Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Casey]

Oh we've started!

[Casey]

Well I do.

TR Isis for #23 and #31 because I thought the same things.
TR Hellbrooks for #57.
#72 from Isis has me questioning. Maybe it really was funny?
I like Marksman's #92, VT.
Hiraki's #93, #94, and #96 I'm in disagreement with.
SR Hiraki for #110 and aggression of #108.
Hiraki's #122 and #124 are even more hostile.
Chemical Elements' #123 sounds level-headed.
I lol'd at Hellbrooks' #126. I'd almost guess you were Mel Brooks trolling on the internet.
TR Hayasaka for #131 and #132 despite the votes. Feeling the second take in #132.
Hiraki's #145 sounds like overreactionary defending of scumbuddy Weyloun.

Posting this now to see what I've found so far.

[Casey]

Also side note, emoji apparently break posts. So enjoy the emotionless content, lol.

[Casey]

TOWN
Casey
Isis
Hayasaka
hellbooks
Marksman

ALMOST TOWN
Chemical Elements
Nono

DOESN'T LIKE MY ENTRANCE
Elements

WHO?
Lavender
ileileile
spicer1209
innocentvillager

MAFFERS
Hiraki
WeyounsLastClone

[Casey]

Sorry for all the posts. The reply window is tiny. How do I do vote tags and make the #s link to posts?

[Casey]

VOTE: Lavender
VOTE: ileileile
VOTE: spicer1209
VOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: WeyounsLastClone

Also signaling intent to vote innocentvillager but the wagon is already L-2. Guess I should look into who this is.

[Casey]

innocentvillager reads like someone who's high. The editing of Hiraki's name into "Supreme Leader" is a silly, albeit trolly touch. My gut read on innocentvillager is "Unfortunately Town."

If innocentvillager *is* on a mafia team, I suspect he'll need them to carry. In which case he may as well be ignored until we clean the rest of them up.

Still, leaning town.

[Casey]

Marksman are you liking me because I'm agreeing with you or because of actual reasons?

[Casey]

Lavender hasn't participated outside of RVS.

I can't find any evidence of ileileile or Spicer posting.

[Casey]

Reread Isis, then reread my read post. Agreed that Isis needs to get out of town and move into leaning town.

[Casey]

Sorry that was past tense. As in "I reread Isis."

[Casey]

Gonna update this just cause.

TOWN
Casey
Hayasaka
hellbooks
Marksman

ALMOST TOWN
Chemical Elements
Nono
innocentvillager
Isis

WHO?
Lavender
ileileile
spicer1209

DOESN'T LIKE MY ENTRANCE
Elements

MAFFERS
Hiraki
WeyounsLastClone

I'm not going to get in trouble for posting a lot, am I? Sometimes I have thoughts and then the thoughts end so I tap Submit. But then I have more thoughts.

Also Elements' posts are slimy.

VOTE: Elements

[Casey]

Nope still slimy.

[Casey]

Thanks Hiraki your naked vote was like trying to sneak back into a party to grab your car keys after you already said your goodbyes.

[Casey]

Thanks for the info @Marksman. I'll try to scale my posting back.

[Casey]

@Hiraki, stating that a house is blue after the pictures on Zillow clearly show it's red doesn't help your perception of a rug-sweeper in the least-bit. And then you go on to be like, "Why are we even debating the green house? Focus on actual issues," is entirely disingenuous.

[Casey]

I'm talking about your dismissal of me.

The house is red.

[Casey]

"153 might as well be throwing darts at a board in how much information it gives."

"Good analogy? Do you even want to try and figure out the game or just post your opinions and peace out?"

How would you describe those posts other than trying to get people to ignore and discount me?

[Casey]

Oh phew. Was about to say I've totally failed to not post.

[Casey]

@Lavender, Elements and Chemical Elements are two different people.

[Casey]

Lavender makes me feel sad.

[Casey]

...very good question.

Does only frowny face work? Seems so.

Wild.

Also I looked through Lavender's posts. They appear to be entirely non-confrontational. It feels like the odds we glean anything from them are low.

[Casey]

The only emotion I can express is sadness.

[Casey]

Hiraki: "Isis would do 23 and 31 that as scum."

Isis: "Yeah I totally would."

Hiraki: Unvote Isis.

There's a lot to unpack here.

[Casey]

@hellbrooks: Nothing innocentvillager did stood out at all in my initial read. Had to go back through the ISO to get a read.

@Hikari: You say let's go deeper but you still only do a surface-level read. I think you're speaking a foreign language at times. By going deeper I mean reading beyond the words and delving into the author's intent, consistency, and mindset. Don't look at the words, feel the emotional energy that resonates from them. That's what I do.

[Casey]

Oh, VOTE: Unvote: Lavender, too.

[Casey]

Nono reads as both ESL and trolly, so attempting to divine intent is difficult.

@Hiraki:

1) Explain how it's a misrep by explaining why your unvote isn't related to that post by Isis.

2) I make a request of you in order to better understand you and you refuse by calling it coaching? And then you act like the onus is on me.

You're trying to say that the red house is looking plaid. Can you give one straight answer? or is deflection your default state of existence?

Hiraki: "Isis would do 23 and 31 that as scum."

Isis: "Yeah I totally would."

Hiraki: Unvote Isis.

There's a lot to unpack here.

This is blatant misrep and I'm not sure if this is coming from town or scum.

@Hikari: You say let's go deeper but you still only do a surface-level read. I think you're speaking a foreign language at times. By going deeper I mean reading beyond the words and delving into the author's intent, consistency, and mindset. Don't look at the words, feel the emotional energy that resonates from them. That's what I do.

Please don't try and coach me. You're not explaining anything. That's all I said. It's still true. Your "emotions" aren't conveyed very well.

hellbooks dedicates a full post to discouraging a scum-threatening townblock from developing around hayasaka in a setup where she can't be killed before getting a chance to mention it.

I didn't like dedicating a post to that either, but this post feels like a bit of a stretch to me on what is happening.

Agreed but it does not help that I think hellbooks flips scum here.

[Casey]

@Wey: "Casey - Starting the game late, but brings the heat and some decent posts with interesting analysis"

Could you expound on that? For having me lean town and calling my posts "decent" and "interesting" (empty words) you don't seem to have subscribed to any beliefs held within them. It reads like you're saying that to get me off your tail.

Time to make good on your words: what do you consider to be spot-on accurate in my posts? You're welcome to say nothing and admit you've no idea what you're talking about. I won't fault you for that.

[Casey]

Consider my vote on Hiraki permanent for the rest of the game.

