I don't get the "lot of pressure" to vote. At best the only thing ever said was by me when i said:pwnz wrote:Put that all together and we are left with one Mafia vote on charter at the very beginning of the game, which could honestly mean anything.
Alignment is still a very difficult thing to deduce, but I feel like I am under a lot of pressure to put a vote on someone. I'm going with the only thing that I could squeeze out of the voting history and vote charter. It may not be the best reason ever to vote someone, but at least I have something to put behind my vote other then, "he is the scummiest poster". Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion.
And i really don't think anyone said much after that. So it seems strange that your name was barely mentioned and you say you were put under pressure. Styro came out after I mentioned him too, and he tried to make a case, but your case seems very flimsy just based off of voting history, and yes I realize that you said it was a weak case but its better then "Oh he's just scummy," but i don't see it being strong enough for a vote. I do however believe that because you are grasping at straws and trying to in my mind vote almost anyone you could get something against, however weak, that you deserve a:here are a couple players like pwnz and styro that haven't really done much yet that have me looking their way, granted its never really a true scum tell to be quiet, but I think in this game being quiet is not a good thing.
wolframnhart wrote:here are a couple players like pwnz and styro that haven't really done much yet that have me looking their way, granted its never really a true scum tell to be quiet, but I think in this game being quiet is not a good thing.
cerebus3 wrote:okey, so how do you think we SHOULD act pwnz? I know the game is moving fast, but you have yet to comment on anybody's alignment yet.
The fact of the matter is that your vote on me is in and of itself the exact same type of vote that I placed on charter, quote:hasdgfas wrote:pwnz, what are you talking about? Everyone's guesses as to people's alignments are their own. You might find something that the rest of us hadn't that finds someone as much more scummy than we thought them before. Plus, that's mafia, finding alignments.
wolframnhart wrote:...grasping at straws and trying to in my mind vote almost anyone you could get something against, however weak...
:goodposting:hasdgfas wrote:The onus of proof is on you, Empking. You can't expect us all to see what you see just by looking through his posts. You have to show us what you see.Empking wrote:Go to the place where it say all users - click on his name anfd press go.armlx wrote:Then do so.I can prove it, just not the way you want me to prove it.
^^I still advocate not planning them out in thread.
There is also no reason not to use your night ability tonight.
Ok so here you say that you feel like you are under alot of pressure to vote.pwnz wrote:Put that all together and we are left with one Mafia vote on charter at the very beginning of the game, which could honestly mean anything.
Alignment is still a very difficult thing to deduce, but I feel like I am under a lot of pressure to put a vote on someone. I'm going with the only thing that I could squeeze out of the voting history and vote charter. It may not be the best reason ever to vote someone, but at least I have something to put behind my vote other then, "he is the scummiest poster". Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion.
Then you list four quotes, the one I say, then cerb (who id dead) and has, neither of which are really pressuring you for a vote, they are just asking for your opinion on peoples alignment. You pick voting history as a basis for your vote, then you say that you aren't accusing charter of scummy behavior, yet you vote for charter and say that "Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion," so therefore you must be accusing charter of at least being scummy in that way or else your vote isn't anything.pwnz wrote:Post for wolframnhart:
I was pretty sure that someone was bound to jump on me for such a flimsy vote, but you still have to realize that you are voting for me based on a case that I stated myself was very weak. I figured at the very least that it was time to stop being Switzerland and actually vote for someone. I never accused charter of scummy behavior nor did I encourage others to follow my vote, I was just simply making an observation. Thats all.
As far as people asking me for my opinion on the game:
wolframnhart wrote:here are a couple players like pwnz and styro that haven't really done much yet that have me looking their way, granted its never really a true scum tell to be quiet, but I think in this game being quiet is not a good thing.cerebus3 wrote:okey, so how do you think we SHOULD act pwnz? I know the game is moving fast, but you have yet to comment on anybody's alignment yet.The fact of the matter is that your vote on me is in and of itself the exact same type of vote that I placed on charter, quote:hasdgfas wrote:pwnz, what are you talking about? Everyone's guesses as to people's alignments are their own. You might find something that the rest of us hadn't that finds someone as much more scummy than we thought them before. Plus, that's mafia, finding alignments.
wolframnhart wrote:...grasping at straws and trying to in my mind vote almost anyone you could get something against, however weak...
Put that all together and we are left with one Mafia vote on charter at the very beginning of the game, which could honestly mean anything.
Your case on charter self contradicts within 1 paragraph. Nice.Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion.
wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.armlx wrote:Put that all together and we are left with one Mafia vote on charter at the very beginning of the game, which could honestly mean anything.Your case on charter self contradicts within 1 paragraph. Nice.Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion.
Hmm, I have my own thoughts, but I want wolf to defend himself before I say anything.armlx wrote:He first states that there is no way to reason out the vote, then ascribes a meaning to it.wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.
What does wolf have to defend against?hasdgfas wrote:Hmm, I have my own thoughts, but I want wolf to defend himself before I say anything.armlx wrote:He first states that there is no way to reason out the vote, then ascribes a meaning to it.wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.
You saying it contradicts. I want wolf to respond to it.armlx wrote:What does wolf have to defend against?hasdgfas wrote:Hmm, I have my own thoughts, but I want wolf to defend himself before I say anything.armlx wrote:He first states that there is no way to reason out the vote, then ascribes a meaning to it.wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.
armlx wrote:That was in response to a comment made by pwnz actually, but ok.You saying it contradicts. I want wolf to respond to it.
pwnz then. Why did I think it was wolf? Wolf quoted that post right before I did, and I didn't use player tags. I even used the Quote Selected function on the quoted text in wolf's post.hasdgfas wrote:armlx wrote:That was in response to a comment made by pwnz actually, but ok.You saying it contradicts. I want wolf to respond to it.
