Open 81 - The New C9 - Game Over

[Korts]

Hm. Now I've had a good think about it, it may be buddying up, you're right. I'm not comfortable myself going by mostly gut, which this basically is, aside from IAUN protecting you.

unvote

By pointing out that IAUN jumped on me for calling you out, I meant to indicate that it looked to me like IAUN felt for some reason that he needed to protect you. It doesn't look so much like that now.

The Muerrto-thing strife spotted is pretty nice, though.

vote: Muerrto

[armlx]

Hm. Now I've had a good think about it, it may be buddying up, you're right. I'm not comfortable myself going by mostly gut, which this basically is, aside from IAUN protecting you.

ORLY? Not comfortable going by gut? Your vote D1 was 100% gut, until you hopped off to vote BA.

Vote KortS

[Korts]

shrug

I didn't say I was confortable doing it.

[roflcopter]

vote: muerrto

iron man didn't talk to me at all last night. i'm a sad panda

[forbiddanlight]

iron man didn't talk to me at all last night. i'm a sad panda

Traumatized mason . (check out worst role ideas thread I think )

[Korts]

Also, armlx, I hope you're not starting with the capitalized S at the end again.

[armlx]

Also, armlx, I hope you're not starting with the capitalized S at the end again.

Oh, sorry. I blame Cephrir.

[Muerrto]

You're kidding? IAUN probably said GS was a good target because GS was gunning for him so hard. The problem is, while GS was RIGHT his reasons were horrible so it didn't really matter.

SC, thank you not killing me with your vig action, but now you guys wanna waste a lynch on me?

Where's the case? IAUN didn't say 'don't vig Vamp' he said 'someone else is also good' and you all assume instead of redirecting to a target he'd rather have killed he was protecting me?

Also, can we see the unanimous decision that I was a good vig target?

I'm not sure how the hell to respond to this shoddy reasoning from some players I consider good. I'm dissappointed, and no that's not a plea to emotion.

What I'M gonna do is re-read IAUN's posts and see what he had to say about people as other people should be.

Oh, and

FoS: Fonz

for even thinking GS and IAUN were distancing. GS was ridiculously, stupidly plowing against IAUN. Distancing? C'mon.

[Korts]

for even thinking GS and IAUN were distancing. GS was ridiculously, stupidly plowing against IAUN. Distancing? C'mon.

But that's

exactly

why it's so plausible they were distancing. After all, who'd follow on IAUN's wagon based on GS's ridiculous, stupid case?

[strife220]

Also, can we see the unanimous decision that I was a good vig target?

Vamp was originally to be lynched. About 5 people stated explicitly that Vamp was a good vig target, and nobody disagreed, then everyone went to voting elsewhere under the assumption that Vamp would be handled outside of votes.

SC, thank you not killing me with your vig action, but now you guys wanna waste a lynch on me?

You should know better than to make useless comments like this.

Where's the case? IAUN didn't say 'don't vig Vamp' he said 'someone else is also good' and you all assume instead of redirecting to a target he'd rather have killed he was protecting me?

Scum wouldn't be so direct to explicitly try and protect their buddy - it'd bring them too much heat when the other flips scum. What scum would do is try to undermine the town's lynch choice by presenting alternatives, despite Vamp already being an ideal and pre-determined vig target. Attacking a third party when your scum-buddy is under heavy suspicion is a nice, solid scumtell.

[forbiddanlight]

Tin case doesn't work out with BA as town. Nevermind.

Vote Muerrto

for the same reasons I've been wanting to lynch his ass all game.

[Korts]

I'm not sure how the hell to respond to this shoddy reasoning from some players I consider good. I'm dissappointed, and no that's not a plea to emotion.

Um, yes it is?

[ting =)]

I need to reread certain people, I'll post when I'm done.

I honestly don't think mue is scum.

[Iron Man]

FoS: Fonz

for even thinking GS and IAUN were distancing. GS was ridiculously, stupidly plowing against IAUN. Distancing? C'mon.

Although unlikely, I could see this as distancing. If IAUN really wanted to get GS lynched, then he would try to make a better case than what you are describing.