[Casey]

It's mind-blowing how tone-deaf Hiraki can be. To simply not answer questions because it's "cooler" to deflect or whatever. This attitude exists only to get me to shut up. It's Hiraki's way or the highway. I've made multiple attempts to scratch at the surface, but he'll shut down even the simplest of queries. I'd make more a dent in a wall with my head.

So I'm done.

[Casey]

Welcome to the land of false equivalencies, population Hiraki.

Well, if that's correct, then you should have no problem rallying a wagon right?

[Casey]

@Wey: Thank you for explaining like a real human being would.

Re: IV, the way it was done meant nothing to me.

@Wey: "Casey - Starting the game late, but brings the heat and some decent posts with interesting analysis"

Could you expound on that? For having me lean town and calling my posts "decent" and "interesting" (empty words) you don't seem to have subscribed to any beliefs held within them. It reads like you're saying that to get me off your tail.

Time to make good on your words: what do you consider to be spot-on accurate in my posts? You're welcome to say nothing and admit you've no idea what you're talking about. I won't fault you for that.

It does seem you have a knack for mispresenting people's words (please don't start to talk about houses...). Decent/interesting is not the same as 'spot-on'.
You interact (and confront), refer to specific posts and actions, and actively indicate your town and scum-reads, and that's what I appreciated (maybe I should have elaborated in my post and not just called it 'decent', but it was getting quite late here in Netherlands and wanted to make sure I got my list out before I went to bed;). That I like your posting style and confrontations, and get a town-vibe from that does not mean I fully agree with your findings or your reads. Interesting was referencing that you seem to be quite direct, and call out things directly (in post #160 and some of your interactions with Hiraki).

One question I still had based on below

@hellbrooks: Nothing innocentvillager did stood out at all in my initial read. Had to go back through the ISO to get a read.

The first thing Innocentvillager did was vote for everyone, did that not stand out to you? Or saw it as a null-tell, or townie move?

[Casey]

That's what happens when there are only two loud people around at one time.

Wey, should I be worried your top guess for scum is someone with 1 post?

tbf it was a bad post ; )

not rly sure what to make of casey having a strong entrance w thoughts on everyone in the game and then kind of dropping all of it to get sucked into this weird incomprehensible 1v1 with hiraki

[Casey]

Welcome Almost50! No unvote until you've earned it.

@hellbooks (not Brooks!! Gasp!): When I quote it gives me a huge mess so instead of messing with the mess and potentially ruining everything, it's easier for me to just type up top. I'll try to avoid quoting as often.

[Casey]

@Isis: "after a spat with Hiraki she voted him seemingly on principle"

Excuse me, I voted Hiraki in #157, before any "spat" occurred. What are you talking about? And seemingly on principle? What principle is that?

[Casey]

I'm sure Hiraki is plotting this right now.

I felt that your second part is just how the rules work. The game could technically end with one dunk if things were planned carefully enough.

This is wrong. I'm absolutely convinced Hiraki will flip scum.

Locked your vote's movement, tomato tomato

By "seemingly on principle" I mean you're voting him in a way that doesn't actually seem like its because you believe he will flip scum

This is Hiraki literally describing his own behavior and attributing it to me.

Wow, haven't seen anyone butthurt over being wrong in a game in awhile. Casey even avoids when other people call her out lol.

Attempting multi-quoting.

[Casey]

@Almost50: Your votes are on the most sane person here, the ESL guy who I swear I thought you said was town and is NOT in your #328, and your only comment on hellbooks as far as I can tell is that he's mafia if someone else flips mafia.

Your vote on Wey is good at least. One out of four ain't bad.

@all - Almost time for the first dunk. Should be innocentvillager for the fake/forced tone.

This is almost a scum claim from my PoV.

As a matter of fact, I am willing to vote marks, Nono, and hellbooks. I also don't mind voting any of the other people I talked about in my 328 post, but I doubt Lav is aligned with either of WLC ot hellbooks (whom I've corrected her name TWICE from "hellbox", so if I ever appear to be calling her that you know it's not intended.)


You know what?

VOTE: Marksman
VOTE: Nono
VOTE: hellbooks
VOTE: WLC (The full version of that name is too annoying to type)

Chemical Elements gets a pass for now (sheeping Elements)

I am also warming up to vote for spicer & Hayasaka (they have yet to post at this point, but I will wait to see when and what they post.

[Casey]

um I didn't comment on it because it's so weak? but if you insist, yeah maybe I'll also just go to everyone's most recent towngame, look at their opening and scumread them because I can find a difference...

This is my first towngame ever on this site.

[Casey]

@Almost50: You know you're perfectly welcome to call can call us women. Or ladies. Heck even gals. But do you call your guy friends the males? Sheesh.

[Casey]

A50, you creepy AF, man.

Lavender makes me feel sad.

On the very contrary, I am actually becoming a bid fan of hers. I think I'm going to join more games with her because she makes laugh (she kinda reminds me of my sister-in-law whom I just adore)

[Casey]

None.

I'm absolutely convinced Hiraki will flip scum.

How much prior experience do you have with Hiraki??

[Casey]

@Almost50: Nono to me reads as ESL. If they're not, I apologize.

Have you considered that Hellbooks' posts contain paragraph breaks which indicate separate thoughts? That's all I get from 329, 330, and 331. Sure, questioning the naked votes is appropriate, but calling Hellbooks mafia for not realizing people can have two independent thoughts in a single post is bizarre.

@Almost50: Your votes are on the most sane person here, the ESL guy who I swear I thought you said was town and is NOT in your #328, and your only comment on hellbooks as far as I can tell is that he's mafia if someone else flips mafia.

How convenient that you unvote the person most likely to be mafia from your list of votes.

Your vote on Wey is good at least. One out of four ain't bad.

Who is ESL?

My votes were on hellbook, Marks, WLC & Nono.

I am voting hb for inconsistencies and vague postings (agreeing to a TR on someone w/o elaborating what exactly they agree). mainly check my 329, 330 & 331. Nobody said anything about it being a conditional read!!!

I was voting Marks mainly for his vote on IV with the remark that we needed to eliminate/dunk someone ASAP.

I voted Nono for the vote on IV too, plus every other post of theirs just rubs me the wrong way (take the "I wanna hammer" troll for instance, or their vote on me in 368, just off the top of my head)

Finally, WLC I was voting for what appears to me now as a clash in playstyles. I also had assumed he was much more experienced than he really is (although if we go just by total post count he's look like 4-5 times as experienced as you are, adespite the fact you both have really old accounts)

Also, in my 328 I said I was sus of how the wagon on IV was building, but it was not the sole/main reason for me to vote anyone. It was just a pool I'd be digging into (more of a self-reminder, if you will).

