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Titus was over 12 hours into a prod. I didn't want to wait around. I had the impression everyone was ready to move on.In post 499, PenguinPower wrote:You quickhammered yesterday because you wanted to move on. What are your reads atm?
Anyway, cakez is still a scum read for me. That hasn't changed in degree. I'm wondering about you, but I've got nothing to point to other than a strange feeling, but I think there had to be a busser on the TSE lynch, and that leaves you, candles and battle mage. I still don't think scum would bail on this game, but I could be wrong about that. Hiraki's comment about trusting Kerset seemed townie at the time, but looking at that TSE lynch VC, if there wasn't a busser on the TSE wagon, both scum have to be in {cakez, Hiraki, Kerset}. If there was a busser, that has to be in {Penguin, Battle Mage, Candles}.
The Day 2 lynch:
SirCakez(1) ~ Battle Mage(9)
Galron(2) ~ ManateeDude(14), SirCakez(28)
Titus(5) ~ Kerset(19), Five Candles(15), PenguinPower(20), Hiraki(8), Galron(22)
Hiraki(1) ~ Titus(6)
Gotta think.
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Galron why are you even SRing me again?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Your Hiraki 1v1 for starters. Then the following:In post 509, SirCakez wrote:Galron why are you even SRing me again?
In post 184, SirCakez wrote:
ok hear me outIn post 172, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Whatever Scum.
this actually seems kind of genuine frustration? PP was being kinda rude to TSE and I can see TSE (knowing his personality) ending that argument this way as town.In post 253, SirCakez wrote:
<3In post 248, Kerset wrote:Don't bully cakez
Well the alternatives suckIn post 251, Galron wrote:
There no longer is.In post 231, SirCakez wrote:Because I also think Hiraki is really scummy and there's a wagon there
Join me on HirakiIn post 314, Hiraki wrote:
Let's look at the flip side - what sucked about the TSE wagon that didn't suck about the Hiraki wagon?In post 311, SirCakez wrote:I don't see how saying the TSE wagon sucks construes a defense of him.
Currently, the TSE wagon is -
PenguinPower(49), enomis(9), Five Candles(43), Galron(12), ManateeDude(18) and TSE (if this is wrong, it's 12 here and I don't think the change will make a difference)
The Hiraki wagon was -
Hiraki(4) ~ Galron(8), Pink Ball(17), TrueSoulEnergy(18), ManateeDude(10)
So if we dive even deeper, the only two outliers on the TSE wagon are PP, enomis & Five Candles. So what was actually bad about the TSE wagon again? Enomis?In post 315, Hiraki wrote:I've responded to all of these points and even PP called you out on the defensiveness one. Giving vague reasons that no one can follow is not helping you figure out what my alignment is (something that I have been suspecting that you are not trying to do with your posts) and is certainly not convincing anyone else to join. Even though I agree with Manatee, as I am about to do so again, I at least understand where he's coming from.Spoiler: SirCakez quoting himself in 285
Why do you keep bringing this up? I already said why I said it. I thought he was scum then and I wanted to hammer but I also wanted to let the game breathe a little. What if he flips town (unlikely now but in the context of that post)? What are we supposed to do D2 with a 4 page D1? I've experienced it before - it's not pretty. Can you explain how that is unreasonable or are you going to continue to label it asIn post 295, ManateeDude wrote:
does this not look really weird in the context of scum!TSEIn post 113, Hiraki wrote:The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.weirdand pop it up every once in awhile?
I generally agree with 300 to 302. I need to think about that more. It conflicts with my current read of the game but hopefully that is the missing piece of the puzzle that I'm ignoring.
I'd also like to add that SirCakez's post isIn post 305, PenguinPower wrote:At the end, yes. But, it was the only major counterwagon prior. And, TSE had strong defenders in you and Midari, with Midari contradicting themselves and you not have a good defense.completelyabsurd when you piece together that SirCakez didn't even realize he was voting someone else other than me at the time.
In post 189, SirCakez wrote:
I thought I was on HirakiIn post 185, ManateeDude wrote:Cakez any particular reason you're still voting midari
VOTE: Hiraki
I got my mojo(jojo) back in this game babyIn post 312, Hiraki wrote:Mobile posting otherwise I'd go into it but I really also don't think I need toAnd of the people off the TSE wagon (cakez, hiraki, kerset), you have the highest scum equity.
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Running the numbers, Galron has to be scum. Let's bank this one!
VOTE: GalronShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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Been having some problems with my desktop, here's the flip:
Galron wasTown!
Night 3 deadline ends in (expired on 2020-06-26 19:45:00)!-
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Kersethas been killed, and was aligned with the!Town
Day 4 Starts.
Deadline: (expired on 2020-07-10 21:00:00)-
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I'm pretty much ready to lynch BM right now that was one of the scummiest hammers I've ever seenBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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*crickets*Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Battle Mage + Cakez/Hiraki is my solve. Probably Cakez for the way he tried to call TSE town in that post way back then.
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I'm on BM/Hiraki
I figure after BM flips scum tomorrow will be Hiraki/myself 1v1ingBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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ok I can't quite believe we are in the situation we are in right now. In LyLo, on the brink of defeat, in a game where 3 of us know who the scum are.
As we lose if I die today anyway, and I figure scum will have worked it out anyway, I'm a Merlin and had Thesoulenergy as confirmed scum (who was lynched before I even got here). I've been trying to avoid saying too much to give away who the other Merlins (or indeed myself) were, and likewise, they haven't given much away either which is why we are in a pretty shitty spot in terms of actually lynching scum.
Me claiming doesn't resolve much, as scum could obviously just cc me and win. But Enomis did crumb on Day 1 which is something. I've re-read and think the solve is SirCakez and PenguinPower, but I'm not certain.
In hindsight I should have been more active and artificially posted lots of reads to obfuscate things, but it felt kinda high-effort when my main job was done and I just needed to keep a low profile and try and pick things up from others. So apologies for not playing better.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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