Open 87 - Baby Too Much Scum - Over before 641

farside22 · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:43 am

votes:
Oman 1 vote: (Armlx)
Mencellator 1 vote: (skitzer)
Crazy 1 votes: (Grimmy)
iamausername 1 vote: (Goatrevolt)
Grimmy 3 votes (Crazy, iamausername, Mencellator)

Not voting

Oman

8 people 5 to lynch
Deadline August 17th 2:00pm PST

iamausername · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:01 am

Oman wrote:
iamausername wrote:
Oman wrote:armlx is now anti-OGML, which kinda sucks.
Why does that suck?
Cause it means that a bandwagon forms, which means I need to form an opinion on it.

Why do you think armlx was responsible for the OGML wagon forming?

skitzer · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:44 am

OK, I guess I was incorrect about the Goatrevolt thing. I did find it strange though that he wanted opinions, maybe like he was trying to get people to side with him?

Crazy wrote: As Mencellator says an SK would want to turn everyone against each other, so would scum. So saying that OGML could be the SK suggests that Mencellator knows something...

I think I can actually agree with Crazy here.

I'm not quite sure I remember switching my vote to Netran/Mencellator.

unvote

farside22 · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:46 am

OGML has asked to be replaced. Heading to the que line

Oman · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:51 am

iamausername wrote:
Oman wrote:
iamausername wrote:
Oman wrote:armlx is now anti-OGML, which kinda sucks.
Why does that suck?
Cause it means that a bandwagon forms, which means I need to form an opinion on it.
Why do you think armlx was responsible for the OGML wagon forming?

Its a number of votes thing...

armlx · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:13 am

Oman, why are you against forming opinions, and why are you blaming a wagon on someone who is only supporting it?

Oman · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:07 am

I'm against having to reread. And I never said I was blaming you.

armlx · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:23 pm

You just said I was responsible for it the post before I asked that.

Oman · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:12 pm

How do I say you're responsible?

armlx · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:23 pm

Your response to the question was not "He wasn't responsible", but instead an explanation of how I was....

Oman · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:44 pm

Did you vote him?

armlx · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:38 am

No, I did not, but why was your response to the question an implication that I was responsible?

Oman · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:59 am

I said: "Its a number of

votes

thing..." meaning that if you'd voted, as you implied that you would, then you would be responsible for forcing my reread.

If someone else did, then they would be responsible.

iamausername · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:15 am

iamausername wrote:
Oman wrote:
iamausername wrote:
Oman wrote:armlx is now anti-OGML, which kinda sucks.
Why does that suck?
Cause it means that a bandwagon forms, which means I need to form an opinion on it.

How does this conversation not imply that you think armlx was responsible for the OGML wagon?

Oman · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:21 am

Implications are not my fault, they are client side.

iamausername · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:31 am

OK, fine, how does that conversation not

directly state

that you think armlx is responsible?

farside22 · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:35 am

Grimmy will be replacing OGML effective immediately!
Thanks Grimmy

Grimmy · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:47 am

Anytime Farside.

Anywho
Im gonna have to look to see how I got three votes on me, and see what has happened.

OMGrimmy

Grimmy · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:34 am

Brief read #1

Two of the three votes on me (OMGL) were for him lurking. As he disappeared, and was replaced, that leaves me with one vote for a reason other than lurking.

Crazy's vote.

Now I need to try to figure out why OMGL voted the way he did.

Time for further reading.

Grimmy
will update as he goes.

Grimmy · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:38 am

Short note about my thoughts on the set up of the game.

The two mafia are basically masons for this game, as they have no night kills, so they are basically town, and will do their best to act as such.

The Sk will ALSO try to act town, as his only concern is to not get lynched. He is the only one with a NK, so it wont be easy to determine who he is based upon the night kills.

All in all, this is a town vs town game, with one person NK'ing to wipe out the numbers.

That said, Im suspicious of the arguements between two people who seem to be argueing over silly things as a way to dfistance themsevles from others. Ill read more and get back to this with a FOS at least.

Grimmy

Grimmy · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:11 am

Crazy wrote:So apparently Armlx and Oman saw Goat's first vote differently, right? Then it doesn't really matter who was right. And this whole arguing over semantics is pointless.

On another point,
Vote OGML
. He seems to have approved of every wagon thus far.

To this point, OMGL voted for TWO wagons.

The latter is yours.

And reading back, I can see the reasoning for this vote on you, so I will leave it where it is.

You, however, not only jumped on more wagons, but have switched seats more times than anyone else. You are actively trying to get on a wagon to see someone lynched, but in a position to where you cannot be blamed if the lynch turns up a townie.

Also,

fos oman and Goat

In this arguement, one or both of you are scum. I see different reasons for an either/or case, so I am FOS'ing both to make my intentions known that I find your many parts of the arguement between you two as scummy. Crazy chiming in to this arguement added to his guiltiness too (if truthiness can be a word, so should Guiltiness!)

So far, those are my top three suspects.
Crazy
Oman
Goat

Grimmy
almost all cuaghted up

armlx · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:28 am

So, Grimmy, is what you are saying that you think Oman + Goat = Mafia and Crazy = SK, or do you think there is another reasoning for the distancing argument?

Crazy · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:42 am

First of all, I'm surprised that the OGML wagon got off that fast. I was just thinking that a small case on him might make him talk more. Anyway,

Unvote

because that vote isn't going to help Grimmy any.

Grimmy wrote:The two mafia are basically masons for this game, as they have no night kills, so they are basically town, and will do their best to act as such.

The mafia in this game won't act any different then the mafia in a regular game. They still want to appear town, and they still want to see someone lynched that's not them.

I get what Oman was saying by the "number of votes" thing. I didn't originally, but it obviously didn't show that armlx was responsible. What I find suspicious is Iamausername beating this dead case with a stick, after it was pretty much proven what Oman meant in that post.

FoS Iamausername

But the case against Oman made me think of another point: Oman's apathetic view towards this game. Granted, this game has been somewhat slow-paced, but I'd think Oman would be more excited about this game than most of us. Now I wonder if this apathy is just an excuse for him not to attempt to scum-hunt.

FoS Oman

armlx · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:46 am

I do not like the above posts. Lots of FOS's, unvotes for little reason, etc.

Crazy · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:10 am

Keeping my vote on Grimmy won't do any good. He can't explain for OGML.

And what's wrong with FoSing people? I'll vote for one of them if you like; it doesn't really make a difference to me.