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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:28 am

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What the fuck what the fuck what the fuck
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:29 am

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I have an idea

How about all the people who hate this new rule can strawman all the people who love it

And all the people who love this new rule can strawman all the people who hate it

And then we can all just take turns hurling absurd misrepresentations of the opposing view at one another for the next ten pages
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 226, Umlaut wrote:I have an idea

How about all the people who hate this new rule can strawman all the people who love it

And all the people who love this new rule can strawman all the people who hate it

And then we can all just take turns hurling absurd misrepresentations of the opposing view at one another for the next ten pages
Wait isnt that just playing mafia?
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am

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The word lynch is mafia, as Reck has said, has gotten to the point where it is a threat to the legitimacy of mafia. Whether people SHOULD or SHOULDN'T associate the word with racial violence is completely irrelevant honestly, the fact remains people do and mafia either needs to adapt or will suffer. That the Swastika actually means something mundane doesn't change the fact it also means something abominable to a large number of people This site is far past its heyday and the last the community needs is to drive players away and make current members embarrassed to talk about it in public or even play the game in public.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am

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In post 226, Umlaut wrote:I have an idea

How about all the people who hate this new rule can strawman all the people who love it

And all the people who love this new rule can strawman all the people who hate it

And then we can all just take turns hurling absurd misrepresentations of the opposing view at one another for the next ten pages
really I don't think you needed to post this, most people seem to have gotten to this already
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am

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Word policing days have came
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 227, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 226, Umlaut wrote:I have an idea

How about all the people who hate this new rule can strawman all the people who love it

And all the people who love this new rule can strawman all the people who hate it

And then we can all just take turns hurling absurd misrepresentations of the opposing view at one another for the next ten pages
Wait isnt that just playing mafia?
It's totally different, because in this case we stop after ten pages
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:32 am

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I'm not saying everyone has and don't want to insult the people who are legitimately arguing in good faith but I think a majority of this thread is willful, if subconscious, misunderstanding of the other side of the argument
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 220, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 216, Umlaut wrote:You are surprised that you can't predict my opinions on all aspects of culture war issues based on my believing that black lives matter?
I'm saying I'm surprised that somebody with a BLM avatar would consider using another term besides the one that became famous as a way to extrajudiciously kill black people to be a "concession" and therefore bad, yeah.
Did he say the "and therefore bad" part or are you just projecting your personal opinion that there are no good concessions onto him?

He can say "This isn't 'brave' because the timing demonstrates it is a transparent concession" while believing it is also a good concession to make. That seems the more reasonable, non-strawman way to reconcile this.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

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I like problematic for scum that makes me chuckle.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 226, Umlaut wrote:I have an idea

How about all the people who hate this new rule can strawman all the people who love it

And all the people who love this new rule can strawman all the people who hate it

And then we can all just take turns hurling absurd misrepresentations of the opposing view at one another for the next ten pages
In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
I've literally never heard the word "chink" used as anything other than to refer to a flaw in someone's armor. I've lived in six states in all corners of the US and been to >3 countries including circling the globe. When used in that context, no one has a problem with it either. No one, apparently, accept people like you.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:35 am

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One thing I will say, this thread is a true honeypot for people I have NEVER seen around the community before in my 17 years on this site who now suddenly are so very concerned with the culture of the site. Like, no offense, Elsa Jay, but I'm not sure your two years on the site qualified you to be its mouthpiece.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 237, Enter wrote:
In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
I've literally never heard the word "chink" used as anything other than to refer to a flaw in someone's armor. I've lived in six states in all corners of the US and been to >3 countries including circling the globe. When used in that context, no one has a problem with it either. No one, apparently, accept people like you.
This reply is so bad I'm quoting it so you can't get away with deleting it later.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:36 am

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Meh not much problem if the policing remains only to mod posts, but this better not become players policing each other for using their preferred term.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 237, Enter wrote:
In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
I've literally never heard the word "chink" used as anything other than to refer to a flaw in someone's armor. I've lived in six states in all corners of the US and been to >3 countries including circling the globe. When used in that context, no one has a problem with it either. No one, apparently, accept people like you.
I also hear "chink" more in reference to armor than anything else, but I have definitely heard it the other way.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 238, AniX wrote:One thing I will say, this thread is a true honeypot for people I have NEVER seen around the community before in my 17 years on this site who now suddenly are so very concerned with the culture of the site.
would say this comes from a divide between people who mostly play mafia and people who are mostly around the discussion side of the site / maybe lsgs + mish mash
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 239, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 237, Enter wrote:
In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
I've literally never heard the word "chink" used as anything other than to refer to a flaw in someone's armor. I've lived in six states in all corners of the US and been to >3 countries including circling the globe. When used in that context, no one has a problem with it either. No one, apparently, accept people like you.
This reply is so bad I'm quoting it so you can't get away with deleting it later.
Again, you're gonna have to help me find a way to care about your opinion.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:38 am

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I didn't read the five pages in the middle of this thread, but this seems like the perfect place for us to steal Large Social Game lingo and call it voting a player out. "X has been voted out Day 1, they were a Vanilla Townie." "With 9 alive, it's 5 to vote someone out."

People won't like it because it's Large Social Game lingo but they should :(
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 239, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 237, Enter wrote:
In post 232, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 223, Enter wrote: Most slurs I'm aware of don't have a legitimate utility within a language that has little to nothing to do with any sort of prejudicial or discriminatory views. I'm also not aware of a particularly large sum of slurs, however.
Ah yes, legitimate utility. That's why dropping the word "chink" all over the forum is fine.

No wait, the opposite of that.
I've literally never heard the word "chink" used as anything other than to refer to a flaw in someone's armor. I've lived in six states in all corners of the US and been to >3 countries including circling the globe. When used in that context, no one has a problem with it either. No one, apparently, accept people like you.
This reply is so bad I'm quoting it so you can't get away with deleting it later.
Shit I take it back.

I used the wrong "except."

My bad. I actually feel terrible now.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

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I can sympathize with Enter especially if something like "good morning" could easily get censored.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 244, D3f3nd3r wrote:I didn't read the five pages in the middle of this thread, but this seems like the perfect place for us to steal Large Social Game lingo and call it voting a player out. "X has been voted out Day 1, they were a Vanilla Townie." "With 9 alive, it's 5 to vote someone out."

People won't like it because it's Large Social Game lingo but they should :(
Very literally descriptive, has precedent, endorsed.
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Enter you just cancelled a game over this thread I'm actually a bit amused.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 235, Ythan wrote:I like problematic for scum that makes me chuckle.
Please help me come up with a new term for "kill" as well, I can't decide if there is something better than:
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