I like you.In post 1521, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:If you ISO me and read my last ~5 posts, it should become obvious that the vote is an attempt to get attention from Norway.In post 1513, JacksonVirgo wrote:Better not be a blind vote.
Explain reasoning or I will yeet you to the grave
Who isn't Glitch and pushes you and/ or Nero? Is there anything else scummy about them? If you make a case I promise to vote there, to help you get support.In post 1428, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Me and Nero are both town that scum have been consistently trying to paint as scum for petty reasons. Calling it now for bragging rights later.
I’m not gonna make any cases right now.In post 1527, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:Who isn't Glitch and pushes you and/ or Nero? Is there anything else scummy about them? If you make a case I promise to vote there, to help you get support.
Were we given a deadline extension?In post 1442, ManateeDude wrote:Deadline: 4 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes
I'd argue that it was proactive to get off a Glitch wagon that wasn't going to happen and see if there was traction on someone else that I'd rather lynch.In post 1380, SJReaver wrote:Nero Cain is the only person left on the stanley wagon. Let is go, dude! If you're town, put your vote somewhere useful.
If you think Fwesnid is LGF why would you ever vote it? Or do you like not know what that term means?
hey! I got pushed for this very same reason, despite not actually making that argument. I wonder if Glitch will scum read a50 now?In post 1422, Almost50 wrote:The fact you're overreacting to my single vote on you speaks a thousand words
its not but its kinda dumb.In post 1435, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Alt hunting is scummy.
In post 1441, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Anyone advocating a glitch elim at this point is scummy.
Glitchs claim can be used to explain why he'd be left alone. "Well, I said I was useless until n4."In post 1438, superbowl9 wrote:scum is forced to claim something that will force their death at some point
his claim is. 
100 % agreed about the last quotes. It's ridiculous, and no matter if some people like Norwee think that Nero is in his town meta, Nero is at the very leastIn post 1349, stan1ey wrote:heres some examples of actual misreps
In post 612, Nero Cain wrote:or wait, maybe im wrong.
he seems to be hinting that he thinks I was bussing norway. it's still weird mostly.In post 559, Glitch wrote:If I SR you because of your play, and SR Norway because of his play, it is optimal to apply pressure, not to speculate blindfolded on a possible scum alliance. I am certainly not, in a game this large especially, going to speculate on players playing scum together right off the bat on D1.glitch says he is not speculating on players being scum together. nero you say that he is hinting that you are bussing norway, which would suggest glitch is speculating you are both on the scum team - practically the opposite of what he saidIn post 614, Nero Cain wrote:but it's said in such a roundabout way that it's just kinda ambiguous
In post 1173, Nero Cain wrote:Glitch today, stan tomorrowhere i copy nero setting up a chain lynch. pretty sure this is very obvious that meant to be a parody at nero's expense and not serious, considering i posted it straight after he did in the same format, and was poses as a question to him.In post 1174, stan1ey wrote:what about nero today, superbowl tomorrow?
if anybody wants to say that they misread it or the parody went over their head, then ill say thats fair as i cant prove otherwise. but saying this.... is taking twisting the truth to the next level.In post 1202, Nero Cain wrote:Stan is just as guilty as I am, although he later backs off b/c he's trying to look townie.
Um, to get him lynched, which nearly happened? LolIn post 1361, Nero Cain wrote:eh. it might make me look bad and there is a theory that town should lie about things so they don't get in hot water but I rather tell the truth.In post 1358, stan1ey wrote:but now suddenlty youre claiming "no no i wasnt misrepping him i just misread it"...? yea dont think so
but saying that I misreped Glitch on purpose is ??? b/c why would I ever intentionally do that as scum?
In post 1362, ralph217 wrote:norwiege and sjr are towm im sure of it
Please elaborate.
I agree with the Fwesnid infolynch possibility here and with the reasoning given. Superbowl is actually towny, dunno what happened in the early game.In post 1370, superbowl9 wrote:I think a glitch town flip would actually say very little about you, since you very easily (almost probably) are just town with a bad target/case of tunnelling. Glitch being scum would give you town points, although a bus for early towncred is not impossible here. However I don't really think a glitch flip really says a lot about anyone else in the game.In post 1367, Nero Cain wrote:eh...
