off of dated conceptions. And I do rate your abilities highly but not not at god-tier. I've had plenty of times where I've locked onto Scum!you for whatever reason, several times I recall you've deflected with the "that's how I am" defense. I've caught you at least once off of your engagement with me, so don't act like I can't do it again and me trying to do so is a scum move.
I got you to claim me as mason and you killed a role cooped Miller in 3p lylo.

You scum read me when I want you to scum read me for gamestate reasons when I’m scum.

I do not care if people scum read me when I am scum.

Honestly, it’s weak play for people to think being able to correctly scum read someone is all it takes.

Eddie Cane and I actively allowed Shoshin and RC to scumread us correctly because it benefited our gamestate before, because doesn’t matter if you scum read someone, if you can’t get them killed.

And here’s the thing, you don’t get scumMe killed. Like ever.

That’s why you should see that I’m town.
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 2013, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2012, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2009, DoctorPepper wrote:Boon, townNM cares about the game and will push for their targets to be eliminated. Was the victim of this play in my last game.

Town NM is a very useful slot for town. Him just disappearing just makes me think he is scum here
He does care.

He’s been popping in asking not to be Venged multiple times.

He’s basically begged you. That is caring for NM.
Except he hasn't pushed anything in response

btw, the fact FL has posted so much in response to me tells me I'm onto something, I do notice he gets very defensive when pressed as scum
FALSE!!!!

I get defensive when pressed as TOWN.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:12 am

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ScumMe is NOT the defensive type, they are the offensive type.

Town me, I flail constantly, and I flip flop reads, and I tunnel
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 2014, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2011, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1993, Gamma Emerald wrote:To think this is what my scumgame should resemble is to seriously disrespect my abilities.
Saying this but doing the exact thing tenfold to me, alright.

Shoot this
Except I don't think my game has ever been rated highly, so it's probable people are operating off of dated conceptions. And I do rate your abilities highly but not not at god-tier. I've had plenty of times where I've locked onto Scum!you for whatever reason, several times I recall you've deflected with the "that's how I am" defense. I've caught you at least once off of your engagement with me, so don't act like I can't do it again and me trying to do so is a scum move.
I got you to claim me as mason and you killed a role cooped Miller in 3p lylo.

You scum read me when I want you to scum read me for gamestate reasons when I’m scum.

I do not care if people scum read me when I am scum.

Honestly, it’s weak play for people to think being able to correctly scum read someone is all it takes.

Eddie Cane and I actively allowed Shoshin and RC to scumread us correctly because it benefited our gamestate before, because doesn’t matter if you scum read someone, if you can’t get them killed.

And here’s the thing, you don’t get scumMe killed. Like ever.

That’s why you should see that I’m town.
Pretty sure I've helped get you killed twice: Project ARCH and one of NSG's normals. Also, the mason gambit was my idea alone, and the miller miselim was because I didn't realize it wasn't a valid mafia role. So that's on me, not you. As for "gamestate reasons", yes that's true but I've also caught onto that the past few times (though iirc the last time it happened I got NKed before I could focus in on it)
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:14 am

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Uhh he hasn't posted for 3 irl days.

And there's a clear difference with his play of don't venge me from what I've seen as town him, who really pushed for his reads to be pushed.

The only reason I'm hesitating is that Gamma right now is Really scummy
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:14 am

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In post 2016, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumMe is NOT the defensive type, they are the offensive type.

Town me, I flail constantly, and I flip flop reads, and I tunnel
I think your town meta is here is about accurate. Scum meta, not at all. Think about how you got as scum in Project ARCH.
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:15 am

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As scum, I choose what type of reaction I have to certain situations, so it’s not that I do something as scum. That just isn’t a thing.

I can post like 5 scum games and show drastically different reactions. My scum game’s limitless.

My town game is top notch. If I’m wrong on my reads this game, it’s because scum have been making sure I don’t garner momentum, but I will get the right solve.


@Auro - this happened when I tunneled Ankamius that one game, while she was town, I definitely needed her dead to get out of the tunnel to solve the game we did, the one with insomnia and we solved.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:15 am

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In post 2019, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2016, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumMe is NOT the defensive type, they are the offensive type.

Town me, I flail constantly, and I flip flop reads, and I tunnel
I think your town meta is here is about accurate. Scum meta, not at all. Think about how you got as scum in Project ARCH.
People keep bringing that game up, but like, I didn’t give a single fuck about that game.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:16 am

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I was scum in 4 different games simultaneaously at the time, if I remember correclty
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:16 am

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In post 2002, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1997, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamma also says “i reacted the worst” wtf, that’s never a statement that’s about ScumMe, and they know that.

Also, I didn’t react at all to your thing. I legit didn’t care.
Everyone else at least reacted okay
If I'm wrong, who am I wrong on (besides Amphy)?
Anyway, you gonna engage this at all?
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:17 am

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In post 2021, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2019, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2016, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumMe is NOT the defensive type, they are the offensive type.

Town me, I flail constantly, and I flip flop reads, and I tunnel
I think your town meta is here is about accurate. Scum meta, not at all. Think about how you got as scum in Project ARCH.
People keep bringing that game up, but like, I didn’t give a single fuck about that game.
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