Open 86 - Lovers Multiball (Game Over)

[dybeck]

This lynch has all the hallmarks of a lazy lynch by a town that has closed its mind to other options.

This post has all the hallmarks of scum knowing a townie will be lynched so he can say "told you so" tomorrow.

Almost makes me want to get off the wagon.

Don't just talk about it, do it. If you think he's a townie, stop voting for him. All it needs is a few people to jump off and we can really go scumhunting.

[Raging Rabbit]

Dybeck - you are

so

full of it. This day has been extremely fast paced and very informational, a large amount of analysis-worthy things happened and we definitely have enough to point fingers tommorow, especially assuming we go for a pinguin/Ice (death to the North Pole! ) lynch. Not only that, we are

four days

away from deadline. Do you honestly expect us to get off the well formed, strongest wagon and start voting for lurkers?
You never even bothered to explain what it is that you dislike about the wagon, only said that it sucks and indicative of a lazy town without bothering to refute any of the things the wagon's based on to prove that. It's like your goal isn't really to stop the wagon, it's to say "told ya so!" tommorow if they turn out town.
Also, your posts give an extra alignment knowledge vibe,

that only scum have

. When ThAdmiral said exactly that, you essentialy replied "yep, I am scum and have that knowledge. Whatever. Just get off the wagon I don't like!"

FOS

for now, penguin and Ice are still scummier. Also, you claim to have said similar things in other games. Could you link to one?

@RR- the post following the one where you asked your question answered your question.

I see, you're right. He'd still have to miss the mod's notification that he opened daytalking forums for

everyone

, but your explanation for his odd choice of words is as good as his if not moreso. Just one more reason to want PinguinIce lynched.

[Erratus Apathos]

Dybeck: Why weren't you vocal against the Crazy wagon, when it was as close to a lynch as the Orange/Ice wagon now is?

[dybeck]

When ThAdmiral said exactly that, you essentialy replied "yep, I am scum and have that knowledge. Whatever. Just get off the wagon I don't like!"

Yeah you pretty much paraphrased EXACTLY what I said there. Great work.

mod: conversation is flowing freely. I don't think that a deadline is adding to this game. Can we rescind it temporarily?

[SleepyPanda]

12. Each Day will have a non-retractable 2 week deadline.

[pwnz]

Raging Rabbit wrote:
When ThAdmiral said exactly that, you essentialy replied "yep, I am scum and have that knowledge. Whatever. Just get off the wagon I don't like!"

Yeah you pretty much paraphrased EXACTLY what I said there. Great work.

mod: conversation is flowing freely. I don't think that a deadline is adding to this game. Can we rescind it temporarily?

Looks like scum trying desperately to save his scum buddy.

We really have had a LOT of stuff happen in two weeks time. Literally, about a page-a-day! You must have some sort of alterior motives for wanting people to fly off of the icemanE wagon so suddenly and so close to lynch.

[WaltWishbone]

I am even more happy with my vote now on Iceman knowing that firestarter is his Lover because he was third on my list of suspects. The main thing he did to make me suspect him was cast an erroneous vote, which Adel called him on. Both you and he admit it was to get suspicion off you and also admit was a poor choice. However, yet here you are again, casting a doubt on others to get the pressure off you. This is anti town and scummy.

Also, while I'm immensely impressed with the activity level thus far in this game, I'd like to hear more from:

Harvey Pew
Alabaska J
DarlaBlueEyes
neko2086
cerebus3
pacman281292
icemanE
WaltWishbone - (who, on a side note, quoted Adel's large case on me to justify his vote, which seems odd for (2) reasons - 1, simply referencing it would have worked just fine, thank you, and 2, he states that he has nothing to add, which, while not inherently scummy, is a very easy way to join a bandwagon and make it look, at a glance, as if you've thought a lot about it.)

since they haven't contributed anything of value over the past couple of pages.

It's important to remember that there are a lot of players in this game. We can't let people slide through the cracks.

It's also important to remember that Adel's case is flawed, and that I am town, and as such it follows that all votes should be removed from me promptly.

This is very weak and does not reflect the truth, there have been numerous times in this game and other games when it is best to quote an entire post. For instance Oppossedforce chose to quote the entire post in #549 among others in the game. Adel put a lot of thought into that post and every comment has merit and is relevant. This game is moving fast, it is good that it has been repeated so everyone is given the chance to review it. It was also very complete, I did have little to add to it. It is not joining a bandwagon. I was very careful not to join the crazy bandwagon. Although I still have an fos on him, I feel the stronger case is on you. I put a lot of thought into voting for him as is detailed in my posts#218 and #469, however chose not to vote at that time. I think you know all this, however here you are again trying to get suspicion somewhere else, anywhere else and that is anti town. I am keeping up with the thread, however so far I do not see a defense by either you, your lover or anyone else that compels me to unvote.

[destructor]

.::] Vote Count [::.

Crazy (3)

- icemanE, DarlaBlueEyes, Harvey Pew

charter (1)

- farside22

Firestarter (3)

- neko2086, cerebus3, SleepyPanda

somestrangeflea (1)

- dybeck
*

IcemanE (11)

- Cephrir, Erratus Apathos, Alabaska J, Adel, WaltWishbone, somestrangeflea, sekinj, Crazy, ThAdmiral, charter, Raging Rabbit

Not Voting (5) - armlx, orangepenguin, pwnz, wolframnhart, OpposedForce

Thirteen

votes to lynch.

armlx replaces pacman281291. He has informed me that he will be away until Sunday.

farside22 has requested replacement.

