Your definition of reasoning is pretty loose.Crazy wrote:At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.
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Reasoning: Oman's post #155armlx wrote:
Your definition of reasoning is pretty loose.Crazy wrote:At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.
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Oh dear me I forgot the alivnz95 morphed into skitzer. What an odd thing to happen.
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Oman 2 vote: (Goatrevolt, Armlx)
Goatrevolt 1 vote: (Oman)
Netran 2 vote: (skitzer, Crazy)
Crazy 3 votes: (OGML, Netran, Rage)
Not voting
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Deadline August 17th 2:00pm PSTSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Crazy wrote:At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.
Um...how could I give him credit for reasoning that didn't come until over 100 posts after the fact? Seriously, wow....Crazy wrote:Reasoning: Oman's post #155
First of all, that is his reasoning. Second of all, I think your defense of Oman is ridiculous.Crazy wrote:Non-reasoning: OMG YOU SAID WHY YOU WERE VOTING A PERSON! SCUM!
Play by play:
Goatrevolt: Oman's logic for thinking me scum is wrong.
Crazy: But if that was Oman's real logic then it would make him look like scum. Therefore it can't be his real logic.
Goatrevolt: Um...
Crazy: Come on Oman, tell them what your real reasons were.
Long Intermission:
Oman: Here are my reasons. They are the same as my original reasons, but I've given slightly more explanation to them.
Crazy: There you go. I can't believe you didn't see that Goat. You give Oman no credit.-
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Fixed for you.GR wrote:Goatrevolt: Oman's logic for thinking me scum is wrong.
Crazy: But if that was Oman's real logic then it would make him look likescuma complete idiot that doesn't know how to play mafia. Therefore it can't be his real logic.
Goatrevolt: Um...
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Lol? Wow, way to go for insults over intellect.Crazy wrote:
Fixed for you.GR wrote:Goatrevolt: Oman's logic for thinking me scum is wrong.
Crazy: But if that was Oman's real logic then it would make him look likescuma complete idiot that doesn't know how to play mafia. Therefore it can't be his real logic.
Goatrevolt: Um...
Crazy: Come on Oman, tell them what your real reasons were.
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Anyway, I can finally do what I've wanted to do for a while and that isUnvotewith a reason: basically, his play isn't anything like Cog City, where we were mafia together.It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts-
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That wasn't an insult, Oman. I was saying that if your logic was as GR was interpreting it, it would make you look more like a complete idiot that doesn't know how to play mafia rather than scum. Obviously, that doesn't describe you, so I assumed your reasoning had more depth than it originally looked like.Oman wrote:Lol? Wow, way to go for insults over intellect.-
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I was wondering if that was going to happen.Oman wrote:Anyway, I can finally do what I've wanted to do for a while and that isUnvotewith a reason: basically, his play isn't anything like Cog City, where we were mafia together.
Anyway, I'm still somewhat suspicious of Oman, but right now I simply think Rage has a better shot of being scum, and thus I will
Unvote, Vote Rage
I'm still anxiously awaiting skitzer's analysis, and I still think there is a fairly decent chance that he's scum based solely on meta arguments against alvinz.-
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This is the alternative to Oman being scum. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by voting him.Crazy: But if that was Oman's real logic then it would make him look like scum a complete idiot that doesn't know how to play mafia. Therefore it can't be his real logic.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Was that a pun or a meta comment?skitzer wrote:
This is definitely a Crazy thing.armlx wrote:
Your definition of reasoning is pretty loose.Crazy wrote:At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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meta comment. Except I must not tell you where. Must keep mouth shut.
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I think I will never vote anyone based only (I know you have other reasons) on this because I see it as an implicit declaration (and I use them too).Goatrevolt wrote:
The issue is that this is a summary of events and not actual reasonsRage wrote:Expressed equal suspicion of both Oman and GR, but decided to vote for GR and later took it off when proven incorrect. Then he FoSed GR and took that off too. He did not consider other suspicions when pressuring GR, and didn't see GR's side until he had already taken a vote and FoS off of him. I want to know what Crazy thinks about why Goatrevolt is suspicious of Oman.whyhe thinks Crazy is scum. In other words, he put Crazy at 3 votes (L-2), but doesn't actually say anything to suggest that Crazy is scum. Bandwagon votes like this with weak or nonexistent reasoning definitely catch my eye.
If it had happened that Goatrevolt "gave him credit for", he would have probably been accused of over-overreaction to Oman.Crazy wrote:At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.-
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Rage! I wanted to see his response to my points against him.farside22 wrote:Rage has asked to be replaced. I will do as requested. Carry on
Maybe he's trying the tried and true "replacement defense" where he simply replaces out at the first sign of pressure and hopes it dissipates.
I wouldn't necessarily consider it much of an implicit declaration. Let's see what he's said here.Netran wrote:I think I will never vote anyone based only (I know you have other reasons) on this because I see it as an implicit declaration (and I use them too).
1. "Expressed equal suspicion of both Oman and GR, but decided to vote for GR and later took it off when proven incorrect." Lacking is any reasoning why these actions suggest Crazy is scum. Are scum the only ones who unvote upon being proven wrong? Are scum the ones who express equal suspicion of two players but end up voting for one?
2. "Then he FoSed GR and took that off too." Missing is any explanation why the FoS and take off is scummy.
3. "He did not consider other suspicions when pressuring GR, and didn't see GR's side until he had already taken a vote and FoS off of him." Is failure to take into account other suspicions a scum tell? Is failure to see someone's side a scum tell? You can argue that they were by suggesting that Crazy's behavior in these matters suggests a mindset of scum, but Rage did nothing of the sort.
My point is that he basically provided merely a summary of the events without any real indication or even implicit declarations of why those actions were scummy. This reeks to me of scum joining a bandwagon and faking reasons to be on it.
I mean, I could go through armlx's posts and say, "armlx first chose not to take a side in the GR/Oman debate. He later questioned Oman. Eventually he decided to vote for Oman despite originally not taking any sides" and then vote for armlx, but what am I really saying? I'm not showing how his actions are scummy, I'm merely just summarizing what he's done in a manner to suggest that I have legitimate reasons for that vote.-
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The only way to prove this is if the player is playing actively elsewhere on the site to the extent 1 game isn't an issue, and even then its fuzzy.Maybe he's trying the tried and true "replacement defense" where he simply replaces out at the first sign of pressure and hopes it dissipates.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Eww, do people actually do that? I think that if you get a replacement in a game, and then later your side wins, you can't count that as a win.Goatrevolt wrote:Maybe he's trying the tried and true "replacement defense" where he simply replaces out at the first sign of pressure and hopes it dissipates.-
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Didn't answer my question as to how you feel. Do you think I'm scum, scummy, worth pressuring, what? A vote is a lot of things.armlx wrote:
Well I'm voting you, and OMGL is bordering on lurking.Question: Armlx, how do you feel on OGML and myself.It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts-
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