Other than that I still don't know who ESL is, and I did not vote anyone outside these 4.

[Casey]

I have played elsewhere but upon meeting people IRL...

Spoiler:

I was raped

...so I don't go back there.

In fact, how experienced are you in general? Seeing as you have only 198 posts on the site (Did your old stuff get deleted? Are you an alt?)

[Casey]

@Almost50: You know you're perfectly welcome to call can call us women. Or ladies. Heck even gals. But do you call your guy friends the males? Sheesh.

The "sheesh" is on you, lady. Austin Powers never calls you ladies. He calls you chicks, most likely.

Disclaimer: SERIOUSLY. I was saying I should have played under an alt of AUSTIN POWERS. What did you expect??

What did

I

expect??

I expect people to understand that trauma is lifelong, and that it's pervasive in our world, and that people on a mafia site would not contribute to denying agency.

If this is the kind of callous "playful" behavior I'll be subjected to, I regret ever coming back to play again.

[Casey]

You really don't want this genie put of the bottle

I really don't.

[Casey]

How's your intuition, Casey?

I only do gut reads. I'm trash with analyzing game mechanics and flips. AtE works wonders on me.

I want to subscribe to your current train of thought but I really don't think IV is mafia.

[Casey]

How's your intuition, Casey?

I want to subscribe to your current train of thought

If you're a gut player, does this mean you think Marksman is town, you just think he's wrong?

I'm not sure of the conditional but I do think Marksman is town and probably wrong.

[Casey]

This is a good dunk.

[Casey]

Does this time where we're waiting for a flip count against us?

[Casey]

Geeeet dunked on!

Next dunk, cleaning up the Almost50 trash:

@Almost50: Your votes are on the most sane person here, the ESL guy who I swear I thought you said was town and is NOT in your #328, and your only comment on hellbooks as far as I can tell is that he's mafia if someone else flips mafia.

Your vote on Wey is good at least. One out of four ain't bad.

Who is ESL?

My votes were on hellbook, Marks, WLC & Nono.

I am voting hb for inconsistencies and vague postings (agreeing to a TR on someone w/o elaborating what exactly they agree). mainly check my 329, 330 & 331. Nobody said anything about it being a conditional read!!!

I was voting Marks mainly for his vote on IV with the remark that we needed to eliminate/dunk someone ASAP.

I voted Nono for the vote on IV too, plus every other post of theirs just rubs me the wrong way (take the "I wanna hammer" troll for instance, or their vote on me in 368, just off the top of my head)

Finally, WLC I was voting for what appears to me now as a clash in playstyles. I also had assumed he was much more experienced than he really is (although if we go just by total post count he's look like 4-5 times as experienced as you are, adespite the fact you both have really old accounts)

Also, in my 328 I said I was sus of how the wagon on IV was building, but it was not the sole/main reason for me to vote anyone. It was just a pool I'd be digging into (more of a self-reminder, if you will).

Other than that I still don't know who ESL is, and I did not vote anyone outside these 4.

Bus means voting/pushing for a scum partner. I think you mean just being opportunistic in general.

Ah, okay, thanks; I misremembered then, thought it was werewolf/mafia jumping in last minute to lynch with fellow scum.

Um... I've just checked your topics. Did you really stop playing since 2012? Is this your first game in 8 years?? Geez! I seem to ALWAYS have a playstyle clash with the "old guard", so..

UNVOTE: WLC until I can figure you out.

[Casey]

@casey: You said you'd unvote when I've "earned it". What would it take for me to earn it?

You had your chance. It's too late to come crawling back. You can jump into your bed of nails now.

[Casey]

Glad to see almost everyone posted thoughts. I wish I could be as coherent as some of you with your thoughts and analyses, my mind goes all places reading the different interactions and suspicions. But I'll give it a stab anyway:

Thinking town
Marksman - lot of content, and while that's not necessarily townie, I think he posts valid thoughts (although sometimes making mountains out of molehills, but that might be just my opinion ) and keep things going
Casey - Starting the game late, but brings the heat and some decent posts with interesting analysis
Chemical Elements - not to rehash the whole discussion again, but the initial posts and help with vote counts gave me a town-vibe. But slipping more towards neutral, not sure if post 101 was serious or trying to get more votes on innocent

Either way
Hellbooks - initially thought she was trying to create chaos and leaning scum, but I guess that's her way of posting. and it's funny, which always helps
Hiraki - A bit hit and miss, sometimes slightly opportunistic, but happy he understood my post that caused the stir.
Isis - started to post a lot, then a bit less (or it could have been night, not sure where she's from). Felt maybe a bit too serious from the start.
Lavender - Could be a real confused townie, but could be an excuse as well. Not sure as scum why you'd post stuff like that, but as town you could easily read the thread and see them both posting. If it was just uncertainty who to vote for I could understand, but ChemElement/Elements has been addressed even before.
Hayasaka - Maybe I don't trust her as she's voting for me, but not sure I follow her reasoning in initial posts 131 and 132
Elements - Opportunistic vote on Casey, don't get much from the other posts made

Leaning scum
Nono - Still find his posts non-coherent, and then goes V/LA
spicer1209 - with lack of posts, need something more than that initial post. Want to read his thoughts before putting actual vote in though.

I really don't know about innocentvillager anymore. Voting for just everyone still doesn't sit well with me, but actually the way he interacted after that and updated his suspicions seemed quite town.

Unvote: innocentvillager

waiting for content:

Vote: ileileile

Hope I didn't miss anyone

Reviewing Wey's only list.

Marksman: Wey seems genuinely afraid of Marksman.
Me: I called him out on his BS read of me and dunked accordingly.
Chemical Elements: This read is problematic. Someone he doesn't believe is town is shoved in the townpile. Rereading Chemical Elements, his #407 makes me feel townie about him. He interacts heavily with Almost50 and Hiraki, so I feel fine about Chemical Elements.

Hellbooks: Are all the scum just saying "my buddies aren't scummy any more now that I understand them"? Because that would be wild.
Hiraki: Another "happy we understand each other" read.
Isis: This read is readless.
Hayasaka: This read requires additional research that I'm not willing to do at this time.

Lavender/Nono: Here, Wey comments essentially the same thing for both Lavender and Nono, but is nicer to Lavender. More indication Nono is town.
Spicer: Blank read.

Elements: Wey says clearly that Elements placed an

opportunistic

vote on me. Yet Elements isn't even leaning scum for that? Red flag here.

Biggest takeaway from this is Elements is mafia.

