SSW III: Game over

[cerebus3]

From the mod post 2:

Wolventon, the centre for werewolf activity in the realm.

The wolves have first taken control over the village

and then withheld it against a human strike team. Though there is something

with this town

, because killings and deaths have been reported around yet again, though there are, as of now, no details about the killings. However, the werewolves are once again prepared to

defend their acclaimed city

.

IT IS A VILLAGE. We are wolves, but this is our village.

Hehe, you are going off of the opening post, not your role PM. Besides, you are contradicted because it says city in one of your bolds. Is it a city or a village by your logic, or a town?

Vote count

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)
(3) CoheedCambria09 – farside22, Grimmy, Septia
(3) Porkens – Lord Gurgi, raider8169, donkeyz12212
(2) Lord Gurgi – Jebus, cerebus3
(1) raider8169 – Porkens
(1) donkeyz12212 – Cass
(1) cerebus3 – SpyreX

Not voting:

CoheedCambria09

Deadline:

Tuesday 5 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[cerebus3]

Soft claimed? I hard claimed, I am willing to hard claim to catch scum right now.

[SpyreX]

Like I said, we'll just see. Everyone read their PM's and see what it says. The votes will come accordingly, one way or another.

[SpyreX]

I'm not quoting my PM, but my PM says the word village. Village.

It is a village. A village. The village that we got in the first game and held in the second.

And, if we're arguing whats closer to what... which is a better comparison:

Village & City or Village & Wolf Pack.

No, you didn't hard claim, you just said, like what happened before. "Hay I'm a power role."

Good lord we did this once and we're going to do it again

[cerebus3]

No, I said I am not a power role, geese. I am a nilla townie, and I said that what Wall-E said indicates to me that even power roles have the exact same win condition written in their PM

[SpyreX]

And what I'm saying is that its not. I have no idea why you would have "wolf pack" instead of "village"

Unless you're trying to eliminate the wolves and assumed we're a pack, of course.

[cerebus3]

I'm not quoting my PM, but my PM says the word village. Village.

It is a village. A village. The village that we got in the first game and held in the second.

And, if we're arguing whats closer to what... which is a better comparison:

Village & City or Village & Wolf Pack.

No, you didn't hard claim, you just said, like what happened before. "Hay I'm a power role."

Good lord we did this once and we're going to do it again

So you are saying where Wall-E's says group, your PM says village?

And my role PM refers to the WOLFPACK multiple times and says we are fighting agains threats to the WOLF PACK.

[cerebus3]

And what I'm saying is that its not. I have no idea why you would have "wolf pack" instead of "village"

Unless you're trying to eliminate the wolves and assumed we're a pack, of course.

Seems like a really stupid gambit for a scum to pull, don't you think?

[Porkens]

Well, I think I see what's going on here, and I think it's retarted. Furthermore; is it really ok for us to be so specific about the exact words in our PMs? Aren't we obligated to paraphrase (use synonyms)? If so, how can we compare what yours says to what mine says, since we may both use different synonyms? I think it's a bad line of questioning to persue if, in fact, and as I interpret, we must paraphrase.

How about this: My win condition (paraphrased) states that:

after

each of the

adversaries

of

the

group of lunatic lycanthropes

are

destroyed

,

I

will be

victorious

.

I can see how Wall-E's paraphrase could be concidered a match to that or not.

[SpyreX]

Thats why I haven't said anything but the word village. Which, yes is the "group" business.

And yes, it DOES seem like a really stupid scum gambit, but the fact you voted for LG for the same thing confuses the hell out of me.

[cerebus3]

Well, I think I see what's going on here, and I think it's retarted. Furthermore; is it really ok for us to be so specific about the exact words in our PMs? Aren't we obligated to paraphrase (use synonyms)? If so, how can we compare what yours says to what mine says, since we may both use different synonyms? I think it's a bad line of questioning to persue if, in fact, and as I interpret, we must paraphrase.

How about this: My win condition (paraphrased) states that:

after

each of the

adversaries

of

the

group of lunatic lycanthropes

are

destroyed

,

I

will be

victorious

.