[Cephrir]

12. Each Day will have a non-retractable 2 week deadline.

That's a really dumb rule.

Walt, way to overreact, by the way.

[charter]

Can we get some prods? Particularly Darla.

[icemanE]

however here you are again trying to get suspicion somewhere else, anywhere else and that is anti town.

????? I have been, for almost this entire game, been trying to do two things:

1. Get Crazy lynched.
2. Prevent myself from being lynched.

How the hell is asking lurkers to participate in discussion to help me accomplish one of those two goals anti-town? I challenged your vote on me because I feel it's an easy bandwagon vote. I didn't put forth that you were scummy, in an attempt to "spread suspicion" - in fact, I made note that you AREN'T particularly scummy for joining the bandwagon:

he states that he has nothing to add, which, while not inherently scummy, is a very easy way to join a bandwagon and make it look, at a glance, as if you've thought a lot about it.

@ Crazy -

I've said before that it's easy as pie to fake a paraphrasing of daytalk, so it's essentially worthless as evidence to prevent my lynch. However, I will do anything, at this stage, to prevent a mislynch on myself, as it's quite annoying.

Me - Fire:

Hi.

Fire - Me:

Hi.

Fire - Me:

Don't like the massclaim.

Me - Fire:

Nor do I. Also, I think I know what Adel's scumtell might be.

Me - Fire:

Here's what I think the scumtell is.

Me - Fire: Help me.

Me - Fire: Help me.

Fire - Me/OP: Sorry, I am playing in too many games, goodbye.

OP - Me: Hi. I don't know what Fire was thinking.

Me - OP: Neither do I. Help me.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

ugh. Prod picked up I accidentally deleted this off my watched topics :X

reading now!

[destructor]

DarlaBlueEyes and cerebus3 have been prodded.

[armlx]

Hi, see sig. Will be back to reread and what not by Tuesday.

[Raging Rabbit]

Yeah you pretty much paraphrased EXACTLY what I said there. Great work.

This lynch has all the hallmarks of a lazy lynch by a town that has closed its mind to other options.

This post has all the hallmarks of scum knowing a townie will be lynched so he can say "told you so" tomorrow.

Almost makes me want to get off the wagon.

Don't just talk about it, do it.

If you think he's a townie, stop voting for him. All it needs is a few people to jump off and we can really go scumhunting.

ThAdmiral said that your post looks like scum with predetermined knowledge, which made him want to get off the wagon. You essentially replied "sure, just get off the wagon!" and never said anything about his reason for wanting to get off it - that he thinks you're scum - which is almost like agreeing with it.

Way to ignore the rest of my post, btw.

[Raging Rabbit]

And Iceman's paraphrase is useless, if for some reason that's not clear to anyone.

[charter]

And Iceman's paraphrase is useless, if for some reason that's not clear to anyone.

Yes, not convincing at all.

[icemanE]

And Iceman's paraphrase is useless, if for some reason that's not clear to anyone.

No shit, huh? I believe I mentioned that myself before posting it...

Yes, not convincing at all.

What do you mean by "not convincing?" It's a short paraphrasing of everything that was said - what else do you want?

[charter]

It doesn't convince me you guys aren't scum. It also looks dodgy and like it could easily have been made up in about 20 seconds.

[icemanE]

It doesn't convince me you guys aren't scum. It also looks dodgy and like it could easily have been made up in about 20 seconds.

Guess I need to put some time in with Mavis Beacon - took me around two minutes to put our daytalk in my own words...

Regardless, what looks "dodgy" about it? I'm not going into detail about the scumtell if that's what you're fishing for.

[charter]

Me and my lover have talked about way more that just the infamous scumtell and massclaim. You make no mention of who you think might be scum, or who you think might be lovers, nothing like that. I'm quite sure that all townies have talked about more than massclaim and the "scumtell". Yes, quite sure you are scum now.

[icemanE]

Me and my lover have talked about way more that just the infamous scumtell and massclaim. You make no mention of who you think might be scum, or who you think might be lovers, nothing like that. I'm quite sure that all townies have talked about more than massclaim and the "scumtell". Yes, quite sure you are scum now.

Did you notice how inactive fire was? I sure did. Just because your pillowtalk was deeper than ours doesn't mean jack squat. The posts I paraphrase are obviously a bit longer than "Hi", but I jotted down the gist of the message.

[Raging Rabbit]

Me and my lover have talked about way more that just the infamous scumtell and massclaim. You make no mention of who you think might be scum, or who you think might be lovers, nothing like that. I'm quite sure that all townies have talked about more than massclaim and the "scumtell". Yes, quite sure you are scum now.

QFT. Maybe Fire & Ice just had a bad relationship, but the lack of DT content makes them look even scummier.

[icemanE]

Maybe Fire & Ice just had a bad relationship

Lol! We don't talk anymore.

[Raging Rabbit]

He was always too busy with his other "games", never gave you any attention.