[Casey]

VOTE: hayasaka

Never mind on that Hayasaka read. Elements pretty much confirms Hayasaka is town.

[Casey]

What in the world is this..?

I think A50 is town

also why are people voting a50 so readily?

@Elements - Why do you think he's town, and what's suspcious about Hayasaka/I putting him on D-1?

neither you or hayasaka were voting for the scum flip and then you voted

a50 who I think is town

5 posts later...

VOTE: a50

The only thing I did was quote A50's stupid Wey unvote. Was that really enough to change your tune??

[Casey]

Elements: Wey says clearly that Elements placed an

opportunistic

vote on me. Yet Elements isn't even leaning scum for that? Red flag here.

Biggest takeaway from this is Elements is mafia.

why would scum!Wey go out of his way to opinionate that the vote was opportunistic on scum!Elements and not put Elements into the scum bucket?

Forgot where he was putting a buddy.

[Casey]

anyway we need to dunk again, we have like 8 more dunks to go and it seems we are getting penalized for twilight. I can dunk A50 if needed, he's just null to me atm

actually, we should try to predict when RR will be on and dunk right before then.

8 more dunks?? Do you expect us to get 5 dunks wrong??

VOTE: Lavender

@Ruby Red

- Is Spicer being replaced?

We have less than 10 days left, people. Put your votes down and dunk.

My votes are down already.

I can agree with Lavender.

Vote: Lavender

You're a monster.

Uh, me thinking CE and Elements were the same was just an honest mistake, I posted without thinking or checking. ╮(￣ω￣;)╭

Have you made any dishonest mistakes so far?

[Casey]

Wagon comparison... surprisingly similar faces on both.

WeyounsLastClone(GOT EM)

innocentvillager

,

Marksman

,

Hayasaka

,

Casey

,

Elements

,

Nono

,

Chemical Elements

,

Isis

Lavender(L-1)

innocentvillager

,

Chemical

Elements

,

Isis

,

Elements

,

Marksman

,

Hiraki

[Casey]

I didn't mention the votes because I wasn't paying attention to the votes.

[Casey]

He voted IV, voted Nono, then invited IV.
He voted ile and unvoted after A50 replaced in.

What am I supposed to be looking at here?

[Casey]

His reason for unvoting IV is kinda lame actually.

[Casey]

I'm coming to the conclusion that I just dislike A50 and Hiraki as people.

Not unvoting though.

[Casey]

Y'all, Elements needs to be the next dunk.

Anyone who hammers Hellbooks is claiming maf IMO.

[Casey]

Oh and my case on A50 is that he unvoted Wey when Wey was close to getting dunked, due to a "misunderstanding of playstyles." It's so fake that A50 resorted to smokescreening silliness and perversion to distract from it.

Okay, maybe I vehemently dislike A50 *and* he's scum. There's a possibility.

[Casey]

Some combination of A50, Elements, Raya, and Chemical Elements are maf.

Not even considering Lavender or Nono unless the game goes late.

Hellbooks and Marksman have me pocketed.

IV and Isis are precipitous in their celestial orbit.

Hiraki I am ignoring for my own personal health. I don't need another gaslighter in my life.

[Casey]

She didn't really give us a lot.

[Casey]

VOTE: Unvote: A50

No chain dunking on my watch. Someone unvote Hellbooks.

[Casey]

I get a strong towny vibe from her posts. No specific post, but rather hher consistency throughout the game hasn't wavered. I've been watching her vigilantly and I see no cause for alarm from Hellbooks.

[Casey]

why have you been watching her vigilantly over others when you townread her...?

Because she hasn't done a thing to question her towniness. Same with Marksman. I haven't had an opportunity to question their flawless jive.

[Casey]

We will lose the game if we don't dunk all the scum in approximately eight days. Will someone please hammer hellbooks?

You mean Elements.

[Casey]

Now imagine if everyone voted people they don't even SR.

That's what's given us an awful Hellbooks dunk instead of a perfect Elements dunk.

I think the problem here is that Lavender and Nono are town, meaning were literally down 2 extra townies.

[Casey]

THEN VOTE ELEMENTS AND STOP PUTTING US DOWN A LOSING PATH JEEZ

[Casey]

11 left, 6 to dunk

-3 maf, -2 L&N

That's 6 left.

We need all 6 of us to be voting correctly.

These reckless votes are dooming us.

Lavender is at D-2 with 4 people who are also on the Hellbooks wagon.

This is ridiculous.

[Casey]

Lavender will be at D-1. I expect unvotes as soon as D3 starts.

[Casey]

Right.

[Casey]

I don't know any more.

VOTE: Unvote: Raya
VOTE: Chemical Elements
VOTE: innocentvillager
VOTE: Isis

Literally just shots in the dark at this point.

[Casey]

Let's just go completely opposite day.

VOTE: Unvote: Hiraki
VOTE: Marksman
VOTE: Nono

[Casey]

Chemical Elements / Isis / Marksman is my guess now.

[Casey]

Actually I kind of like that team.

VOTE: Unvote: Innocent villager
VOTE: Unvote: No-no

[Casey]

you realize you have like a 1.2% chance at guessing the scumteam right lol

I don't realize that but thanks for the arbitrary numbers.

[Casey]

Chemical Elements / Isis / Marksman is my guess now.

Why?

inno focusing on the likilehood of nailing the scumteam rather than talking about the people themselves is weird.

Raya's reevaluation is kinda towny. Agree with 840, but I think trying to maintain all of your members, especially early on in a nightless is pretty important. So, I do think scum would've avoided bussing, or at least not planned to bus from the start. But once it looked like Wey was a sinking ship, 1 or 2 of them probably hopped on for the towncred.

Elements because I don't have any input on any of his posts.
Isis because her biggest suspect is Lavender although she's been contributing mostly well otherwise.
And you because nothing you've done is scummy.

Those are terrible reasons but at this point what else do we have?

Lavender is just... gone.
Nono hasn't done anything notable the entire game.
A50 and Hiraki are my scumreads and they're probably town.
IV is blabbing about numbers which is typically scummy IMO.
Raya has a collection of good posts and bad posts.

Like, where do we even go from here?

[Casey]

VOTE: Unvote: Chemical Elements
VOTE: Unvote: Marksman
VOTE: Unvote: Isis

All my votes are dumb.

[Casey]

I'm going to make a spreadsheet and then present it with no meaningful results.

[Casey]

Marksman & Nono are 95% town.

Likely buddies if maf...

