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[the worst]

ah well, it was fun while it lasted.

[the worst]

this game is gonna be juicy, i can feel it.

[UnaBombaH]

is there anything specific you want me to re-read from zombie or is this a general request?

They used a posting-gimmick in the start of the game, and they only recently broke that character and also revealed their main.
I'ts just that I have no meta on Elements (sorry if I've been butchering that name btw, but I think it was this ), and I simply can't read that gimmick-style in a way that yields me any AI-relevant stuff.

PEDIT: thanks Duck. At least that's something I can return to later.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game is gonna be juicy, i can feel it.

can u kill me early this time instead of making me suffer until lylo thx

[UnaBombaH]

this game is gonna be juicy, i can feel it.

But do you really want it to be spicy AND juicy at the same time? Sounds unpleasent.
Spicy juices everywhere....people screaming..."MY EYES, IT BURNS!"...I've got to put a stop to that.

[UnaBombaH]

I have this idea I've been thinking about since yesterday.
But the problem is that I'm indecisive.

[the worst]

this game is gonna be juicy, i can feel it.

can u kill me early this time instead of making me suffer until lylo thx

*slips gun into pocket*
sorry repeat that?

this game is gonna be juicy, i can feel it.

But do you really want it to be spicy AND juicy at the same time? Sounds unpleasent.
Spicy juices everywhere....people screaming..."MY EYES, IT BURNS!"...I've got to put a stop to that.

juiced cayennes!

I have this idea I've been thinking about since yesterday.
But the problem is that I'm indecisive.

say it i dare u

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've found in my experience that decisive action is usually great for nailing bad guys

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I had a really spicy solve for the game it involved TW/Billy and I don't remember the third player

[UnaBombaH]

You know what would fit well with a solve of TW/BILLY?
...BULLY!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which one is bully?

[UnaBombaH]

We could quasi-leash Nep.
I'm not even sure if that's a thing that works.

But if they want to actually help town, they'd first have to promise that they can actually produce a result/actions that can be confirmed and/or is visible to other players as well.
Then we'd discuss a pool of say three(?) players, and they can choose whichever of the three they like, or think their role fits the best for.
In the case where they aren't killed N1, we can discuss the result and whether or not anything happened to the three players in that pool.

This way we MIGHT be able to close out the scenario where scum!Nep can pick&choose an optimal scenario with their teammates, and we might force their hand in who to kill/block etc.
I have a good reason to think this might work out the best for us.

Thoughts?

[UnaBombaH]

Bully

BULLY!

BULLY!

Bully

Bully

BULLY!

BULLY!

[the worst]

You know what would fit well with a solve of TW/BILLY?
...BULLY!

billy/TFED/me would be wild.

[UnaBombaH]

Billy+Bully just sounds fun.
Nothing deeper than that.

[the worst]

We could quasi-leash Nep.
I'm not even sure if that's a thing that works.

But if they want to actually help town, they'd first have to promise that they can actually produce a result/actions that can be confirmed and/or is visible to other players as well.
Then we'd discuss a pool of say three(?) players, and they can choose whichever of the three they like, or think their role fits the best for.
In the case where they aren't killed N1, we can discuss the result and whether or not anything happened to the three players in that pool.

This way we MIGHT be able to close out the scenario where scum!Nep can pick&choose an optimal scenario with their teammates, and we might force their hand in who to kill/block etc.
I have a good reason to think this might work out the best for us.

Thoughts?

this is the only idea which is substantially worse than bullying nep into fullclaiming imo

[UnaBombaH]

Honestly?
Why?

[the worst]

if she's scum she has a blank canvas to claim with. her picture needs to be very good, or we elim her.
you are suggesting turning that into a choose your own adventure.

please tell me you see how that's a problem

[UnaBombaH]

I thought about it like this (in the scenario of town!Nep):
* Scum can't still know exactly what Neps role is, meaning that they can't for certain know which of the three targets Nep is going for. And that might vary spectacularly depending on whether it's an investigative/protective/Vig etc.
Meaning that scum can't just kill their target unless it's with pure luck -> we likely wouldn't get the scenario of scum!Nep where their claimed target might just be dead in the morning etc
* I feel like this in turn might pressure scum into trying to kill/roleblock Nep instead (which, obviously, should be the likeliest course of action for them in the case of town!Nep)
Meaning that even a Bulletproof-Nep might potentially get something out of their role for the team.

Well, all of these pros are the same for town when we do not leash Nep at all, BUT the reason why I was thinking about it was because I do not fully (read: almost at all) trust them to be town.
And leashing/narrowing them even a little seems like a good option in the scenario of scum!Nep.
Plus our other potential PRs might have a better chance of choosing the same target for Tracks/Watching etc.
Meaning, again that scum!Nep has less room to work with if they want to straight up fakeclaim and lie a result tomorrow.

Dunno, it seems to make sense in my head.

[the worst]

except that it restricts the confines of their narrative
which makes it easier for them to throw us an Adequate narrative

[the worst]

it's like, dubiously-better for us to gate scum!nep fakeclaiming ~mysterious tpr~
it's substantially better for us to create a world where scum need to deal with actual tpr nep

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

duckie-scum is very dangerous when he's making a lot of sense

[the worst]

so is duckie-town.

[UnaBombaH]

except that it restricts the confines of their narrative
which makes it easier for them to throw us an Adequate narrative

Does it though?
I mean, they'd still have to "guess" a claim and action that isn't called out as a lie straight out of the gates.
Plus they still shouldn't have too much information on what the whole setup is like, so they might also scew up their claim in that regard.

[UnaBombaH]

I don't know then.
All I'm saying is that if they claim a roleblock tomorrow, I personally want their scummy ass dead for a lie.