Battle Mage wrote:Korts wrote:BM, the only difference between you and Crazy is that Crazy threw his potato
before
armlx suggested his plan. There's a distinction.
Personally, i dislike the use of plans in games with a different mechanic. More often than not, they are either concieved by scum, or followed by scum, and dissenters (predominantly town) end up getting scapegoated. It allows scum to ride on Armlx's coat-tails, assuming he is town himself. Brings back bad memories... :'(
BM
This post pretty much sums up my thoughts at the time. But because you feel the need to bring up a concept which really irritates me again, i feel like another rant!
First and foremost, why the hell would i want to take
orders
from a guy who is as
unconfirmed
as the rest of ours, and sets out with the objective of
leading the town
?
Anyone can come up with a half-baked scheme. Does that mean suddenly we are all duty-bound to do it? I don't think so buddy!
I think it's pretty obvious why his plan is flawed. Even if it wasn't, the whole idea of mafia is that we have our own opinions. You seem to think that it's a scumtell to not do everything you are told. It's ridiculous, beyond any words. I mean, ffs dude. Do you really think that me not doing what a guy who could just as easily be scum said, is scummy?!
Order is not necessarily bad. But, as i pointed out in the quoted post, it isn't easy to attain in a game of this nature. Certainly, i'm not putting all my eggs in the basket of the majority. Remember, the majority can very easily be pushed around by scum. If we all work as individuals, whilst still taking into account each other's opinions, we will fare alot better.
I'm surprised Armlx suggested something as ill-thought out as this....actually, that's a lie.
It's not even a scumtell that he'd want to lead the town and boss everyone around. But one thing is for damn certain. After playing Ultimatum Mafia, you can bet your ass i'm not investing in any group strategies or half-witted plans concocted by somebody who could be scum themselves. Nor am i going to let other people, again partly comprised of Mafia, decide who i combust in a potatoey mess.
Thats where i stand. At the time, i wasnt being all that serious. It seemed pretty ridiculous that anybody would actually take Armlx's plan seriously, and rather than go on an angry rant, i think i summed up my disapproval pretty succinctly.
Now, Crazy, we come to you. I'm astounded at the irony of YOU being the one to kiss Armlx's ass, when in fact, aside from me, you are the person who i'd say most openly declared their disillusionment with Armlx's plan. Remember that time you threw a potato at me for lols? Yeh, you're a fine one to be giving lectures on systems for using potatoes, when you were the individual Armlx was trying to tackle! Are you seriously trying to tell me that when you lobbed a potato at me for pretty much no reason whatsoever, in the back of your mind, you were thinking "shit, i really wish we had an organised bueraucracy set up in order to co-ordinate our potato throwing. Ah, screw it. HAVE 'AT BM". roflmao!
FoS: Crazy
for outright hypocrisy and buddying up.
I'm not going to condemn Armlx for being arrogant and self-obsessed. That's a personal thing, and not really a scumtell. But i am suspicious of the way he actually seems to believe that everybody who doesn't follow his lead is scum. Or more the fact that he is trying to get those individuals lynched on really shoddy reasoning.
I'm pretty riled up now. So...anyone else wanna have a crack?
BM