Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[Nocmen]

I'm not liking this night kill immunity stuff by The Fonz, paired with an extra vote and being still a bit suspicious from the plan going wrong.

Vote: The Fonz

[Twomz]

It kinda sounds like SFF is the cult recruiter... which would explain a lot >.>

[The Fonz]

I'm not liking this night kill immunity stuff by The Fonz, paired with an extra vote and being still a bit suspicious from the plan going wrong.

Vote: The Fonz

How does the plan going 'wrong' make me more suspicious? You'd think, given that Sir T has claimed to have tried to kill me, that he's either lying or my role is what I say it is (which makes no sense as scum). None of the actions that apparently 'went wrong' were performed by me. So how, in a million bloody years, does the plan going wrong implicate me?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

How does the plan going 'wrong' make me more suspicious? You'd think, given that Sir T has claimed to have tried to kill me, that he's either lying or my role is what I say it is (which makes no sense as scum)

... or, I got blocked? Or your role is only partially what you claim it to be, or you have NK immunity by other means (GF?)

Right now, it makes a lot of sense to me to lynch you off.

vote The Fonz

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I am at a loss...we have a cult..we still have a mafia rolling around..and 4 fucking people were killed last night...

can we have a vote count.

[Twomz]

Wait, I'm being stupid... SFF is def. not mafia and most likely not cult because I would most likely have been told and if armlx knew who was in the cult then he wouldn't have an investigative role target the members.

With 8 nights and 10 players left, only 1 of whom is a cultist, I'm guessing we have at most 4 cultists (including recruiter). There may or may not be a mafia left at this point... but I guess it's best to assume there is one, or that at least the cult is capable of killing instead of recruiting.

What would our best plan of action be at this point? It's hard to tell if any of the results thus far are still valid or not (the recruiter would probably be trying to get confirmed people who wouldn't die easily)

So, who could it be?

[Kison]

The recruiter? Best bet is to try to go after the folks who are not confirmed when trying to find the recruiter. Chances are the recruiter has been around all game. If not, then that wouldn't... make sense... And as such, he/she would be someone who hasn't been cleared yet. Although, this still depends on normal investigations working against cults. I don't know if that's the case, as I have very little cult game experience. Someone else chime in on that one.

[curiouskarmadog]

have we yet discussed what any of this means?

armlx (replacing somestrangeflea), Professor Goop, Town, killed Night 7
stark, Goop Mind, Cult, killed Night 7

I thought we had a zombie cult or something...but now that is doubtful..is it possible that armlx was somehow recruiting without knowing? I am just too confused.

[Kison]

That was my initial thought. His name doesn't match his alignment, though. It says he is Town... Would be a wild theory to assume he is a Town aligned player unknowingly creating an anti-town cult.

[curiouskarmadog]

wild indeed, but it is a designer game.

at any rate, I dont think that is what has happened, but there is some connection I think.

[mneme]

I think it's fairly clear:

Stark was "Goop Mind" -- a role linked to professor Goop. This was how he knew about Armlx's role.

He was also cult -- probably a recruit, but given the way his role gave him a (mostly) safe claim, maybe not so much.

Armlx was "Professor Goop" -- a doctor (presumably), and not cult.

We've got enough blocking roles that I very much doubt we have 4 cultists. But yeah, we need to look among the unconfirmed for a recruiter.

Fonz seems an obvious choice; I'm growing less and less convinced that he's town, frankly, and he doesn't have any town-useful abilities.

[curiouskarmadog]

I forgot stark claimed to be connected with Armlx...there is so much to this game.

ok, going to add my vote onto Fonz...but can someone give me a vote count please?

[The Fonz]

Sigh, why are people becoming more and more sure I'm not town, the more evidence arises pointing the other way?

That's four people saying they'll vote me. What's your reason? Do you still buy armlx/tss' positions? Do you think I'm pulling a 'flying pumpkin' gambit? Do you really think bulletproof multivoting Godfather is a viable role? Furthermore, given the difficulty scum will have in killing me and the additional power i can wield with my multivote, do you actually think there is any player in the entire game we need to confirm more than me?

[Mastermind of Sin]

First Vote Count of Day 8:

The Fonz - (Nocmen, Sir Tornado)

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

[Twomz]

I may or may not have electricity and/or interenet tomorrow.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I may or may not modkill you for that statement.

[Twomz]

Edouard's hitting land relatively close to where I live >.>

Silly name for a tropical storm/hurricane.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Fonz

[Belgarion]

vote fonz

[Twomz]

We don't even have a limb down >.< bunch of alarmist bastards trying to sell batteries and generators.

[SSF352]

Ummm, why are we voting Fonz over Kaliedoscope? Kaliedo claimed survivor, which is a neutral role, correct? I thought it was fairly standard to lynch neutrals, since they dont ally themselves with the town?

Mnene, if Fonz is town, he definately has pro-town abilites in his extra votes and immunites. Kaliedoscope no longer has an investigative ability, I would think he would be a slightly better lynch based on our current info.

Also, I'm thinking we cant take past investigations to heart all too much, since we've confirmed a cult that isnt players back from the dead.

Speaking of cult, I remember stark talking about three players losing ablities if he died. I'm thinking this could possibly explain Kaliedo's loss of ability, or why the plan went wrong. By the way, I really really think we cant afford to try to direct the towns actions again.

For know,

Vote: Kaliedoscope

, due to him becoming neutral.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Eh, yeah... it's really a good idea to waste a lynch you know that isn't going to end the game in a town win. The main reason why it was good to lynch ZONEACE was because we would get an extra lynch out of it anyway. I'd say it's better to get me vigged then instead of lynched, because roles are more screwed up with nightprotection then lynchprotection.

I also find it humorous why you'd think I would tell the truth if my intention wasn't to work with the town.

As of that,

Vote: The Fonz

[Kison]

Also, I'm thinking we cant take past investigations to heart all too much, since we've confirmed a cult that isnt players back from the dead.

They may not confirm someone as innocent, but they will help in finding the recruiter, theoretically.

Support a Fonz lynch as he happens to be one of the people who, as far as I know, has not been 'cleared'. Same goes for the other batch on the 'unconfirmed' list. I realize confirmed/unconfirmed do not necessarily guarantee innocence, but in terms of a possible recruiter...

Vote: The Fonz

[mneme]

That's a lynch.

Please -don't- kill Kali tonight -- it's not at all certain that we have the numbers to win without him, and killing a neutral doesn't really fit any side's goals at this point, particularly with three sides left.

[The Fonz]

Ugh. Screw you guys. Ever considered giving reasons?

There's absolutely no excuse for quicklynching like that. Take this one to the bank- at least half that wagon are scum.