A50 - Hiraki, Isis, Raya

CE - Isis, IV, Lavender, Mark, Nono

Isis - A50, CE, Hiraki, Lavender, Raya

IV - CE, Hiraki, Nono

Hiraki - A50, Isis, IV, Nono, Raya

Lavender - CE, Isis, Nono, Raya

Mark - CE

Nono - CE, IV, Hiraki, Lavender

Raya - A50, Isis, Hiraki, Lavender

[Casey]

Or in simpler terms,

CE/Isis
CE/IV
CE/Lavender
CE/Mark
CE/Nono
Isis/A50
Isis/Hiraki
Isis/Lavender
Isis/Raya
Hiraki/A50
Hiraki/IV
Hiraki/Nono
Hiraki/Raya
Nono/IV
Nono/Lavender
Raya/Lavender
Raya/A50

[Casey]

Not gonna consider Mark and Nono at this time...

CE/Isis
CE/IV
CE/Lavender
Isis/A50
Isis/Hiraki
Isis/Lavender
Isis/Raya
Hiraki/A50
Hiraki/IV
Hiraki/Raya
Raya/Lavender
Raya/A50

[Casey]

Possible lucky triplets...

Isis/CE/Lavender
Isis/A50/Hiraki
Isis/A50/Raya
Isis/Hiraki/Raya
Isis/Lavender/Raya
Hiraki/A50/Raya

[Casey]

Anyway I read through the whole game again and these pairs/groupings have the least compelling reason to believe that at least one of them is town.

I really want to dunk Lavender or even CE before Isis. But Isis is surprisingly more likely maf and is on every team with either of them.

[Casey]

Nono and Wey had some truly bizarre interactions and I don't see them as Maf/Maf.

[Casey]

I can agree with Lavender.

Vote: Lavender

What changed?

[Casey]

@Hiraki:

UNVOTE: Lavender

Lavender was D-1 for all of 5 hours and nobody who wasn't on the wagon posted (except Hayasaka who flipped town).

I don't think your reasoning is valid.

[Casey]

Lavender has been D-3 to D-1 since Votecount 2.2. Is your point that I said the words D-1 rather than "large wagon"?

I only have your words to go on.

[Casey]

I read through the whole game and gave people scores based on how well I liked their interactions with each other.

0 is meh or non-existent.
5 points is okay.
10 points is pretty good.

[Casey]

I also read through interactions with WLC and determined that Nono and Mark were highly unlikely to be mafbuds.

[Casey]

let me just quote people and then say scum and people will just vote with me!! it looks a little long but heck, no one is reading me anyway!

You sound very upset that you can't push a Nono mislynch now.

[Casey]

@Hiraki: You also never answered this:

I can agree with Lavender.

Vote: Lavender

What changed?

[Casey]

No, I sound very upset because no one is reading his post

I read it. I liked most of it.

[Casey]

@Hiraki: "Acting like a mastermind doesn't help your case once you do this 'surprise! I knew I was doing all along!' either."

Maybe it's a surprise to you, but to those of us who had been paying attention to Nono, we already knew this.


"First, Nono calls out Weyoun for OMGUSing. I want to make it clear I don't have a problem with this point. I think it's an OMGUS but what I do have a problem with is that Nono considers it to be the end all. This is the last we hear about Weyoun. We don't hear anything in comparison to me, just about this OMGUS. An OMGUS on Page 3 is how Nono decided that Weyoun would be scum?"

Sounds legit to me. Catching a mafia on page 3 and then seeing evidence pile up beyond that isn't that far-fetched.


"I don't see how that "clears" him and it reeks of an early game buss."

And yet my posts about Wey were nearly the same and I'm magically town to you. Uh huh.


"There's just too much here that Nono says 'well, everyone suspected me! Duh! I'm not scum!' that is thrown at the dart board and completely misses."

I agree with this. But Nono is town for other reasons.


"First, Raya is going over the facts and showing her line of logic. What part of the recap itself is actually bad?"

What is up with you defending Raya?

[Casey]

Elim chem elem elim chem elem elim chem elem clim-- dang.

[Casey]

If this flips town Hiraki is banned from the cool kids club.

[Casey]

(Not that he was allowed in to begin with.)

[Casey]

If this flips town Hiraki is banned from the cool kids club.

This.
Pushed so many townies to their deaths.
Is trying to push Nono because he's running out of soft targets.
Is mad-defending Raya (buddy alert!)
Hiraki is not a cool kid.

VOTE: Hiraki

[Casey]

You've lost privilege to say "I told you so" after being on the wagons of Hellbooks, Elements, and CE.

I've been on a total of 1 maf dunk and 1 town dunk

You've been on a total of 0 maf dunks and 3 town dunks.

[Casey]

You can't whatever away your problems, Squall.

[Casey]

You know you can't push for my dunk, so you have to use diversionary tactics to get me off your back.

I love this setup. You can't nightkill me away either.

[Casey]

That was @the man with many mouths

[Casey]

Afraid I don't, Isis.

[Casey]

Isis is there any particular reason you're not voting Hiraki? It's okay to say no.

[Casey]

I would RVS you for that Isis if we had the wiggle room to. ROFL.

[Casey]

I have no votes I think, you can vote me if you wannoo. There's wiggle room

Nah. Raya & A50 are more likely partners with Hiraki than you. Heck even IV would be more likely than you.

[Casey]

It's a story I really like and in Earthbound you get the "Casey Bat" and you can run around and mostly miss and deal big damage if you hit

Sounds like me.

[Casey]

when nono and marksman flip red, just remember those were my D1 reads

For reference, if they're maf we may as well call the game now, because there's no way I'm voting either of them, not even in 3-way DuLo.

[Casey]

I have no votes I think, you can vote me if you wannoo. There's wiggle room

Nah. Raya & A50 are more likely partners with Hiraki than you. Heck even IV would be more likely than you.

Casey, how well do you know me? Do you have other alts you may have played with me before? (I don't need you to out such alts. Just to confirm ir deny you have played with me)

I have nono experience with anyone in this game. I don't have any alts.

[Casey]

i think my biggest regret this game is that i still don't think any of the misdunks were bad

They were legitimately terrible and this AtE is... Ugh.

VOTE: Unvote: Hiraki

Last chance. Show some humanity for once.

[Casey]

I dreamt that nono showed up, typed "lolol" and then voted everyone.

[Casey]

I really think we should limit ourselves to one vote per person now bc of the whole chain dunking thing

I thought this as well. Our breathing room is gone.

[Casey]

I have no votes I think, you can vote me if you wannoo. There's wiggle room

Nah. Raya & A50 are more likely partners with Hiraki than you. Heck even IV would be more likely than you.

