Mini 634 - The Baron's court: Game over

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(8 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)

Not voting:

Gremwell, MafiaMann, Mariyta, Rage, raverblood, sekinj, Singing Librarian, thinktank

Deadline:

Thursday 4 September 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[MafiaMann]

The admiral did have a vote on maryata just a possiblity.

[Mariyta]

The admiral did have a vote on maryata just a possiblity.

Mar

iy

ta

It's pronounced Mar-EE-ta.

[thinktank]

The admiral did have a vote on maryata just a possiblity.

Don't analyze NKs. Only leads to WIFOM.

[sekinj]

So, I'm wondering if I am insane...

and it turns out ThAdmiral was being serious when he said he was at the Village Inn. According to my notes, there are two more sections, and only one of those sections is currently in use.

[Mariyta]

I see a few possibilities besides OMGL is lieing or sekinj is lieing...

I like this. One of them doesn't necessarily have to be scum, they could both be somewhere in between. I still need to hear from OMGL though..

We know definitely that one of them is lying. Figuring out which one is lying is a herculean feat in itself because it seems that even they do not know which one of them is lying. Meaning either one or both of them are scum or some of the information that they've been given is false, which is also bad for the town.

A) Which is it? B) Do you still feel the same?

Raver

: Doesn't posit a single thought of his own. "Gets" an idea from Rage (about the people being closest to the baron), then votes Rage after thinktank throws a stink

Gremwell

: Has made exactly zero useful posts, jumps on the OGML wagon at the last minute.

Vote Gremwell

Also, I'm still unsure about how to take Sekinj. If he was really giving us the information he has, it's obviously false or he interpreted wrong. He could just as easily have that information as scum, though I can't fathom why scum would claim so early.

[MafiaMann]

Sekinj what do you have to say about OMGL turning up town.

[sekinj]

^ I already said it. Makes me wonder if I'm insane...

[MafiaMann]

One thing id like to point out is we have no proof that OMGL has a night choice. Yes it makes no sense for a protown player to lie like that but still.

@Sekinj when can we expect more hints for finding mafia.

[sekinj]

Mar

iy

ta: If you are going insist we type your name right, I'm going to insist you take notice of my gender.

[Mariyta]

So, I'm wondering if I am insane...

and it turns out ThAdmiral was being serious when he said he was at the Village Inn. According to my notes, there are two more sections, and only one of those sections is currently in use.

Would you mind telling us what those sections are? Please don't tell us which one is in use, however. Leaving that information hidden may be useful for a scum-trap later on.

[Mariyta]

Mar

iy

ta: If you are going insist we type your name right, I'm going to insist you take notice of my gender.

Yes, I'm sorry about that. I know you're a girl, but for some reason, I never remember until I finish typing.

[Mariyta]

So, I'm wondering if I am insane...

and it turns out ThAdmiral was being serious when he said he was at the Village Inn. According to my notes, there are two more sections, and only one of those sections is currently in use.

Would you mind telling us what those sections are? Please don't tell us which one is in use, however. Leaving that information hidden may be useful for a scum-trap later on.

On second thought, please don't tell us just yet.

[sekinj]

The posts Mar brought up from thinktank are very interesting. Why would he contradict himself so badly?

I DO know that two townies counter-claiming each other and the town saying one has to be lynched on one day and then the other the next day is any scum's wet dream. I'm sure the scum were very "helpful" in pushing the binary option along.

I will be looking back through with that in mind. For now, I'd really like Think to explain his flop.

FoS: think

[sekinj]

Oh, don't worry, I don't know the sections, just how many there are. I've kept track in my notes and 3 sections have been mentioned so far. There is one more section currently in use, and then a 5th section that will come into play later in the game.

[sekinj]

so, no, I couldn't tell you the names of the sections even if I wanted. However, each person began the game in a certain section. It looks like the admiral died in the same section he began the game in.

[ThAdmiral]

Dammit, I had a really good plan in this game.

Good luck town!

