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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:06 pm

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TSS makes good points. People who oppose plans as he has are usually just scum.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:35 pm

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If you have a potato you are obliged to make a case against someone and then throw it no? I feel like where gonna be here all day discussing meta and WIFOM while nothing is actually happening.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:05 am

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the silent speaker wrote: P.S. Korts:
Skruffs, I don't see it how BM confirmed that the potatoes are in pro-town hands. Could you elaborate?
Not sure if this got answered, but I think it was this:
BM wrote:I'd rather see the potatoes KEPT in the hands of those protown players, until we have some idea of where we are throwing them.
Implying that the hands the potatoes were then in were pro-town.
Not that there's any real point arguing over this, you've taken my comment out of context. The original scenario posed (i believe by Skruffs or possibly Armlx) was that the potatoes were in the hands of the protown players and that we should be throwing them around. My retort was that i'd rather see the protown players with the potatoes keep them until they have some idea about what they want to do with them.

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:14 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
the silent speaker wrote: P.S. Korts:
Skruffs, I don't see it how BM confirmed that the potatoes are in pro-town hands. Could you elaborate?
Not sure if this got answered, but I think it was this:
BM wrote:I'd rather see the potatoes KEPT in the hands of those protown players, until we have some idea of where we are throwing them.
Implying that the hands the potatoes were then in were pro-town.
Not that there's any real point arguing over this, you've taken my comment out of context. The original scenario posed (i believe by Skruffs or possibly Armlx) was that the potatoes were in the hands of the protown players and that we should be throwing them around. My retort was that i'd rather see the protown players with the potatoes keep them until they have some idea about what they want to do with them.

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Hm, yes. It was me who said that
if
the potatoes were all in pro-town hands, then we wouldn't have any chance at catching scum so long as the potatoes weren't moving.

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The case on kuribo is interesting, but far from convincing. Kuribo isn't the only one who hasn't contributed much aside from speculation.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:24 am

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M4yhem wrote: The Silent Speaker is obviously scum buddies with Kuribo. Nice distancing, genius.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:27 am

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And TSS, I'm not trying to stop the town from reaching a consensus. (Strawman, much?) What I'm saying is that we're all essentially vigs passing around a gun that could kill anyone at any time--- which leaves us no way of knowing exactly how or when we're going to kill someone off.

Your case is very good, TSS. For me to poop on!
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:43 am

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BM, who have you suspected this game that wasn't a straight up OMGUS? I see 1 vote on q21 and thats it.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:47 am

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We might not know today how potatos work but I think we will have some idea tomorrow. For instance, if we get another russet potato, assuming the eighth throw kills until proven otherwise is a good idea.

Also, I really think the potatos should be moving around. By giving someone a potato, you're forcing them to take a stand in a way that voting just doesn't accomplish.

I'm not all that convinced by TSS's case on Kuribo. The fact is, most of the town has been mainly speculating.

I think what we need is a bandwagon, that usually gets things moving.

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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:50 am

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I'm not all that convinced by TSS's case on Kuribo. The fact is, most of the town has been mainly speculating.
Have they been speculating by just saying things to buck attempts at order?
I think what we need is a bandwagon, that usually gets things moving.
That's sure useful....
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:13 am

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Can we toss TSS a potato and see where it goes?
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:09 am

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kuribo wrote:
But there's nothing that says the potatoes will be the same every day, or that the triggers will be every day.

So, again, the speculation is pointless.
So, what's your plan then? Sit and wait?
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:28 am

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Rally Vincent wrote:
kuribo wrote:
But there's nothing that says the potatoes will be the same every day, or that the triggers will be every day.

So, again, the speculation is pointless.
So, what's your plan then? Sit and wait?
I didn't say that. What I did say is that we should be wary of any plan that involves tossing explosives to people hoping to blow those particular people up--- as I said before, we're also possibly throwing them a weapon.