Casey, how well do you know me? Do you have other alts you may have played with me before? (I don't need you to out such alts. Just to confirm ir deny you have played with me)

I have nono experience with anyone in this game. I don't have any alts.

OK. Because this type of "association" (A50 is a likely partner with X) triggers a weird reaction in me more often, and that is to actually cote X to prove it wrong. My philosophy is "it's a win-win situation for me. If X is scum we got scum. If X is town the theory is proven wrong". I literally have nothing to lose.)

So, if you did have experience with me I would probably have thought you were subtly baiting me into voting Hiraki here. Glad it's not the case, because I am not voting him.

What's your towncase on Hiraki?

[Casey]

What's your towncase on Hiraki?

Two things: He was never "vote happy" (not on the top wagons anyway), and he suspects Nono.

P.S. I see your argument about him being on 3 mis-dunks, but my point is he wasn't on different top wagons (which was the main point I had against CE)

How well did that point work out against CE?

[Casey]

GV: Raya36

GV: Lavender

FAKE Votecount 6.1 (fixed)

Target	Wagon
Hiraki (L-2)	Marksman, Raya36, Isis
innocentvillager (L-3)	Lavender, Nono
Nono (L-3)	Hiraki, Raya36
Marksman (L-4)	Hiraki
Almost50 (L-4)	Nono
Raya36 (L-4)	innocentvillager
Lavender (L-4)	innocentvillager
Casey (L-5)
Isis (L-5)
Not Voting (2)	Casey, Almost50

With 9 alive, it's 5 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-17 11:18:59) until the buzzer beeps.

I really appreciate the blank lines.

[Casey]

IV/Hiraki/Raya. I can't make any other group make sense.

Heck, everyone post your most likely maf trio please.

[Casey]

IV/Hiraki/Raya. I can't make any other group make sense.

Heck, everyone post your most likely maf trio please.

what are you hoping to get out of this? any individual combination is so unlikely, might as well just post a readslist lol.

I'm hoping to find scummy people who do not comply and have defensive reactions to the request.

[Casey]

We have like 2 days & 2 hours left.

[Casey]

Two things.

1: I reread Raya and TR her for the first time. I also don't like Nono's vote on Raya.

2:

Anyone who hammers Hellbooks is claiming maf IMO.

fine. fine
VOTE: Hammer Hell don't say I don't pull my weight

VOTE: Nono

[Casey]

For reference:

Hiraki(D-2) Marksman, Raya36, Isis
Nono(D-2) Hiraki, Raya36, Casey
Raya36(D-3) innocentvillager, Nono
innocentvillager(D-3) Lavender, Nono

[Casey]

We need to flip Hiraki
The moaning about us doing so bad that we are only twice the size of the scumteam seems fake
Nono still isn't scum

Who else is mafia?

[Casey]

Don't try reasoning with Hiraki. All he does is deflect. There is zero reason to give Hiraki any sort of platform to communicate in any manner.

[Casey]

Like he can be town AND a hateful person at the same time. That's not unheard of.

[Casey]

That's my defense of Hiraki.

[Casey]

Look at that innocent face, guys; there's no way this can be scum.

Nono, vote for Hiraki when you come online pls

Is Nono ignoring the scum QT again?

[Casey]

I will admit part of my TR of Nono was because of the profile pic.

[Casey]

Isis/Raya/Hiraki/A50 are my strongest townreads now.

[Casey]

Lavender can you vote please? We're running out of time?

[Casey]

Requesting that you vote Nono. Hiraki is going to flip town.

[Casey]

Hiraki wanting to vote Nono definitely doesn't change my mind about Nono being town.

Casey why do you think Hiraki is town now?

I've been thinking Hiraki has been town for a while now. I flopped a bit due to uncertainty though.

[Casey]

Hiraki / Casey / A50 / Raya on Nono (L-1)

Marksman, Isis, and Lavender have posted without hammering.

The only person left is IV.

[Casey]

Imagine being this close to sweeping the game as maf and NOT hammering a freebie like Nono.

Either all 3 maf are on the Nono wagon, or Nono is maf.

[Casey]

All the maf have to do at this point is not vote and idle out and they win. Keep that in mind.

[Casey]

FTR I'm fairly certain everyone on Nono right now is town.

[Casey]

Hiraki / Casey / A50 / Raya on Nono (D-1)

Marksman on Hiraki (D-4)

Hiraki on Marksman (D-4)

Nono on Raya (D-4)

NV: Lavender, Isis

[Casey]

It is now safe to hammer if Nono flips green. (Why green and not blue? Colorblind people must be so frustrated!)

[Casey]

That stops the clock at least.

[Casey]

If this does flip green then you can be sure as heck 2-3 scum are on the wagon.

[Casey]

I mean that points squarely on like... You and Lavender.

[Casey]

My scumdar is broken.

[Casey]

huh? what are you talking about, Lav isn't on this wagon

You said there was no way there are 3 scum on this wagon. Meaning at least 1 of Lavender, you, and Isis are maf.

And I'd be really surprised if it were Isis in this situation.

[Casey]

If Nono is red, I'm going to have a difficult time not snap-voting Mark. Lavender and IV are top Nono partners.

Imagine if Mark had to carry this with both Nono and Lavender on his team. Lol.

[Casey]

Come up with another mislynch quick Hiraki!!

[Casey]

They're on to you!!

[Casey]

That's 4 mislynches in a row that Hiraki has participated in, for those of you participating at home.

[Casey]

IN A ROW.

[Casey]

I WISH.

[Casey]

We're all being trolled and Ruby accidentally made Wey the only maf. We actually won 6 days ago.

[Casey]

@Ruby: You have Nono voting from the grave.

fixed.
-rr

[Casey]

anyway we need to dunk again, we have like 8 more dunks to go and it seems we are getting penalized for twilight. I can dunk A50 if needed, he's just null to me atm

actually, we should try to predict when RR will be on and dunk right before then.

8 more dunks?? Do you expect us to get 5 dunks wrong??

So... about that...

[Casey]

If this flips town Hiraki is banned from the cool kids club.

This.
Pushed so many townies to their deaths.
Is trying to push Nono because he's running out of soft targets.
Is mad-defending Raya (buddy alert!)
Hiraki is not a cool kid.

VOTE: Hiraki

How many times am I gonna stop listening to myself?

[Casey]

@Casey - What changed your mind from declaring Marksman/Nono as your locktown reads that you were never voting?

I started doubting myself. I need to stop.

[Casey]

lav/isis are not partners

Curious how you came to that because they're still a big fat 0 on my board

[Casey]

im hard-assuming casey is town at this point i completely give up if casey is scum

I'm hard-assuming you're town too because the more you post the more you sound like an equally frantic but more realistic brother to me.

