Mini 637: Xyl's Smalltown Plus - Game Over

[Xylthixlm]

Vote Count

ZombieSlayer54 -

2

(armlx, pwnz)
wolframnhart -

2

(Empking, charter)
armlx -

2

(nhat, ZombieSlayer54)

Not voting: hasdgfas, wolframnhart

With 8 alive, it will take 5 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 is Saturday, August 16 at 7:00 PM Pacific.

[charter]

Any word on when we can get a replacement in?

I'm still looking.

[Xylthixlm]

Geddingsworth replaces Styro/nhat.

[armlx]

Yay, someone I know isn't Gimbo.

[Empking]

Why are you killing me?

Apparently, you missed the memo that wolf poisoned you like 7 pages ago.

Actually I didn't. I know I can't save myself and I know you're killing me because you don't like scum hunting.

[pwnz]

How do you intend to effectively scum-hunt if you just so happened to accidentally read over the fact that we poisoned you?

Now that it should be obvious, you might as well spill your guts and let us all know what you think of the game from an objective standpoint. Seriously, no pressure, I'm sure I'll know what you're allignment really was by the end of the day anyhow.

[pwnz]

EBWOP:

Also, answer the damn question effectively! I still don't understand your vote on wolframnhart...

[armlx]

I know I can't save myself and I know you're killing me because you don't like scum hunting

I lol'ed.

Now that it should be obvious, you might as well spill your guts and let us all know what you think of the game from an objective standpoint. Seriously, no pressure, I'm sure I'll know what you're allignment really was by the end of the day anyhow.

Emp, please do this.

[Geddingsworth]

Hi everyone. I was reading along with the thread carefully up through the suicide bombings, and skimming it after that. I'm going to reread and post some more extensive thoughts, but my first impression is twofold:

1. Anyone voting Armlx for reasons along the line of "he's

too

townie" should go remove their head from their ass.
2. Why isn't ZombieSlayer lynched again? Seriously, you're trusting a cop claim even after Armlx's Gunsmith counter?

More soonish.

[ZombieSlayer54]

Geddings: What is so wrong with believing a cop-claim just because there is a Gunsmith in the game, too?

Is it so hard to believe that there might be two investigative roles in the game?

Also, since I believe you are probably going to vote me...

Unvote, Vote Wolframnhart

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

[Geddingsworth]

Hm.

Post reread, here's what else I've got:

My first point above mainly applies to ZS, who I still think should die. I don't trust insurance salesmen.

Wolf has been subtly bothering me since very early. I'm probably just paranoid about the poisoner being mafia, but these later posts about ZS brought that feeling back up again.

It also occurred to me that we should perhaps be looking at how close we are to endgame. If we miss on both the poison and our lynch, we could end up with 4 dead townies tomorrow morning (assuming there's an SK). That freaks me out. Actually, if Wolf is scum and we don't lynch him, we've near lost the game (barring a lucky MUP or cross-kill).

Hm.

Vote ZombieSlayer54

. I'm still more comfortable with that.

[Geddingsworth]

Geddings: What is so wrong with believing a cop-claim just because there is a Gunsmith in the game, too?

Is it so hard to believe that there might be two investigative roles in the game?

Uh... yes. Cop + Gunsmith + Tracker + Night Watchman + MUP + Inventor + other secret roles is too much for me in a 12 player game. Even if it's not too much (some of those roles could get put on the same player, for example) I don't want to use role info to cloud my judgment in this game. You were my top suspect all the way back to nearly your first post, and I have no qualms about lynching you for your play rather than letting you live for your claim.

Besides, it's easy to see a scum recognize that they're going down and pull a "secret cop" claim out to try and halt their fall. It's even easier to see in a this game, where you're unlikely to get counterclaimed.

Also, since I believe you are probably going to vote me...

Unvote, Vote Wolframnhart

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

This doesn't help you.

[armlx]

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

.....

[hasdgfas]

Geddings: What is so wrong with believing a cop-claim just because there is a Gunsmith in the game, too?

Is it so hard to believe that there might be two investigative roles in the game?

Also, since I believe you are probably going to vote me...

Unvote, Vote Wolframnhart

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

I hate hate hate hate hate self-preservation votes.

Why are you killing me?

Apparently, you missed the memo that wolf poisoned you like 7 pages ago.

Actually I didn't. I know I can't save myself and I know you're killing me because you don't like scum hunting.

Empking, you have NOTHING TO LOSE at this point. You're going to die. If you actually are town, you need to start actually

trying

in this game. I'm tired of you saying "wolf is scum, just look at his posts" when you're the one who has to be convincing us when we don't see it. Show us what you see and we might actually listen to you if you have good points. If you continue acting like this, it makes me more and more convinced that you're scum that just doesn't care.

[Empking]

I CAN'T PROVE HE

NEVER

DID SOMETHING BY QUOTING ONE POST.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE IF HE NEVER SCUM HUNTS YOU HAVE TO READ ALL HIS POSTS.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHY I THINK WOLF IS SCUMMY YOU HAVE TO READ MY POSTS.

