Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]


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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:13 pm

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And again, is anyone TRing hiraki?
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:17 pm

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In post 342, Hiraki wrote:i would much rather menalque but we seem to be at a standstill so

Unvote, Vote: TripleHaven


I feel there is potential of an overcockiness in TripleHaven rather than a scumflip
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Is that you saying you're voting someone you don't think is going to flip anti-town or am I misunderstanding the bolded?

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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:27 pm

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In post 345, Menalque wrote:He just like, hasn’t felt meaningfully scumhunty to me? Like, my definition of scumhunting doesn’t include “pick 4 names and loudly shout that they’re scum”
I won't explain his play not try to respond on his behalf, but I have already made the mistake outing I TR dram, so I don't see why I can't say the following:

Ask yourself what is the scum motive behind “pick(ing) 4 names and loudly shout(ing) that they’re scum”. If there's even 1 scum in that pool they'd thing dram is on the other team and shoot him. If X doesn't like his reads (and many appear to be on that list) and X happens to be a TPR they're more likely to target him. In short, right or wrong, dram is setting himself to be a high priority target for night action for either or both sides (town being one side, and anti-town collectively being the other).

Now scum would want to be in that spot because..?

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 426, Almost50 wrote:
In post 342, Hiraki wrote:i would much rather menalque but we seem to be at a standstill so

Unvote, Vote: TripleHaven


I feel there is potential of an overcockiness in TripleHaven rather than a scumflip
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Is that you saying you're voting someone you don't think is going to flip anti-town or am I misunderstanding the bolded?
Misunderstanding. I am more confident in Melanque but it doesn't seem like that will occur today. I already pointed out problems I had with Triple early on.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:32 pm

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In post 350, Menalque wrote:I think I may just townbin A50 and worry about that later if it needs to be worried about
A better phrasing would have been: I suspect A50 like I always do, but he's not a top priority on D1. :lol:

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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 423, Menalque wrote:Okay why do you consider that important/best done through keeping your reads to yourself?
Do you have a better way of protecting your own Townreads from the NKs?

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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:19 pm

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It started with y vote on him in RVS (which was semi-serious). Not reading the OP is bad and especially so coming from someone who is "new to the site". Then I didn't like his tone and his responses strike me as manufactured (as in.. text book responses). I don't have a better target to vote right now, and I like dram for town, so this is where I want my vote to be still.

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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:39 pm

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VC 1.6Hiraki (4) - Menalque, Dannflor, Umlaut, TripleHaven [E-3]
TripleHaven (3) - Almost50, dramonic, Hiraki
Almost50 (2) - Testarossa, Gypyx
Menalque (1) - teacher
teacher (1) - Marashu

Not voting: Dunnstral, Crush

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-23 18:40:00) or when an exile is reached.

Marashu is V/LA for probably the next day or so.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:39 pm

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In post 422, Almost50 wrote:
In post 420, Menalque wrote:Which benefits exactly are you expecting to see by concealing your reads?
Protecting my TRs. Plain and simple.
but doesn't that assume that all your TR's are going to die?

are you saying that you have control over a night kill?

:think:
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:42 pm

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seriously why is almost50 so confident in this
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:43 pm

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Omgus much?

Also, should be kinda obvs, but universal townreads are strong nk candidates. That’s why he wants to sit on it.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:51 pm

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In post 435, teacher wrote:Omgus much?

Also, should be kinda obvs, but universal townreads are strong nk candidates. That’s why he wants to sit on it.
Universal townreads yes, but there's not really any of those right now. Also it definitely doesn't help to solve his slot when he won't give reads.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:54 pm

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you think almost50 is the scummiest slot triplehaven?

where are your other reads at?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 437, Dannflor wrote:you think almost50 is the scummiest slot triplehaven?

where are your other reads at?
Not really, I was trying to make a joke lol
I think Dam and Hiraki both have a higher chance of flipping scum
speaking of,
VOTE: dam
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:00 pm

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In post 433, TripleHaven wrote:
In post 422, Almost50 wrote:
In post 420, Menalque wrote:Which benefits exactly are you expecting to see by concealing your reads?
Protecting my TRs. Plain and simple.
but doesn't that assume that all your TR's are going to die?

are you saying that you have control over a night kill?

