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[NorwegianboyEE]

i do get the meaning of the word; still, thank u for that, cause Im also not a native.
I mean what r u accusing me of, specifically?

Word, i'm not an native speaker either, but i usually don't bring that up unless i want to mask my mistakes as scum.
You're not that bad at it.

[Isis]

I like to think I can do almost anything as scum. I'm not sure if I wallpost more or less as scum
I'm usually more likely to be caught as scum when I post more, in general. I post a lot when I roll scum anyway, just to stay similar to how I play town (not because "get in the thread and get townread" is a good strategy, I don't think that's the best way to play scum).
Assassins mafia I kind of won as scum because I had a V/LA so I didn't really get caught.

pedit: you should reconsider your guess at my alignment

and the hypocrisy is : "the (short) volume of my post is NAI, because I had exams IRL => the (long) volume of Isis post shows she's scum, even though she had 4 hours to burn IRL"

hypocrisy might not be the perfect word

[word321]

Just to nail the point, I write walls, sometimes as townie and sometimes as scum; its in both metas
but usually my walls have an agenda behind
norwee has seen both, hectic has seen only the scummies and maybe clidd has seeen the townie ones

but usually if i say so myself they have different intent and purposes; they have different capitals to be gained. The first, to investigate, speculate, and land Ideas on town, the second to survive and frame. Despite that, in format they be essentially the same, but in situation they do vary somewhat.

What im saying is, if I write a wall and there is more capital for that particular wall as scum than as town, by all means, call that on me; but I dnt think I have 2 different criterias to this phenomena, I even explicitely ackowledged the possibility of it being a town wall instead of scum; so I rly cant understand why u took it so bad and why u find it so hypocrite on my behalf. If I have low activity, I too should be pushed against the wall to generate more content in that sense, in the converse sens

[word321]

i got ninjaed somewhat i think
and my browser seems to be havng problems with previews, cause i havent recieved some for some reason

[Isis]

yeah by the exact reasoning you're giving, I'm taking it so bad because you've done absolutely nothing to analyze my content besides say "it was scummy to write a wall"??? you haven't used the quote function with respect to it a single time, haven't needed to, because you're taking what looks like a rather simple, easy, basic position.

[Isis]

VOTE: word321

This is like, way too dissonant
It reads like he thinks he's mimicked a push he'd actually make as town, but hasn't

[word321]

i reread the whole thread
I gave my first impressions
I havent isoed u extensively
those r all true

and despite that, Ive voted u, thats also true
I havent isoed anyone in particular except dannflor and hayasaka
and ur time will come, but u do have some amount of content that
if u like it that way, think of it as a placeholder till I get my game straight
cause as the only argument I argument I gave is not damning and kind of weak, so is my confidence on u being scum

[Isis]

Once I have a concern with whether it's genuine
confidence level doesn't matter

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am not arguing we should be killing town but it's more I think we should put a stronger focus on town hunting right now?
My nomination for the first town is Dannflor.

hey hey
I townlean Dannflor too and all that
But from the few amount of posts he has given,and considering he is on VLA, we wont rly get that much info there on short notice, and im not confident enought to make the call like ~now~

I don't like this post as seems lamist or a pocket by work on haya.
Plus the call on whether Dannflor is first town won't matter until heaven phase anyways.
Locating town is good and all but scum hunting is the main purpose of hell phase.

[WaltertheDunce10]

We are at e-1 on word I believe.

[Hayasaka]

Don't tempt me

[Hayasaka]

I forgot to sleep oops

[NorwegianboyEE]

Morning sunshine.
What's your read on Word right now?

[Cthylla]

Word is really demonic
I disagree with almost all of his takes in his readlist in 312, and I think he tried to buddy people with the "Isis is cool even though I think she's scum" or the "don't have a read on Cthylla but seems like a nice guy/gal"

306 and 357 are also scum-indicative because of the use of the word "genuinely"
Gives me the feeling he genuinely did do those specific things, despite the fact he's scum
Also, the Isis read is really fabricated in particular
Think this flips scum, so why not pull the trigger

Sorry, bud, see you in the next life

VOTE: word

[NorwegianboyEE]

Boiii

[Cthylla]

Imagine all of that was in a cool green colour v)

[Hayasaka]

Morning sunshine.
What's your read on Word right now?

I agree with the consensus he is flipping demon right now. Something about the way he is posting is giving me the feeling he is walling because he can not because he should. I also think he looks worse in his current exchange with Isis.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Now we can all talk like characters in a visual novel. Yay.

[clidd]

I'm.. Back.. Reading.. Soon..

[Isis]

Hmm

That maybe have been more decisive than I would have preferred

Cythlla, would you ever lolhammer a partner for the bonus credz?

[Isis]

norwee what is the source of your clowngirl avatar?

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee what is the source of your clowngirl avatar?

You mean where i found the picture? Or where the character is from?

[Isis]

It seems to be a consistent character portrayed across many of your avatar selections so it must come from somewhere

[clidd]

Spoiler:

Is the difference between the Isis chute and the Cth chute font??
there's nothing more in your posts that i can find
what's the deal
I only figured out the "chutes" the second time
chutes and ladders

No, it's not the font.

I should really play the game though as happy as I am to see Isis order my favorite card and would love to stay off topic.
I think one of Isis or Cthylla is scum here, I think scum have the most incentive to open up the game with this much presence.

