Open 783: We Need a Fourth (Game over)
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That is exactly why you should have supported NK unvoting: if NK and I were scum together, that forces a random 50-50 at best for you. (Before this new plan came up of course)In post 46, A Fourth wrote:I can see you both as scum still. If you're both scum, your objective is to distance as much as possible and convince me this isn't a conspiracy. Going with contrasting plans doesn't mean you're unaligned.-
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Well, if the bot is town and you two were scum, Not Known 15 would be lynched and reveal me as town. Then, the bot votes you and I decide between you two.In post 55, Klick wrote:How's that? I don't think there's any way this game can end in a draw?
But even if you convince me to vote the bot, we would both die because the bot kills the first two voters. So with everyone dead, it's a draw.Hectic-
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I suppose that's one interpretation of this rule. I took this to mean that the Bot would do this Day 1. Even so, there would be 1 Town and 1 Scum alive at the point we lynched the Bot, leading to a Mafia win.
@Kerset: Does the above rule apply even on Day 2?-
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In post 61, Klick wrote:@Kerset: Does the above rule apply even on Day 2?It does-
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I am not the setup designer but sorry that i didn't check all possibilities correctly. There wasn't any appropriate way to fix this when game was ongoing. Any "clarification" would put scum on disadvantage, because NK was already playing towards present setup win conditions and he would be harmed if he would need to change his exposed strategy. They only way to correct this would be to change rules and reroll alignments.
If you all want a rematch then we can make such, this time with proper rules. If not then this game ends as a draw.-
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It SHOULD yes. Unfortunately, the clauses are missing Day 1 or In LYLO, whilst others dont.In post 70, Klick wrote:It should be clear what was intended by the setup!
And the deadline problem is also not resolved in the rules. The setup is far from perfect I am afraid. I won`t do a rematch right now before knowing what the revised rules are... especially about that deadline votes problem.-
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Feel free to give your suggestion. Mine would beIn post 71, Not Known 15 wrote:
It SHOULD yes. Unfortunately, the clauses are missing Day 1 or In LYLO, whilst others dont.In post 70, Klick wrote:It should be clear what was intended by the setup!
And the deadline problem is also not resolved in the rules. The setup is far from perfect I am afraid. I won`t do a rematch right now before knowing what the revised rules are... especially about that deadline votes problem.
Day 1,If the bot is lynched and is Town, the Bot will immediately shooteveryone expect person, who placed last vote on him.
Day 1,If the bot is lynched and is Mafia, the partner selects someone to reveal.
Here, if bot gets lynched with a single vote via deadline, everyone who haven't voted him will die. There is no way players find this optimal way to play. Also if bot gets lynched with a 2 votea via deadline then one person, who haven't voted him basically agrees to die, which is makes no sense for him either.-
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Yeah thats what I feared. Scum can still go for the lynch town bot thingy... by not voting and then quickly voting seconds before deadline, making this a speed contest(and in this case, if they feel they would lose otherwise(town partner of bot is convinced of conspiracy). I`d rather not even allow this happening.In post 73, Kerset wrote:Here, if bot gets lynched with a single vote via deadline, everyone who haven't voted him will die. There is no way players find this optimal way to play. Also if bot gets lynched with a 2 votea via deadline then one person, who haven't voted him basically agrees to die, which is makes no sense for him either.
Here`s a better idea:
Lynching rules change: If no lynch is achieved at deadline on Day 1, the team controlling the bot wins.
If no lynch is achieved at deadline on Day 2, Mafia wins.(these rules arent even part of the original setup, better to change them majorly...)
Day 1, If the bot is lynched and is Town, the Bot will immediately shoot everyone expect the person who hammered it.
Day 1, If the bot is lynched and is Mafia, the partner selects someone to reveal.
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