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[DkKoba]

andres u get the Big Dick approval from me for that move.

[DkKoba]

im not even going to obfuscate it, if we do hang scum outside then vp gets confirmed because he doesn't die. i will always sac to prevent auto

[Andresvmb]

Save the compliments until it’s actually shown I’m correct. Now this is definitely the hill I’m willing to die on.

[Andresvmb]

And to make the point more obvious. DkKoba and VPB contain one Scum, and only one Scum. That is strictly never TvT, and Scum Partners wouldn’t have done that. If they were both Scum, then either the “check” comes back clean, or the person investigated is a different one. However, the odds do change if you think this is some sort of Scum gambit. But I would reduce that universe to a less than 1% occurrence, and so I’m ignoring it.

[Andresvmb]

@Ico I’m sorry to be forcing your hand here to some extent, but I see massive benefit to moving in this direction.

[DkKoba]

but where are you leaning wrt vp/me being scum?

and why?

[Andresvmb]

I think I was harsh in rescinding my TR of your slot so fully yesterday. I’ll acknowledge that. Having said that, I have a post where I go through your “bad” pushes, and it’s not pretty. At the same time, you wavered with Bob to a point that Scum probably wouldn’t have. And if VPB didn’t have a mechanical element to fall back on, he would be very high on my execution list.

[Andresvmb]

3376 to be precise. And you would have to add Testa to it.

[Andresvmb]

I guess what I’m saying is, if you remove the mechanical elements of the game for a minute, VPB is Scummier. He’s trying to project confidence that he’s Town so that we all simply follow through with your execution. And it’s not wrong per se. But I think we need to corner the Scum here. If Aldus is Scum, and we flip there correctly, the strategic options for Scum narrow *considerably*. And you know if I’m wrong, the downside is already kind of low. Let’s put it this way - I don’t expect to get full blame for a Town loss here. I’m partly to blame of course. But the Masons splitting on a crucial vote I suspect will carry far more conversation than my attempt at not having to decide in a 50/50 hahaha

[DkKoba]

datisi didnt flip mason

[DkKoba]

I think I was harsh in rescinding my TR of your slot so fully yesterday. I’ll acknowledge that. Having said that, I have a post where I go through your “bad” pushes, and it’s not pretty. At the same time, you wavered with Bob to a point that Scum probably wouldn’t have. And if VPB didn’t have a mechanical element to fall back on, he would be very high on my execution list.

3376 to be precise. And you would have to add Testa to it.

i'll respond to this alongside my vp baltar case on why i Cannot be scum with their claim existing in the game

[Andresvmb]

He did check again.

[Andresvmb]

3542

[DkKoba]

HUH? i coulda sworn it said VT

[Andresvmb]

@Hellbooks @Iconeum let me know if you are willing to do this. I think the upside is fairly evident. And I don’t see how we have all that much to lose at this stage.

[DkKoba]

im still like

confused at the georgebailey kill.

[DkKoba]

Official Vote Count 1.19

Cereus repandus "Peruvian Apple Cactus"

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Elimination

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

bob3141

(5): VP Baltar, hellbooks, Andresvmb, jankofan, NoPowerOverMe

jankofan

(7)

: Datisi, bob3141, Testarossa, Iconeum, Billy Pilgrim, GeorgeBailey, Alduskkel

NoPowerOverMe

(1): DkKoba

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-13 23:15:00).

Mod notes:

I don't have proper mod powers here so I can't lock this thread.

The day is over. Please don't post.

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[DkKoba]

4 confirmed town on the janko wagon.

[DkKoba]

no wait 5

[Iconeum]

Not lynching outside of Kooba npow roday

I'm done wit following and I'm pushing my own thoughts theu

[DkKoba]

do you think the janko wagon was all town then ico?

[VP Baltar]

Lol the scum flailing today after having a run of miseliminations is hilarious.

[VP Baltar]

CONFIRMED GUILTY

If you don't believe it, then flip me and lose this game. I really cannot even deal with people not getting how simple this is. You either think I'm scum or I have a guilty. The cross votes prove it.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: NPOM

Sure. Same odds.

[DkKoba]

Lol the scum flailing today after having a run of miseliminations is hilarious.

CONFIRMED GUILTY

If you don't believe it, then flip me and lose this game. I really cannot even deal with people not getting how simple this is. You either think I'm scum or I have a guilty. The cross votes prove it.

wow these 2 posts really excel at showing how much vp cares about assisting in gamesolving over just shoving a hang through.