[raverblood]

Raver

: Doesn't posit a single thought of his own. "Gets" an idea from Rage (about the people being closest to the baron), then votes Rage after thinktank throws a stink

yes i did vote rage however i unvoted when rage did point out that he was against massclaiming from the beginning. i voted rage for trying to get omgl to claim because i felt it was scummy.

i dont mean to "get my ideas" (which i dont feel on everything. still feel sek power thing is something). just to only get a short time to get online to actually view every post on here. so when i am using my phone i post what i think is the most important items.

[sekinj]

I would like to submit exibit A in defense of my sanity:

ca·pri·cious –adjective
1. subject to, led by, or indicative of caprice or whim; erratic: He's such a capricious boss I never know how he'll react.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/capricious

[Gremwell]

I voted OGML because we were at deadline and approaching a NL, which stated in the rules would result in bad things for the town. What else could I do in that position? As for useful posts I am sorry about that, and you can expect that to change.

All in all it doesn't seem enough to warrant a vote.

[Rage]

Right off the bat, I want to say that this post is kinda-rushed and kinda-non-sequential because I want to make a bigger post later. I believe there is a LOT of things we have not cleared up from yesterday, and I had a lot of questions to ask OhGodMyLife, so the hammer from Gremwell isn't helping my perception of him(?) as pro-town. Moving on..

I think it's a pretty reliable guess to think that a Squire has no night action. If anyone doesn't know what a Squire is, I think I can cough up a definition somewhere. So, I'd like to say that I'm confident Sekinj will be the lynch for today. I'm not putting my vote on her now because I believe this day will be very useful for discussion about the previous day, and for looking back upon in future days. That said,

FoS: Sekinj

Opinionated Role Speculation:

"Cook" is probably similar to a Baker, who has the ability to cause Town to lose after a certain number of days. This would mean that Town has a limited amount of Days to scumhunt, the only other limitation being the night-kill. More speculation, I'm thinking that there is only one scum faction in this game with at least 3 players, seeing as how both Nights have consisted of only one night-kill. 3 players seems the likeliest option for a Night start game with 11, which in this case would mean that this game has essentially 10 players, with the added 'bonus' of one Townie dead. I don't consider it a bonus, I was just trying to be witty. Also, I apologize to Nightson for casting him/her out, but, ya know, you are quite dead.

yes i did vote rage however i unvoted when rage did point out that he was against massclaiming from the beginning. i voted rage for trying to get omgl to claim because i felt it was scummy.

Why exactly did you vote for me? You said it was because I wanted mass-claiming, which is not true, but now you say it was because I wanted OGML to claim. That is 1 of 10 players alive at the time. I'd hardly consider that mass-claiming.

I voted OGML because we were at deadline and approaching a NL, which stated in the rules would result in bad things for the town. What else could I do in that position?

As for useful posts I am sorry about that

, and you can expect that to change.

Sorry, but I couldn't help laughing at the underlined part. I know it's probably not your intention, but that's how I read it. As for your reasoning behind your hammering vote of OhGodMyLife, you probably should have mentioned that when you were actually doing the vote. Now that other players have said that they were afraid of the deadline, and I'll admit that I didn't like the consequence, scum could easily slide on "I was afraid of the deadline". As for what I believe "could've been done" in that position is properly review the suspicions against all the players in the game, decide upon and state which ones you agree with, and from there decide whether or not you wanted the OhGodMyLife lynch. The outcome of the alignment of the player doesn't matter, seeing as how there was a deadline, and hammering a scum would definitely appear pretty pro-town

at first glance

.

However, each person began the game in a certain section.

You know where everyone started, or the fact that players start somewhere, thus implying that they have the ability to move? I don't know about you, but my role can't move where I stay during the night.

On to Sekinj, I do not believe the insane thing; The WIFOM is too tremendous. As an example, if you know:

Oh, don't worry, I don't know the sections, just how many there are. I've kept track in my notes and 3 sections have been mentioned so far. There is one more section currently in use, and then a 5th section that will come into play later in the game.

yet you say you might be insane, isn't there some major contradiction there?

