I'd like for Deimos to actually have an opportunity to say something before he's lynched within the span of a few hours.
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Sure.In post 3597, humaneatingmonkey wrote:GC, let's buddy. Do you accept this friend request?
I'm not reading any more mafia tonight though."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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and here i could have self hammered and washed my hands of this.
#regretsShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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okay but please come back and reply to me when you can kthanksbyeIn post 3601, Green Crayons wrote:
Sure.In post 3597, humaneatingmonkey wrote:GC, let's buddy. Do you accept this friend request?
I'm not reading any more mafia tonight though.-
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Target Wagon Deimos27(2)Firebringer (3479), Isis (3550) Firebringer(2)Looker (3322), Elements (3532) Isis(1)humaneatingmonkey (3410) Not Voting(2)Deimos27, Green Crayons (3600)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. The Day 7 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-29 17:42:59).
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we only have 3 days.
what if we just decide to end the gme by not lynching.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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this is still a thingIn post 1, northsidegal wrote:No lynching for three days in a row will result in a draw.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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We only no lynched once"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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yeah we just have to do it 2 more timesShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Playing to a draw isn't playing to your win condition. I'm a little irked by the presence of the feature in this game but I would rather lose then draw"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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u realize u defeat ur own argument about playing to win condition by saying u would rather lose than not lose by draw. Right?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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In post 3602, Firebringer wrote:and here i could have self hammered and washed my hands of this.
#regrets
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Ew on the no lynch tie option.In post 3610, Firebringer wrote:u realize u defeat ur own argument about playing to win condition by saying u would rather lose than not lose by draw. Right?
Ew x100 on this post."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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If you draw, you did not win. If you lose, you did not win.
Draw means "both sides lose".
It doesn't mean "both sides win"."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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a draw isn't a loseIn post 3614, Isis wrote:If you draw, you did not win. If you lose, you did not win.
Draw means "both sides lose".
It doesn't mean "both sides win".Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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a draw isn't a winI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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a draw is a draw.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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what a fucking concept.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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my mind is blownIn post 3617, Firebringer wrote:a draw is a draw.I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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a draw is the least satisfying endingI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Assuming without deciding there's anything desirable about a draw, the ninth rule of the site says you're not allowed to pursue it since it disables your win condition.
Mafia is "guess what win condition everyone is playing to" so not playing to it makes it as fundamentally unplayable as Mario brothers with no jump button"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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i don't feel like arguing the nuances of a rule such as what "playing to win condition" means. I used to prosecute players for Playing against win condition when I was a moderator so many moons ago.
but ill just summarize what "play to win condition" has always meant for those who actually punished players for not following the rule. We always looked to see if the person was intentionally trying to lose the game. A person who played sub-optimally doesn't count. A person playing to draw doesn't count.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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