I can see how Wall-E's paraphrase could be concidered a match to that or not.

The fact that I haven't been modkilled tells me what I have been doing is fine.

[SpyreX]

I'm done with this twirly dance. Like I said, you've unequivocally said its wolf pack.

So, either the mod is messing with us or you're lying for whatever reason.

[cerebus3]

Thats why I haven't said anything but the word village. Which, yes is the "group" business.

And yes, it DOES seem like a really stupid scum gambit, but the fact you voted for LG for the same thing confuses the hell out of me.

I see what you are saying, but only if not all townies have the same win condition written.

If all pro-town win conditions are written the same then what Lord gurgi said makes no sense going off of what I have written. I can only guess that either not all win conditions are written the exact same (which I said that Wall-E's claim indicates against)

As you have so elequently shown, there are lots of reasons for scum to think that village is the word that should be there, but it isn't there in my PM.

[cerebus3]

Porkens, I think you can come out and say it. Does your win con use Wolf pack or village?

[farside22]

Well, I think I see what's going on here, and I think it's retarted. Furthermore; is it really ok for us to be so specific about the exact words in our PMs? Aren't we obligated to paraphrase (use synonyms)? If so, how can we compare what yours says to what mine says, since we may both use different synonyms? I think it's a bad line of questioning to persue if, in fact, and as I interpret, we must paraphrase.

How about this: My win condition (paraphrased) states that:

after

each of the

adversaries

of

the

group of lunatic lycanthropes

are

destroyed

,

I

will be

victorious

.

I can see how Wall-E's paraphrase could be concidered a match to that or not.

Lycanthropes? Umm as far as I know the villagers are the bad guys and the wolves are the good guys. Tell me I'm not losing it.

[raider8169]

Ok this just got really strange. Do you guys want everyone to come out and say their win condition? I think this may give out more information to the scum then we want.

[SpyreX]

Well, after the Wall-E business I figured it was dead.

Knowing the win condition shouldn't mean much - except for the fact we've either got a liar or different win conditions within the town now.

Regardless, I hope after today it wont come up again.

[farside22]

Porkens, I think you can come out and say it. Does your win con use Wolf pack or village?

Mine says wolf pack so I would like to have porkens elaborate more on this.

[SpyreX]

Well, awesome. We've either got scum with ball of steel or the mod is messing with us.

[Porkens]

after

each of the

adversaries

of

the

group of lunatic lycanthropes

are

destroyed

,

I

will be

victorious

.

Lycanthropes? Umm as far as I know the villagers are the bad guys and the wolves are the good guys. Tell me I'm not losing it.

The

ADVERSARIES OF

the lycanthropes are destroyed. Not the lycanthropes.

Fine; "werewolf pack" is the exact phrase used in my win condition that is used to express the "village" the "good guys" "my group" "blue" "not scum"

I'm done with this line of logic; it's retarted.

[farside22]

after

each of the

adversaries

of

the

group of lunatic lycanthropes

are

destroyed

,

I

will be

victorious

.

Lycanthropes? Umm as far as I know the villagers are the bad guys and the wolves are the good guys. Tell me I'm not losing it.

The

ADVERSARIES OF

the lycanthropes are destroyed. Not the lycanthropes.

Fine; "werewolf pack" is the exact phrase used in my win condition that is used to express the "village" the "good guys" "my group" "blue" "not scum"

I'm done with this line of logic; it's retarted.

sorry the way you phrased that was weird. Why did you say lunatic lycos?

[SpyreX]

Yea, there's somethin goofy goin on, but I dont think we're going to make progress on it.

Unvote. Vote:Raider.

Back to where we were.

[donkeyz12212]

Porken's win condition really confuses me...


Mine says "wolf pack" instead of lunatic adversaries or whatever.

[Porkens]

God protect you. Everyone go to dictionary.com and look up the words "paraphrase" and "verbatim".

[Jebus]

I'm not sure what to make of this at all. I'm inclining to vote for Raider, thanks to the omgus (wow, I just figured out what this meant) factor, though I'll stick with Gurgi.

Anyone wanna answer my question on majority, by the way?