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[Andresvmb]

why r u getting into this argument andres

You’re right I shouldn’t. I just don’t like it when you see these demeaning comments. Because it’s fine if you want to continue playing hard and all. But I don’t respect this type of gameplay. So I don’t just quietly take it.

[Andresvmb]

No, VPB is actually mechanically confirmed Scum. They claimed a PT result on DkKoba, which would be impossible for them unless you think there’s two PT Cops in the game.

You are very bad at mechanics clearly. The scum had a one shot PT according to the role PM. That makes perfect sense as a counter to mine if I hit a bunch of scum early

Yep, so bad that I called that the Scum had both a PT Cop and a Role Cop.

They clearly don't have both of those things there, smarty pants. They have a JOAT, which is a one shot of several things.

I really can't believe you expect people to take you as genuine when you just say stupid things again and again as if they were true.

Is this effective for you as Scum? Calling people stupid?

I'm not saying you are stupid. I'm saying you're intentionally saying stupid things as if they make sense.

I’m not interacting with outted Scum. This is my last post responding to anything you say.

[Andresvmb]

Also, @Hellbooks this was NPOM’s solve in ELo:
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Do the opposite and you’re bound to end in a decent place.

[VP Baltar]

No, VPB is actually mechanically confirmed Scum. They claimed a PT result on DkKoba, which would be impossible for them unless you think there’s two PT Cops in the game.

You are very bad at mechanics clearly. The scum had a one shot PT according to the role PM. That makes perfect sense as a counter to mine if I hit a bunch of scum early

Yep, so bad that I called that the Scum had both a PT Cop and a Role Cop.

They clearly don't have both of those things there, smarty pants. They have a JOAT, which is a one shot of several things.

I really can't believe you expect people to take you as genuine when you just say stupid things again and again as if they were true.

Is this effective for you as Scum? Calling people stupid?

I'm not saying you are stupid. I'm saying you're intentionally saying stupid things as if they make sense.

I’m not interacting with outted Scum. This is my last post responding to anything you say.

So you're not going to vote Koba then, who is confirmed scum?

[hellbooks]

i mean it's damning in itself that VP hasn't outed his result yet right

[hellbooks]

accidentally deleted my D4 reread WIP post ope

[Andresvmb]

i mean it's damning in itself that VP hasn't outed his result yet right

There’s a lot more that’s damning. But yeah if you want.

[DkKoba]

im sorry to everyone about everything

hello you've reached the voicemailbox of DkKoba

[DkKoba]

vp would have had 2 guilties by now btw if they were real lol

[hellbooks]

dont want 2 say much more until aldus checks in

[Andresvmb]

vp would have had 2 guilties by now btw if they were real lol

DkKoba I know how you would vote between Aldus and I, I think. But I would discuss with Hellbooks before the end of today.

[hellbooks]

why does it feel like andres is like our mutual friend trying to patch some conflict up between us like talking is gonna happen dont worry about that

[VP Baltar]

i mean it's damning in itself that VP hasn't outed his result yet right

I have a result. I'll reveal in twilight when we yeet Koba. I'm not playing this game again where no one listens to VP as he locks the game down.

Vote: Koba

[DkKoba]

i mean it's damning in itself that VP hasn't outed his result yet right

I have a result. I'll reveal in twilight when we yeet Koba. I'm not playing this game again where no one listens to VP as he locks the game down.

Vote: Koba

your result is ur big mad <3

[DkKoba]

hellbooks i think we should probably solve andres/aldu today when we have 2 heads working at it over 1

[DkKoba]

whats fucking me up is aldu having voted npom first.

[Andresvmb]

whats fucking me up is aldu having voted npom first.

I’ll give you my perspective and you can take it with a grain of salt.

It’s a gambit. The Scum knew after multiple votes had been placed outside of the investigative that it was quite possible that one of Aldus/NPOM flips there. With Aldus voting for NPOM first, they thought it would make it a lot less likely that I would also vote for NPOM (since from my POV that’s Scum voting in ELo for a player that was likely Scum but had been called mis-execution bait repeatedly). If NPOM flips, Aldus looks great. If NPOM doesn’t flip, then it refocuses the choice between you Koba and VPB, where VPB was still more likely to come out ahead.

[Andresvmb]

Don’t forget, Ico had already voted for NPOM. That 1v1, NPOM probably doesn’t survive. So it’s not that hard at that stage to go for the Town cred.

[DkKoba]

the npom flip basically confirmed VP as scum which basically clears me.

i just am in a weird flurry of emotions.

[DkKoba]

hellbooks was good at reading me in nomination mafia so imma be real with u folks if anyone is tryna say im scum here for killing outside of ppl i am confident im reading then i have news for u.

[DkKoba]

hellbooks i think we should use today as a chance to discuss andres vs aldu and then just hang VP and whoever is alive can deal with it tomorrow.

[Andresvmb]

the npom flip basically confirmed VP as scum which basically clears me.

i just am in a weird flurry of emotions.

So then why am I not pushing hard for deciding the game between you and VPB early in D4? Why vote outside the investigation at all? And where was Aldus while all of that was happening?

[DkKoba]

i mean occams razor says ur scum but im just like thinking why would aldu throw so hard LOL

[DkKoba]

i mean this is the same scum team who fucking killed GB on N1 LOL so i mean theres not much good plays going on there. so i guess that goes there.

[DkKoba]

imma be real im leaning 25% andres 75% aldu for who id vote rn if i absolutely had to.