In post 228, gobbledygook wrote: In post 223, AGar wrote:I strongly disagree with this, but I would love to hear why. Because I find it completely devoid of town motivation to speculate about.
I think that town are much more likely to openly discuss that sort of thing. If Gypyx were scum, I envision he would be more tactful and inconspicuous with dropping hints to the traitor. If Gypyx is scum, he is either the traitor or on the two person side without the traitor. If he is the traitor, he immediately would point towards teammates who reacted with the knowledge that a traitor did exist. Likewise, if he flip two man scum, we would not know that there is a traitor normally, but now we would be looking for a traitor because why would a flipped scum talk about that unless there was a traitor?
I see both of those scenarios to be less likely than a townie who eagerly spouted an accusation thinking he caught the team red-handed.
Also for those of who you have taken an extended hiatus, please refresh your understanding of what a Normal traitor is. It is much more bollocks than it was. Principle differences being: (1) it cannot be recruited (read: if mafia shoot the traitor, it will die), and (2) if the two man scum group dies the traitor gets automatically endgamed.
signed,
someone who played as a scum traitor and was nightkilled by the main group
I'm very aware of what a Normal traitor is.
So let me break this down:
Based on Newbie 1993 and Newbie 2001 (both completed), Gypyx is new to MS, but not new to mafia. He displayed some solid grasp in both games as to what he was doing. Even in this game, he's spoken with a fairly confident opinion on meta. A wrong one (meta's trash yo), but a confident one. So knowledge of a traitor isn't a stretch to say it's out there.
People who come in from other sites with experience usually are able to, for lack of a better turn of phrase, dumb it up on some things. I know I sure as fuck did in my first game and I ended up winning with a pretty ballsy gambit.
So, a normal traitor is going to try and avoid taking the bullet while also trying to avoid getting lynched, right? Mid-profile shit. Juuuust scummy enough to not be a NK target because you're still a plausible option to be lynched but also juuuust doing enough to skate by because there's scummier fucks that need to die. I speak from old, but actual, experience of this.
Gypyx's game so far has done 3 things:
- In claiming he is a new player (full stop, per his post), he gives himself outs on certain faux pas. (less likely to be lynched)
- In throwing a random traitor accusation out there, he does draw some suspicion to himself, avoiding NK bait.
- In being the first person to mention a traitor, unprompted, he does the best job one possibly could to try and convey they're the traitor to the remaining mafiosos.
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