Think about it this way. IAUN knows GS is his scum partner. So, he runs a quick fake-case he devised in five minutes or so. He knows everyone will view it as trash and disregard it, but he also know that through this, he can fully disconnect himelf from GS in the chance that one of them is lynched/NK'ed.

Unlikely, probably. Impossible, no.

[armlx]

Um, yes it is?

Its buddying actually.

[Rogueben]

JordanA24 is going away for 2 weeks and requested temporary replacement so Battle Mage will be replacing him until he gets back.

[StrangerCoug]

I'll go ahead and

Un-FoS: Korts

as I think he's defended the case I felt I had on him.

[Korts]

Um, what? The gut feeling that you cited in your last post, was that your case against me?

[StrangerCoug]

Um, what? The gut feeling that you cited in your last post, was that your case against me?

Exactly it. I wasn't sure what made me think that at first, but now I'm pretty sure given your response.

[The Fonz]

for even thinking GS and IAUN were distancing. GS was ridiculously, stupidly plowing against IAUN. Distancing? C'mon.

But that's

exactly

why it's so plausible they were distancing. After all, who'd follow on IAUN's wagon based on GS's ridiculous, stupid case?

This. Also, the fact that if Greasy really were convinced himself, he wouldn't have dropped it without any comment whatsoever, as if it had been a random vote.

[Korts]

for even thinking GS and IAUN were distancing. GS was ridiculously, stupidly plowing against IAUN. Distancing? C'mon.

But that's

exactly

why it's so plausible they were distancing. After all, who'd follow on IAUN's wagon based on GS's ridiculous, stupid case?

This. Also, the fact that if Greasy really were convinced himself, he wouldn't have dropped it without any comment whatsoever, as if it had been a random vote.

I don't remember that. Which post?

[ting =)]

He did. See my last, last post.

What are you trying to do Fonz?

[The Fonz]

Find scum. You?

[ting =)]

You know that wasn't my question.

Post 794. I pointed out before that that GS

did

justify his switch. You either didn't read or you're deliberately lying to push the GS case. What are you trying to do?

[The Fonz]

Post 794. I pointed out before that that GS

did

justify his switch. You either didn't read or you're deliberately lying to push the GS case. What are you trying to do?

Yes, and your question was scummy and leading. And frankly, the liar is you. You have never explained the following, a full re-read of all your posts reveal only the following references to GS, and post 794 was made by me.

525: SC, don't, you know, vig me. GS' joke does not sound funny to me, but it is a joke.

Fonz and Armlx start going for GS. The whole, 'iamusername never said..' 'gs never said..' is a semantics argument much like when armlx and korts got heated up over the whole, 'only' thing.

Incidentally, just because you say this is merely semantics, does not make it so. Greasy claimed that IAAUN was repeatedly misrepresenting him, but was not able to provide a single example.

Whew. Done. I think GS was being stubborn, not scum, and I think the arguments on him are nitpicking.

Again, the manner in which he dropped his vote does not indicate stubbornness to me. After all, don't stubborn people tend to stick to their arguments through hell and high water?

@armlx.
Sorry, it was Fonz and Korts who were going for GS, not you and Fonz.

And then the one where you try to pretend the whole 'case on one, but not the other' thing is semantics.

How does this include any explanation of the dropping of the vote on someone he's voted

five times?

The constant revoting indicates a strong belief IAAUN is scum. That he switches to someone else without even feeling the need to justify moving off the person he's been hounding for most of the day indicates that the attacks on IAAUN were not genuine.

I've seen plenty of occasions where someone's been convinced of another player's scumminess- where it's come from a town player, I've never seen the poster in question not at least try to explain why they have dropped the suspicion they held with such certainty.
So, it's plain for all to see that you NEVER pointed out that Greasy Spot justified his actions, it's also the case that he did, in fact, only give reasons for switching off IAAUN

after

I specifically pressed him on the matter. So who's the liar again?

I have below the post in which he unvoted IAAUN. Care to point out the reasoning he gives for switching from Iam?

Actually, if some people would be willing to vote armlx, that'd be all kinds of great.

I will

vote: armix

. This is standard armix scum play.