So, I'm wondering if I am insane...

Makes me wonder if I'm insane...

I would like to submit exibit A in defense of my sanity:

ca·pri·cious –adjective
1. subject to, led by, or indicative of caprice or whim; erratic: He's such a capricious boss I never know how he'll react.

Firstly, quote-number-the-third comes makes absolutely no defense. You think you are insane, yet you provide nothing about what exactly you are defending by saying "I'm defending my sanity". You called yourself insane! Secondly, if you have to mention it three times, I'm doubting it's true. Thirdly, that isn't

your

nickname.

Anyways, I had a lot of stuff I wanted to clear up, so I made a pre-written version that I wanted to post before, so now I just have to edit it to make sense for

this

day. That post shall come soon. To clarify, my top three suspects are currently:

• Sekinj
  
• Gremwell
  
• Mafiamann

*Note that this post may seem very grammatically incorrect, so I apologize for any skimmers who just want to blaze through a wall of text. Enjoy, nonetheless.

[Gremwell]

As for your reasoning behind your hammering vote of OhGodMyLife, you probably should have mentioned that when you were actually doing the vote. Now that other players have said that they were afraid of the deadline, and I'll admit that I didn't like the consequence, scum could easily slide on "I was afraid of the deadline".

It would make little difference if I said that in my post or after it, people had already mentioned before my vote that a no lynch would be extra bad for the town so it would still be a null tell.

What about those who didn't vote? Did you not vote because you were in favor of a no lynch, or you didn't think there was enough reason to vote for anyone.

I felt that regardless of how I felt of OGML that a mislynch> a No lynch, that said, from what I was able to reread at the time his refusal to claim to save his skin was reading scummy to me and he would have most likely been my first choice anyhow.

[sekinj]

@Rage: You are either not understanding me at all or purposefully twisting my words. I will explain again. When OGML counter claimed me, I wondered about my sanity, because I coudn't understand what he was gaining from lying. When he turned up town for sure, I again wondered about my own sanity. (Maybe my player is insane, but doesn't know it). Then, I noticed OGML's nickname which means that he was fickle and reactionary. That can easily explain why he counterclaimed me while still being town. Therefore, I AM telling the truth and I AM NOT crazy. Maybe it was written into OGML's character that he will die if he does not counter claim the first player that claims, I know I myself have received threats on my life based on events in the game.

and about the sections: (By SECTION I am refering to The Village Inn or the Guest Quarters, ETC.) All I know is how many sections there are. I know the names of the sections people have died in so far (just liek everyone else), and the name of my own section, I know that there is currently one more section in use (which I dont' know the name of), and an additional section that will be in use later. For right now it looks like everyone has died in the same section they started in, however, if another seciton will be in use later, apparently some people will be moving.. this is specualtion, I don't know how that is going to work.

For right now I am suspicious of Think and Rage. They both pushed the binary options the most. Rage has not started this day off in any way that changes my opinion of him.(@Rage: I know you will claim OGMUS, but get over it, it's not). I am looking over their posts and will be building a case.

And Grem's vote wasn't a hasty hammer!!! It was a vote cast to save the town from whatever bad thing happens from a no lynch at deadline. it was a VERY pro-town move, and Rage trying to scumatize it is SCUMMY.

[Rage]

And Grem's vote wasn't a hasty hammer!!! It was a vote cast to save the town from whatever bad thing happens from a no lynch at deadline.

Rethink this, please.

'will include rest of post in upcoming post.

[sekinj]

*thinks* hmm... *thinks* Yes! I would much rather mislynch a townie than have a no lynch in this game. We were very close to deadline and most players that hadn't already voted were AWOL. In fact i would rather personally be mislynched as a townie than have a no lynch. If the deadline were coming up and I was L-1 I would vote myself at the last minute as my last pro-town sacrifice.