:think:
VOTE: almost50
Jesus christ are we seriously ignoring this flailing?


Serious question, since I have been away for a couple years: What's with the new lingo of exile and gylo or whatever that was. Like I understand what people mean, but did we decide that lynch was no longer pc?


I really don't like the wagon on Hiraki, who's probably one of the townier player in the game rn if you actually look at what hes doing as opposed to flailing hysterically because he's abrasive.


I know Im supposed to answer something, sorry but im gonna have to doublepost.


Edit: I assume you mean me and not dan with that vote? Either way... "Teehee jk I dont want flak!"
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:01 pm

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Careful voting TH guys, you're gonna get added to her very real scumlist :o
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 438, TripleHaven wrote:
In post 437, Dannflor wrote:you think almost50 is the scummiest slot triplehaven?

where are your other reads at?
Not really, I was trying to make a joke lol
I think Dam and Hiraki both have a higher chance of flipping scum
speaking of,
VOTE: dam
why dram over hiraki?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 439, dramonic wrote:if you actually look at what hes doing
what is he doing?
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 439, dramonic wrote:Serious question, since I have been away for a couple years: What's with the new lingo of exile and gylo or whatever that was. Like I understand what people mean, but did we decide that lynch was no longer pc?
About a month ago - click into any of the game sections and see the new rule on top. Also why the logo went by the boards. As for the thing you owe, it is to help me find town in Hiraki
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:09 pm

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@Teach: He actually has conviction in what hes saying and isnt trying to backtrack constantly by going "it's a joke teehee". He's also not trying to placate the people attacking him cuz hes town and therefore knows they're wrong, vs trying to repaint his posts in a different light in hopes people will relieve the pressure.

Also there's already plenty people being significantly scummier and look at that wagon composition
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 441, Dannflor wrote:
In post 438, TripleHaven wrote:
In post 437, Dannflor wrote:you think almost50 is the scummiest slot triplehaven?

where are your other reads at?
Not really, I was trying to make a joke lol
I think Dam and Hiraki both have a higher chance of flipping scum
speaking of,
VOTE: dam
why dram over hiraki?
My thoughts on hiraki are kinda conflicting. The hiraki wagon has been pretty stagent and there's almost no pushback on it happening, but at the same time I townread people on that wagon (you and mena are toptown, don't know about umulaut i'd have to ISO them). Hiraki himself isn't towny, like at all really, but it's almost like.. "would a wolf flail this much"?

Does anyone have meta on Hiraki? does he usually act this way?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:13 pm

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Turns out jokes aren't allowed on Mafiascum.net. I am sorry for my mistake and will now be stone-faced serious from now on. :|
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:14 pm

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You
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wanna talk about flailing?
Also cant find the rule teach :/
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 433, TripleHaven wrote:
In post 422, Almost50 wrote:
In post 420, Menalque wrote:Which benefits exactly are you expecting to see by concealing your reads?
Protecting my TRs. Plain and simple.
but doesn't that assume that all your TR's are going to die?

are you saying that you have control over a night kill?

:think:
VOTE: almost50
This is one of the
silliest
arguments I have ever seen made against me. :lol:

What does "protecting my TRs" and me "having control on a NK" have to do with each other? Why wouldn't I TR you by day and shoot you at night? In fact, that would give earn me some credibility (having recognized you as a townie and stated it in public).

And what does the first part even mean? Maybe I only have 2 confident TRs? Maybe I have up to 4 but can't explain them without giving away "stuff"?

But more importantly: Why would you care whom I TR anyway? What's it to you? You should only care about whom I'm SRing and why. No?

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 447, dramonic wrote:You
really
wanna talk about flailing?
Also cant find the rule teach :/
I didn't say I wasn't! /j

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