I CAN'T SHOW SOMETHING TO YOU IF YOU REFUSE TO READ. I HAVE SAID WHY I THINK WOLF IS SCUMMY MANY TIME.

IN THE HOPE THAT WRITING IT IN CAPITALS ALLOWS YOU TO READ IT. HE TRIES TO MISLEAD THE TOWN, HE TRIES TO LOOK TOWNIE WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TOWNIE, HE DOESN'T TRY TO SCUM HUNT.

Now that you've hopefully read it I don't need to write in caps any more. Pwnz I knew I was poisoned, don't make groundless claims.

Pwnz: Makes groundless claims, doesn't contribute. Scummy
Armix: Most pro-town. The arguments against him are terrible. Suports pro-town actions.
hasdgfas: Purpousely acts stupid. Isn't one of the top contributers.
ZombieSlayer54: Not got a read either way but he is voting for wolf so that's one thing in his favour.

[hasdgfas]

I CAN'T PROVE HE

NEVER

DID SOMETHING BY QUOTING ONE POST.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE IF HE NEVER SCUM HUNTS YOU HAVE TO READ ALL HIS POSTS.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHY I THINK WOLF IS SCUMMY YOU HAVE TO READ MY POSTS.

I CAN'T SHOW SOMETHING TO YOU IF YOU REFUSE TO READ. I HAVE SAID WHY I THINK WOLF IS SCUMMY MANY TIME.

IN THE HOPE THAT WRITING IT IN CAPITALS ALLOWS YOU TO READ IT. HE TRIES TO MISLEAD THE TOWN, HE TRIES TO LOOK TOWNIE WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TOWNIE, HE DOESN'T TRY TO SCUM HUNT.

THEN SHOW US HOW HE TRIES TO MISLEAD THE TOWN AT THE VERY LEAST. YOU CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT HE "NEVER DOES" IT IS SOMETHING THAT HE DOES. SHOW US WHERE. THANK YOU.

hasdgfas: Purpousely acts stupid. Isn't one of the top contributers.

Really? I have the third most posts in this game behind armlx and ZS. And where have I acted stupid?

[wolframnhart]

LoL i like that he gives ZS favour point cuz he voted for me. Which btw the wording to his vote:

Unvote, Vote Wolframnhart

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

Is just odd, much like his whole "insurance vote" he did before with armlx

[pwnz]

I've actually been on the moon before. I flew there last night on my privately owned lunar lander. My family owns a summer home up there. The view is nice but the whole lack of oxygen thing is kind of a buzzkill. At least the neighbors are nice.

[ZombieSlayer54]

Geddings: What is so wrong with believing a cop-claim just because there is a Gunsmith in the game, too?

Is it so hard to believe that there might be two investigative roles in the game?

Uh... yes. Cop + Gunsmith + Tracker + Night Watchman + MUP + Inventor + other secret roles is too much for me in a 12 player game. Even if it's not too much (some of those roles could get put on the same player, for example) I don't want to use role info to cloud my judgment in this game. You were my top suspect all the way back to nearly your first post, and I have no qualms about lynching you for your play rather than letting you live for your claim.

Besides, it's easy to see a scum recognize that they're going down and pull a "secret cop" claim out to try and halt their fall. It's even easier to see in a this game, where you're unlikely to get counterclaimed.

Also, since I believe you are probably going to vote me...

Unvote, Vote Wolframnhart

Self-preservation, etc. etc.

This doesn't help you.

And we do not know if any of those public roles have been given to scum or not. You act like all of the investigative roles are for the town.

Actually, it does help me.

[Geddingsworth]

And we do not know if any of those public roles have been given to scum or not. You act like all of the investigative roles are for the town.

Actually, it does help me.

Roles were distributed randomly, as were secret roles. Even the possibility of the town having a gunsmith, cop, tracker, and night watchman is too unbalancing for me to believe.

And I meant it isn't helping the negative view I (and apparently others) have of you.

[ZombieSlayer54]

And we do not know if any of those public roles have been given to scum or not. You act like all of the investigative roles are for the town.

Actually, it does help me.

Roles were distributed randomly, as were secret roles. Even the possibility of the town having a gunsmith, cop, tracker, and night watchman is too unbalancing for me to believe.

And I meant it isn't helping the negative view I (and apparently others) have of you.

Then maybe the set up is just unbalanced. Has this set up ever been tried before?

Oh, and I only get to use one action per night.

[ZombieSlayer54]

Also, just reread my role PM.

Apparently, my results are "not guaranteed to be reliable."

So, for all we know, I am an insane/paranoid/naive cop. That might make it a tad more balanced.

Also: Why is everyone believing Armlx's claim so readily?

[hasdgfas]

Also, just reread my role PM.

Apparently, my results are "not guaranteed to be reliable."

So, for all we know, I am an insane/paranoid/naive cop. That might make it a tad more balanced.

Also: Why is everyone believing Armlx's claim so readily?

I am now completely convinced that we should lynch ZS.

Also: it's because he's been much more townie than you.

[armlx]

ZS's last post is unreal convenient.

[pwnz]

I can walk on water.