Similarly to the way scum tend to open up theme games strongly because they spent time getting hyped up already. I think scum would look and see their win con involves getting sent to heaven and would promptly decide to open up the game like this to try and achieve an early pocket.

The only read I am particularly happy about is my current vote. I think your

<GC note: "your" is "Isis">

energy is headed into way too many OOG posts for me to be able to think you are trying to actually pocket anyone.

Post 58 is a cute theory to pursue early D1. That means either Isis or Cthylla is voteworthy under this theory.

Note I was voting Isis before digesting Post 58, in an initial skim of the 4 or so pages that existed then, because of the font thing to register my annoyance.

Post 82 is Hayasaka explaining why she went the Cthylla-vote route rather than Isis-vote route. Once I figured out what she meant by OOG, I disagreed with that being a basis to discount an Isis vote under her theory, and was comfortable with keeping my vote where it is at this point.

This doesn't make sense
1. You RVS vote me for my font
2. Narset says Cythlla and Isis are scummy, but Isis is scummier because Nihonium has 115 atoms.
3. You have to figure out what Nihonium is and once you've clarified that part is invalid, so Cythlla and Isis remain equally good votes.
4. Later you are "happy with your vote"? Is that verbiage you would usually use to describe a vote you cast between 2 candidates with no way to differentiate them at all?

Correction:

I don't think that you consider that continually speculating *

- This isn't a freudian slip, I'm not native to english.

En la lengua espanol, el negativo doble significa negativo jajaja.

i change playstyle and gimmick across alts
sureness of reads are part of playstyle and i have plenty of town and scum games where i act very sure about reads
and also plenty where i act or am unsure about them

Etto.. actual read confidence is pretty key for trying to read people.
It's just a forum game but if this gets you misread sometimes because you make your read progressions harder to follow I hope you don't get mad about it.

this is a big part of the reason i secret alt btw
not because i have any meta tells - i don't think i do or no one's found one as far as i'm aware
but just because people see someone they've played with before acting differently from the previous game where that person was town, and assume that means they're scum

baddies gonna bad

Nobody is going to give a bad strategy to hurt town--neither town (obviously) or scum are motivated to openly suggest bad strategies.

This is kind of an incomplete view, actually, Bingle was obvscum in Fogport because he usually provides a lot of input on optimal mechanical play but only made token contributions because he was scum needing town to throw. Also I've openly suggested bad strategies when I was confident my work couldn't/wouldn't be checked in the proper way but admittedly that is extremely rare and a bit like stealing second base. Volxen and Elements also did it to win Undertale Semi-open and it was baller

why don't I look like Hectic?

You don't seem to be flowing naturally in your texts (my personal view).

clidd, Cythilla has referenced past games Hectic played with me, so either Cythlla is Hectic or Cythlla is one of very few players that spectates most or all game on the forum.

he can think you're wrong or show frustration as scum as well clidd

Yeah, I kind of feel like clidd is wrong here but I'm reading the way he's going about it as townish?

Hey Miss Hayasaka and Miss Isis, I would like to ask two questions:

1. what do you think about the suspicions on Word ?
2. by extension, what are your opinions on the AI ​​impression I got from G.C ? does it make sense ?

Word is scummier than rand, and as he hasn't followed up his entrance and Walter has been a little townish in his followup, Word is left the most likely scum straggler in this sort of category.
I think GC is scummy although the stuff he says about mechtalk being ok is true, about how as long as you still have other content you'll still be readable is true. But on a different axis, I think it's scummy in the sense that it's what he's excited proportional to other things going on. It suggests maybe he doesn't have any alignment mysteries to solve.
I agree with Cythlla that being emotional about the argument means little.
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Walter and word shading me for posting offtopic, I enjoy doing that as both alignments >_>
I hate it, the more people police that, the more it becomes "the more you play mafia in a way that's less fun for you the more you can win", regardless of my alignment, and it sucks without actually being a good way of reading me.
The only times posting offtopic is remotely scum indicative is when it's used to mask a low amount of content, and paradoxically I am getting scumread by Narset, GC,

and word??

for having too much content!
pls
why

Isis is talkative, Hayasaka talked explicitely being talkative is a mark of scumsiness and shaded Isis by this
If they were scum together, one would expect Hayasaka to comunicate those kind of things on a PT

This doesn't actually make sense because accusing the most active players of being scum because they're active is a hipster take that rarely appears in games, so if Narset said nothing at all it's highly unlikely anyone would have suggested the concept all game. Also frustrating when I'm a top poster in basically all my games grumble but I think it's good faith because I've had scum partners in scum PTs say "what I think about this setup is we need to hit the ground running and get townread in this playerlist/setup". Not to my agreement

I have difficulty commenting on all points on an ongoing basis (it would be good if you fragmented, if possible, different subjects into more posts).

But in general I understood what you conveyed.

On the subject of GC, I found it suspicious the way he was approaching strategies because it is an easy method of looking busy (and I classify those posts as filler saying what should be done/how/why in terms of strat), but the feeling I had when I saw his reactions (along with the responses) during the discussion period gave me a strong impression that there was some feeling that I think was genuine anger there, which is what I cannot dismiss.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It seems to be a consistent character portrayed across many of your avatar selections so it must come from somewhere

Touhou project.