[Casey]

mostly because it's so unlikely that every single scum was off the wey wagon given that slot's scumminess and the fact that he was the leading wagon

?
Given the slot's scuminess, it's possible the wagon was natural and all town, and managed to beat out the scumdriven counterwagon(s). The assumption of at least 1 scum being on the Wey wagon is really arbitrary.

Also, scum keeping each other alive in nightless is important. You always end up with a couple or more of obvtownies that scum can never misdunk or nightkill in nightless games, so it's all the more important to keep everyone around and gain parity earlier. I think there's unlikely to be more than 1 scum on the Wey wagon, and I could see there being 0.

Why does this read like something you would post in a maf QT in order to coach your buddies?

[Casey]

i think we should all reread all of D1 especially the interactions around clone and clone's posting with the knowledge of people we know are town now and give our thoughts tomorrow. i feel like that might be the biggest source of information because we KNOW so many alignments from back then.

I did recently.

Mark and WLC had the biggest kerfuffle that lasted from the "explain the reads on the people who haven't posted" to WLC's ultimate dunk.

Nono, turns out, was actually right all along with their master plan.

He also had small conversations with me and A50.

CE and Hellbooks bothered him briefly, but he didn't really pay them much attention.

All other posts were NAI for me. He really avoided any true confrontation.

[Casey]

Well, I'm here if yall need anything |.o)

I'd like you to call someone out on something.

[Casey]

Specifically Isis or Raya.

[Casey]

letting Casey decide will be AT LEAST as good as random.

I don't know whether to feel good about that or be offended.

[Casey]

I am generally paranoid of people who townread me but that's all of you.

[Casey]

Okay.

VOTE: Hiraki

If you flip green you have this as an achievement as your worst towngame ever. We can all just pretend this never happened.

If you flip red, then FINALLY SOMETHING.

[Casey]

This is what my sad lil chart looks like now.



Hiraki red: Next choice is A50

Hiraki green: Next choice is Raya

[Casey]

Based on how Ruby Red's schedule happens to compare to Casey's we might have to vote on her contingencies?

I want to build up beyond a 0 with Lavender not because I am worried about ruling out scumteams or something or whatever but because Lavender is cool

Lavender come level up our relationship

Why'd you unvote Hiraki?

This has got to be the most bizarre post I've read in the latter half of the game.

[Casey]

Hiraki red: Next choice is A50

Hiraki green: Next choice is Isis

[Casey]

Yeah I'm willing to townclear Raya despite weak connections.

[Casey]

IV can be townclear too. Unless we end up in a Raya/IV/me situation. Then I will cry.

[Casey]

Carry us to victory, Casey.

That's what I'm concerned about.

[Casey]

Sec, gonna review early Isis.

[Casey]

This exchange. This is the one that bothered me so much about Isis, because of how

wrong

Isis's read of the situation was.

VOTE: Casey
Her posts are fun to read but I get somewhat of a vibe most of them are meant to look good.after a spat with Hiraki she voted him seemingly on principle rather than playing in a way that's likely to convince others to vote him even though she's so confident her vote is staying there for the rest of the game, supposedly.

@Isis: "after a spat with Hiraki she voted him seemingly on principle"

Excuse me, I voted Hiraki in #157, before any "spat" occurred. What are you talking about? And seemingly on principle? What principle is that?

Locked your vote's movement, tomato tomato

By "seemingly on principle" I mean you're voting him in a way that doesn't actually seem like its because you believe he will flip scum

This is wrong. I'm absolutely convinced Hiraki will flip scum.

Isis tried to move the goalposts. I don't like how Isis just gave up this train of thought. The next question to me is about... Marksman?

How's your intuition, Casey?

I want to subscribe to your current train of thought

If you're a gut player, does this mean you think Marksman is town, you just think he's wrong?

Then Isis hammers Wey and realizes it after the fact. D2 rolls in and Isis plunks votes on Lavender and Hayasaka. Doesn't mention me despite still voting me.

Then this exchange happens:

I townread Raya, although I don't agree with her reads for the most part. I think scum would do an emptier catchup given that pace of the game and she chose to give us a lot.

She didn't really give us a lot.

I really don't like how Isis (nor Raya?!) didn't respond to this jab.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lavender
It's probably a good time to vote one person at a time because of chainhammering?

Why is this formed as a question when you're taking action on it? That really bugs me.

Also, this is where I was unvoted. Isis had been doing a crazy job of keeping a vote on me for the majority of the game yet never engaging with me past D1. Or even mentioning that I'm a townread?? You'd think that'd come up somewhere.

The next time I'm mentioned is here:

I don't understand Casey's pairing list

I want to townlock Casey and I don't even care if it's wrong look at the pretty colors omg

That's like so much work

I generally agree with most of the cells

THAT'S what you townread me for? Like, nothing before then?

This progression is SO bizarre.

Then we get the "Casey up to Bat" saga, then Isis waxing about not wanting to play around a scum me.

I think this entire read on me has been BS from the beginning. Starting from a vote that she couldn't defend, it devolved into a quiet unvote, despite my multiple attempts to swing a bat at a hornet's nest. Then the only reason Isis vocalized for TRing me is because I made a pretty chart.

I think it's all BS.

There are no hornets—only a wolf.

[Casey]

VOTE: Isis

We can talk about the rest after the timer is stopped.

[Casey]

You aren't even responding to the worst parts about your case.

[Casey]

Like imagine your place is on fire and you look down and go, "Hey guys, I found two softballs!"

[Casey]

Yes, scum tend to be preoccupied with evidence rather than opinions.

[Casey]

I mean we can.

[Casey]

So we have to assume Isis is maf. There's no point in conjecturing a path where the game is just... over.

That leaves A50, Raya, and Lavender as big zero buddies via Isis, and Mark as a 5.

Suppose I'll reread Mark knowing Isis is maf.

I WOULD reread significant Raya/Isis and Lavender/Isis interactions BUT THERE ARE NONE.

[Casey]

(Also A50/Isis, I keep forgetting him because he's wedged in the right side.)

[Casey]

Actually A50 did interact a small amount with Isis but it was all unrequited.

[Casey]

Reading Marksman's questions to other players is like "Oops all softballs." I'm getting nothing from this.

[Casey]

I TR Marksman, Isis, Casey, Almost50, innocentvillager

This game is unsolvable

Somebody once told me having too many townreads is scummy.

Raya and Isis literally never talked to each other the entire game.

[Casey]

It means none of Mark's questions have any bite to them. They're just questions for the sake of looking like you're doing something.