I think a Glitch flip would say more about me but even then the "if X flips scum/town then that means Y is scum/town" arguments are bad.
but that's not enirely accurate. I said I didn't like how town looter fence sat on him then voted him. I've looked @ his ISO a few times and I'm just not seeing him as scummy. Why should I be voting him?
I usually agree that info flip arguments are bad but for the fwesnid wagon I kinda just chose them semi-randomly out of the lower post count section of players. For you to disagree with that wagon so strongly and it to flip red I think would seriously shade you. However if it goes green that gives you real townpoints because it's such an easy ML to go along with. This would also tell us about me, town looter, Reaver, everyone who had some type of reaction to the wagon before my it would be a good info flip post.
You don't have to vote if you don't want to but I just see nothing getting done by that slot and awkward post timing with 1265
Pedit: here you are Cain I was working on that one and ya sniped
So let's sum it up. You think Norwee is scum because:
I never said I thought him to be scum. He's certainly not doing anything towny though, so I'm considering doing it. Still dislike how you're making normal things look scummy or wrong (I said I liked the idea of an infolynch on him, and you just go "vote him if you think he's scum").In post 1542, Nero Cain wrote:So vote Fwesnid if you think he's scum.
In post 1448, Fwesnid wrote:In post 1276, JacksonVirgo wrote:Is popping in right as you are getting wagoned a scum thing or just no?In post 1265, Fwesnid wrote:I think it's townie the way glitch phrased his claim.
VOTE: 72offsuit
They're the much worse half of the continuous argument with reaver that got overshadowed.
1138 is avoiding the reason reaver scumreads offsuit and instead asking for specifics of a tangent of the argument.In post 1278, superbowl9 wrote:Yes that is scummy jacksonApologies for not doing the clearly townier option of not posting when a wagon forms.
I don't really get why you're thinking activity level is gonna be ai? Like I'm obviously not gonna come out posting many times a day since I wasn't before.In post 1282, Town looter wrote:Spoiler:
This post of Fwesnid's pinged as town for me, especially the last bit where he tells Glitch he (Fwesnid) is the other person I was SRing. I feel like scum would've probably ignored this.
That being said, they are definitely avoiding a lot of contribution. And their other game (where Fwesnid was scum), they were about the same in terms of activity (very quick skim). Hmmm...
I'm not being wagoned for scumminess but rather for info.In post 1365, superbowl9 wrote:Unfortunately nero i think you are allowing stanley to look town here
But if we go with fwesnid Who nero just opposed for like no reason that flip will help us figure out nero for sure and in turn a lot of other stuff. Fwesnid is good for info and LAL even if you dont see scumminess
The info I am being wagoned for is future tense as in generated by the wagoning.
This info generated which the wagon is currently standing on is "towniest player in the game is not sold on him being scum."
Did I miss anything?
Imagine trying to make dead air.In post 1425, Bell wrote:Are you trying to save fwesnid here.
In post 1450, Fwesnid wrote:In post 1449, Bell wrote:Imagine writing a wall full of nothing but pointing out the obvious while forgetting to look at who on his wagon might be scum.Superbowl and IKS is what I'm leaning towards.
Struggling with sorting offsuit/superbowl interaction though.
IKS doesn't have much in ISO outside of dowels.
In post 1451, Bell wrote:That's not much different than what you had before your wagon.
In post 1453, Bell wrote:To look at who's votes felt most unnatural, which player's reasons sucked the most, etc.
You said you felt kind of stuck/lost earlier. That still the case?
If Fwesnid flips scum, this is looking very good for Bell. Why? Simply because that's the kind of coaching you do in scum chat, not in the game thread lol. The only logical and not very weird possibility here is that Bell is genuinely trying to figure Fwesnid's alignment out, assuming scum!Fwesnid.In post 1457, Bell wrote:@fwesnid, try shaking them a little. Like a tree. Like this.
"Why are people voting Fwesnid, why are you not voting Fwesnid and somebody else?" "If fwesnid isn't scum who is/who is scum on his wagon?"