Nevermind the fact that if you throw the potatoes to the scummiest candidate, what happens if they don't explode on him? Is he expected to keep them in his hands for all of eternity? Naturally, scum or town, he's not going to just hold them and say, "Well, guess it's my time!" He's gonna throw it at someone.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:35 am

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armlx wrote:BM, who have you suspected this game that wasn't a straight up OMGUS? I see 1 vote on q21 and thats it.
It cant be helped if the scum wish to attack me. Null tell, but i appreciate your concern. :)

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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:39 am

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armlx wrote:
I'm not all that convinced by TSS's case on Kuribo. The fact is, most of the town has been mainly speculating.
Have they been speculating by just saying things to buck attempts at order?
Well, I think i've been as guilty of that as Kuribo, and yet he's being pushed harder than me. Why is that?

Ftr, i feel M4yhem is playing to his town meta. DGB is playing to her scum meta. Gut feelings ftw!

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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:48 am

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I think that the problem is that the town is used to being able to take quick, decisive action, and is trying to come up with a strategy to make this as much like a regular mafia game as possible.

My whole point is that alot of the stuff (LET'S THR0W T0 TEH SKUMMZ0RZ!!!!!!) doesn't hold. We need to come up with a better idea.

For example, I think we're on a good track keeping track of who throws what to who--- scum won't be likely to risk killing off their partners, for instance. Once we know more of the triggers, this may even get easier.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:49 am

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With Skruffs being dead and town: Would anyone else be so kind and share what he meant with BM's scum meta? Or is everyone clueless on that?

BM: Same question: What is DGB's scum meta? Or is it really just gut?

Other than that.. *hop*
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:53 am

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TDC wrote:With Skruffs being dead and town: Would anyone else be so kind and share what he meant with BM's scum meta? Or is everyone clueless on that?
I think dear Skruffikins was overthinking a little bit. :P
In the past Skruffs has been known to declare saying 'lol' as a scumtell, so who really knows!
TDC wrote: BM: Same question: What is DGB's scum meta? Or is it really just gut?

Other than that.. *hop*
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It's not gut. But i cant reference it for obv reasons.

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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:57 am

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armlx wrote: Have they been speculating by just saying things to buck attempts at order?
I guess not but 'buck attempts at order' is kind of in the eye of the beholder. I mean, hardly anyone is following the voting plan, for instance.
That's sure useful....
:) I'm glad you agree.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:59 am

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I'm kind of lost about why we're wagoning on TSS. His case on Kuribo is decent.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:10 am

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Crazy wrote:I'm kind of lost about why we're wagoning on TSS. His case on Kuribo is decent.
If by "decent," you mean "over-exaggerating everything kuribo says to make him look scummy after he quietly made a vague comment about kuribo being scum," then, yes, it is "decent."
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:27 am

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The points are valid. They're not particularly strong, but they're valid nonetheless.

I don't get the case against TSS, though.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:36 am

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kuribo wrote:
I didn't say that. What I did say is that we should be wary of any plan that involves tossing explosives to people hoping to blow those particular people up--- as I said before, we're also possibly throwing them a weapon.

Nevermind the fact that if you throw the potatoes to the scummiest candidate, what happens if they don't explode on him? Is he expected to keep them in his hands for all of eternity? Naturally, scum or town, he's not going to just hold them and say, "Well, guess it's my time!" He's gonna throw it at someone.
kuribo wrote:For example, I think we're on a good track keeping track of who throws what to who--- scum won't be likely to risk killing off their partners, for instance. Once we know more of the triggers, this may even get easier.
First you're telling us that we shouldn't throw the potatoes because they may not explode and it could mean handing scum over a weapon. It's just that there won't be a throwing pattern if nobody throws the potatoes. You're telling us that we need to make better plans, but that's about all. Again - what is a
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:45 am

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I guess not but 'buck attempts at order' is kind of in the eye of the beholder. I mean, hardly anyone is following the voting plan, for instance.
Thats because a vocal few keep disrupting it.

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Vote Kuribo, FOS BM
while I'm at it. There was another person that belongs here too (maybe Riceball?) but I don't remember who.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:47 am

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Another one who doesn't use the fakevote system? that'd be me, I guess.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:58 am

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Korts wrote:Another one who doesn't use the fakevote system? that'd be me, I guess.
Well, you should do that.
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