[Casey]

This is the only Isis/Lav interaction and it's forced because Isis clearly says she's trying to avoid being a zero there.

Based on how Ruby Red's schedule happens to compare to Casey's we might have to vote on her contingencies?

I want to build up beyond a 0 with Lavender not because I am worried about ruling out scumteams or something or whatever but because Lavender is cool

Lavender come level up our relationship

Why'd you unvote Hiraki?

Lmao XD
I unvoted because
A. I’m really bad at reads, like really bad, so I second-guessed myself.
And
B. I wanted them to have a chance to say something before they got hammered.

If you're usually bad at reads, do you ever try finding townreads and trusting them?

I mean I think I do?
Maybe maybe...I can’t remember past times where I’ve decided to trust someone always except this game where we’re on our last stand.

[Casey]

This is my last associations post: A50.

@Isis: Are you

really

SRing me?

This went unanswered.

A50's AtE is pretty similar to how I've seen him play as town, but it doesn't make any sense that he'd avoid using AtE as scum.

Does it make any sense that I am not voting ANYONE as scum??

I have no idea how to read this.

[Casey]

yeah there’s almost no fucking way this slot flips green

I will send everyone currently alive in this game $100 usd on cash app if this flips green

I am dead fucking serious about this btw.

you’re telling me town!Isis doesn’t want $100 to get flipped? She’d rather flip someone else who she’s not sure will flip red anyway? Lmao

That's OGI and is unsportsmanlike in mafia.

[Casey]

If anything I think Raya and Isis not even mentioning each other at all feels slightly townier but whatever I can see a 0 in your matrix there

A 0 just means there's nothing to disprove this pairing.

I'm on your wavelength regarding Mark though.

[Casey]

Isis-I like the way their playing this, it feels the point of view of a town person playing this. Honestly, their posts give me more motivation to actually do something XD. (Btw you accidentally voted me twice in the past o.O)

i really don't think this is scum!Lav talking about a partner

I still think this is kind of significant

I know we are thinking about this a bit differently, I am kind of pushing the scum!narrative and trying to delve into the individual mindsets of each of these players deducing what is more or less likely to come from town/scum, while you’re looking primarily at pairwise associations.

Just want to keep that in context for everyone

I think it's good. We're coming at this from different angles and meeting in the middle to compare our thoughts.

I wouldn't vote Lavender unless we get down to 4-way.

[Casey]

So, being nightless, we essentially get double dunks in the finale.

The next to go: Mark, A50

The likely town (4-way/3-way votes): Lavender, Raya

The town: IV, me

This may change based on who flips maf among Mark and A50.

[Casey]

Hah, same-brain wavelengths there.

[Casey]

Ehehe. The scramble was real. Thanks for helping talk through everything.

[Casey]

VOTE: Marksman

[Casey]

VOTE: Almost50

[Casey]

If the game isn't over now, we're on autowin regardless.

[Casey]

He has a good style but the problem was that his style never changed throughout the game. The hustle, scramble, and emotional high of DuLo paranoia was lacking to the extreme.

[Casey]

This was truly an incredible game with an unthinkable comeback. The serious scramble to assemble a solution in the final 48 hours was probably the most positive moment I've experienced while playing mafia.

I really loved this "pure" form of mafia where the only game mechanic was voting. I'm terrible with mechanics and will sheep my gut nine times out of ten. I would absolutely join more Crossfire games in the future.

In terms of balance, I like to think that the number of mislynches required to have a mafia win should be equal to the number of mafia players. That would be -2 townies for this setup.

The fact that we were able to double-dunk in DuLo and essentially pull ourselves out of it was *really* valuable.

I think 8 town / 4 mafia could easily be doable.

* * * *

Now it's thank-you time!!

Ruby Red - I loved, loved, LOVED this setup. It's right up my alley. The basketball gifs and subtle weirdness helped lighten the seriousness of the game. I appreciated it all!

WeyounsLastClone - Sorry about the early dunk! Looking forward to reading the mafia chat!

Hayasaka - You were great this game.

Hellbooks - I thoroughly enjoyed your posting!

Elements - I would have loved to see more of you.

Chemical Elements - I hope to see more of you!

Nono - Yesyes. Thank you for showing me I could snip quotes by highlighting text before tapping the Quote button! Your solves and pressure were endearing.

Hiraki - Thank you for taking this one humbly. Sorry for butting heads so much.

Isis - Just a little more gas and you would have crossed the finish line, I'm sure of it! Thank you for your effort!

Marksman - You clever little trickster. You were the only person in the game who interacted with everyone. Thank you for putting my scumhunting mettle to the test!

Almost50 - Thank you for the respect.

Raya - Thank you for replacing in!

Lavender - Thank you for seeing this one to the end. I hope you had fun!

Innocentvillager - THANK YOU. This guy right here. We spoke on so many wavelengths to solve the game and clear each other. Our back-and-forth was unlike anything I had ever experienced in a mafia game, with each of us building on the other's work. You. Were. The. Best. Town. Buddy. Ever!!

This was definitely one of my most favorite mafia games I've ever played. 10/10 would do it again in a heartbeat!!

[Casey]

Hard agree that Isis carried that team to the bank.

[Casey]

SCUM PT COMMENTS

@Wey to Marksman: "Even if they lynch me, I think it will pretty much give you safe passage for quite some time."

So true.


@A50: "I didn't even remember WLC was on my team (that's the way I approach my scum games, Forget that I'm scum and act like I am scumhunting for real)."

That... doesn't sound fair. One of the burdens of being on the mafia team is perfect knowledge. And to intentionally lose that disadvantage just doesn't feel like you're playing the game as intended.


DEAD/SPEC PT COMMENTS

@Chemical Elements: "My current guess of the team: Raya36, Lavender, and Casey."

The winning team? Yes. Don't forget IV!

[Casey]

Nice comeback @town. I was most sincere about not being vote happy though. There were times when we needed only one additional (town on town) vote for us to end the game instantly.

I noticed! That's pretty wild.

I love the multi-voting. It makes it so much easier to see who's committing and who isn't.

[Casey]

yeah Casey past two RL days collabing with you was awesome and essential for our win! it was really great that we helped give each other more confidence in our reads approaching the game from different angles

as an aside: i will say this game kind of bled into RL mentally for me as well especially at the end lol, I need to be able to separate mafia from RL better (as you can see from my frequent frantic posting), this is partly why i keep going on hiatus after hiatus and I might have to start another one soon because of this but i had a lot of fun so I'm sure I'll be back eventually!

<3!

It's important to stay healthy in both body and mind. You take care of yourself. I'll remember this for quite some time.